Ok, but the doctors were shot as soon as they got to the wounded guy. Idk what else they should/could have done.

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When one side is attempting to justify murdering unarmed people and the people treating them?

No, I don’t.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

It's okay to say that sniping doctors and people who pose no threat other than to a hallowed line is bad form.

It doesn't make you anti-semitic, despite what MANY here think.

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Today's doctrine is to suppress the gunfire or neutralize the threat then treat the casualty.

In this scenario they would have to make life saving treatments at the point of wounding since you can't suppress sniper fire with rocks.

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I think the rest of the world was much happier about this when it was Arabs and Jews killing each other by the bushel. Now that its so one-sided everyone is kind of upset that the opportunity of culling both population is being lost. No parity is BAD FOR THE LEAGUE. The Palestinians need more cap room and higher draft picks.

Wow. So fucked up. Fuck Israel. Maybe they don't have a right to exist.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

There is nothing they could have done better and on top of that the rules of warfare mean medical personnel shouldn't be engaged

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If you wanted a real discussion you wouldn't make up things like this.

The closest I came to justifying anything is pointing out that there can be valid reasons to shoot an unarmed person.

You then cherry picked a response to ltg that was not about this specific instance but Israel in general.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Did I miss the part where Mike is a veteran?

You seem to be doing everything you can to avoid saying Israeli soldiers shooting unarmed people and doctors is wrong.

There's no need for the verbal gymnastics.

If you think they were right to shoot unarmed people and doctors, just say so.

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Human rights violation if the UN would bother to do their job. Targeting of civilians (that is what they were no matter what the apologists attempt to tell you) is also a human rights violation. What is the chance that any of the perpetrators will be court martialed?

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Yeah somewhere over the years you did.

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Elections have consequences.

I honestly don't know if they were right but given your posts in the first few pages it looks like you are mad that someone could at least try and understand why this extreme response may have happened.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I would like to inquire about these valid reasons to shoot unarmed persons.

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Not mad. Not even surprised.

Probably more sad than anything else.

If there is a case where shooting an unarmed person or doctor is right and justified, please share it with me.

I allow for there being an instance I haven't thought of.

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If the reports are true that this was an attempt for Hamas protesters to get through and head to cities to riot and commit other acts of violence then stopping it there would be justified.

I'm not ready to accept that as fact though.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Thank you.

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Zero. The US has already told the UN we will block any investigation.

Apparently you never heard of Pallywood. The Palestinians create fake videos such as this all the time and idiots like you eat it up

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Pallywood!



I've heard it all now.

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It's an old term for these staged videos the Palestinians produce

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

One thing that I think is overlooked when it comes to denouncing Israel as a "neocolonialist ethnostate" or whatever is that since the founding of Israel, Ashkenazi (Central European, Russian) Jews have been far outnumbered by Mizrahi (Iraqi, Yemeni, Syrian, etc) Jews because Arab states were almost entirely purged of their native Jewish populations following the creation of Israel. (Also, they're considered to be a little, ah, earthier than their European counterparts, and, like the Arabs, fuck more.) So yes, still coming from someplace else, but from someplace a lot closer than Germany or Poland, so it's unfair to act as if Israel is still a colony of Europe and not truly part of the Middle East. Just as there have always been Jews living in the Holy Land, they used to live in lots of places throughout the Middle East. Now they don't. But no one wants to send the Mizrahim back to Baghdad. They just want them to disappear somehow.

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So we've gone from "they feared for their life" to "fake news".

It's okay to criticize Israel sometimes.

They aren't infallible.

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Yeah. It is okay. But all you've done in this thread is go "hurr durr guess you're an antisemite." What sort of good-faith participation do you think you're spurring on here?

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I'm not saying Gaza was faked, but that video of the "doctor" certainly is.

Also, that video isn't from Gaza even (it's clearly the West Bank). They prey on people like IMU who are morons and fall for it. What can you say? He's an easy mark.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I fail to see how the claims of "anti-Semitism" for simple criticism is all that different than people who are ready to label someone "racist" at a moment's notice.

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Hey bud. Jbi11s here. Who wants the Jews to disappear? Surely, if you read this entire thread (lord help you if you have) there hasn't been anyone saying that.

Maybe your just typing Jewish observations. Idk really. Cool story tho.

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Hurr durr that was to save JORR some posts.

Hurr durr dem A-rabs get what's coming to them.

Hurr durr please

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It's funny how the Jews took in their own while the Arabs left their own to rot for propaganda purposes. Such nice people.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?

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