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What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

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What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

None of this would be a problem if the Palestinians just recognized that Israel has a right to exist. If they did that, then they could accept the peace offers they were granted, but they refuse because they cannot accept any settlement which cements recognition of Israel.

It's hard for me to feel sorry for the Palestinians when they have spent the last 80 years (since 1936's Peel Commission) refusing to take a state on the land.

Yesterday's attempt to break the border fence was about their belief that all of the land is theirs. They don't accept a single Jew remaining on the land.

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What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

More halal shitposting!

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What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

None of this would be a problem if the Palestinians just recognized that Israel has a right to exist. If they did that, then they could accept the peace offers they were granted, but they refuse because they cannot accept any settlement which cements recognition of Israel.


I don't disagree.

Failure of previous leadership to accept peaceful solutions doesn't excuse Israeli misdeeds now though.

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What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?

Hey bud. Jbi11s here again. Your friendly neighborhood goyim.

I think Israel is going to be ok.

Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

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Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

Look, it's an elaborate misunderstanding! When we talk about driving the Jews to the sea, we mean a tour bus for a beach outing!

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If I only was allowed 4 hours to shitpost on CFMB I'd be throwing rocks as well.

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I fail to see how the claims of "anti-Semitism" for simple criticism is all that different than people who are ready to label someone "racist" at a moment's notice.



I call people racist that say racist things. I will use myself as a reference since i've referred to 2 people as that who have said racist things on here. Race was invoked and used in a derogatory fashion in each instance.

In the case of Anti Semitism criticism of Israel is used to levy the charge. At no point have i ever made a derogatory statement against Jewish people. That is the difference.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

More halal shitposting!


Look at the rational discussion by board "intellectual" Curious Hair!

Jews good.

Arabs bad.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

None of this would be a problem if the Palestinians just recognized that Israel has a right to exist. If they did that, then they could accept the peace offers they were granted, but they refuse because they cannot accept any settlement which cements recognition of Israel.


I don't disagree.

Failure of previous leadership to accept peaceful solutions doesn't excuse Israeli misdeeds now though.
The Palestinians seem intent on repeating the mistakes of the past. They have never taken the opportunity to do away with their rejectionist leaders and only seem to further empower them.

I'd feel empathy for the Palestinians if they made moves to reject Hamas and move towards moderate leaders. At this point, it's hard for that to happen as much of Palestinian education is literal indoctrination. Their programming for 5 year olds on Palestinian state TV is a mouse (dressed somewhat like Mickey) telling them to kill the Jews.

Compare that to the programming for Israeli children, which is Rechov Sumsum where they teach children both Hebrew and Arabic.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Curious Hair wrote:
What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

None of this would be a problem if the Palestinians just recognized that Israel has a right to exist. If they did that, then they could accept the peace offers they were granted, but they refuse because they cannot accept any settlement which cements recognition of Israel.

It's hard for me to feel sorry for the Palestinians when they have spent the last 80 years (since 1936's Peel Commission) refusing to take a state on the land.

Yesterday's attempt to break the border fence was about their belief that all of the land is theirs. They don't accept a single Jew remaining on the land.



If they are hell bent on Killing Jews then why are they the only ones dead in this particular skirmish?

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If I only was allowed 4 hours to shitpost on CFMB I'd be throwing rocks as well.

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I guess that is what happens when Hamas has full control of the territory and redirects aid and civilian goods for military uses. Concrete sent to build new hospitals is used on tunnels. The electricity is out because Hamas has not paid the bill (that bill is paid to the PA in Ramallah so it is Abbas and Fatah who cut off the power, not Israel)

They have no cooking gas because they literally set fire to the main gas lines for heating/cooking fuel. They are unemployed because Hamas has once again redirected goods meant for civilians to their own projects.

In all of this you also ignore the fact that Gaza shares a border with Egypt. Israel has no control over the Rafah crossing. To blame Israel for the situation in Gaza rather than Hamas is simply ignorant and dishonest. I guess the lesson here is, don't put a terrorist group in charge of your government.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

Look, it's an elaborate misunderstanding! When we talk about driving the Jews to the sea, we mean a tour bus for a beach outing!

Curious Hair, my guy.

You seem to not be able to hold a decent convo about this without reverting to the land of snark.

MANY around the world feel great sympathy for Palestine today. Does that mean they want to get rid of Israel? I don't think so.

Sure some extremists do, but most observers prolly don't.

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long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

None of this would be a problem if the Palestinians just recognized that Israel has a right to exist. If they did that, then they could accept the peace offers they were granted, but they refuse because they cannot accept any settlement which cements recognition of Israel.

It's hard for me to feel sorry for the Palestinians when they have spent the last 80 years (since 1936's Peel Commission) refusing to take a state on the land.

Yesterday's attempt to break the border fence was about their belief that all of the land is theirs. They don't accept a single Jew remaining on the land.



If they are hell bent on Killing Jews then why are they the only ones dead in this particular skirmish?

Because the IDF shot them before they could breach the fence. Would you prefer if we let them kill a few Jews first? I'm sure that would make you hard.

Perhaps it's not a good idea to publicize the "march" and make your intent to kill Jews known. If you do that, the people on the other side are going to be pretty sure not to let you carry out their plan.

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I feel bad for them too. Too many people died yesterday. But this could have been avoided. To the extent that any of this is ever going to be settled in a manner remotely beneficial to the Arab population, it will have to be through loftier means than charging at snipers with a handful of gravel like an idiot.

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Jbi11s wrote:
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Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

Look, it's an elaborate misunderstanding! When we talk about driving the Jews to the sea, we mean a tour bus for a beach outing!

Curious Hair, my guy.

You seem to not be able to hold a decent convo about this without reverting to the land of snark.

MANY around the world feel great sympathy for Palestine today. Does that mean they want to get rid of Israel? I don't think so.

Sure some extremists do, but most observers prolly don't.



What is readily apparent is that it is Anti Semitic for anyone to feel empathy for Palestinians.

As Ogie keeps stating he has none for them. Anyone that does is Anti Semitic. If you work from this premise then you will be fine.

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Jbi11s wrote:
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Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

Look, it's an elaborate misunderstanding! When we talk about driving the Jews to the sea, we mean a tour bus for a beach outing!

Curious Hair, my guy.

You seem to not be able to hold a decent convo about this without reverting to the land of snark.

MANY around the world feel great sympathy for Palestine today. Does that mean they want to get rid of Israel? I don't think so.

Sure some extremists do, but most observers prolly don't.

Who is in control in Palestine? You act like it's just a few bad guys making everyone look bad. Hamas literally is in power there by choice of the people.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Curious Hair wrote:
What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

None of this would be a problem if the Palestinians just recognized that Israel has a right to exist. If they did that, then they could accept the peace offers they were granted, but they refuse because they cannot accept any settlement which cements recognition of Israel.

It's hard for me to feel sorry for the Palestinians when they have spent the last 80 years (since 1936's Peel Commission) refusing to take a state on the land.

Yesterday's attempt to break the border fence was about their belief that all of the land is theirs. They don't accept a single Jew remaining on the land.



If they are hell bent on Killing Jews then why are they the only ones dead in this particular skirmish?

Because the IDF shot them before they could breach the fence. Would you prefer if we let them kill a few Jews first? I'm sure that would make you hard.

Perhaps it's not a good idea to publicize the "march" and make your intent to kill Jews known. If you do that, the people on the other side are going to be pretty sure not to let you carry out their plan.



With what were they planning to kill them with? Megaphones?

Why did the Doctors have to die? Merely collateral damage.

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Curious Hair wrote:
I feel bad for them too. Too many people died yesterday. But this could have been avoided. To the extent that any of this is ever going to be settled in a manner remotely beneficial to the Arab population, it will have to be through loftier means than charging at snipers with a handful of gravel like an idiot.

I don't think the rock throwers were the only ones getting sniped.

The press area took a tear gas assault from Israeli drones.

A doctor was shot, and a paramedic killed while they were trying to treat people. See below:

http://lfpress.com/news/local-news/london-doctor-shot-amid-israel-palestinian-clashes

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long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
What does "from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" mean to you?


You're right.

Kill all Arabs.

Israel is morally righteous.

None of this would be a problem if the Palestinians just recognized that Israel has a right to exist. If they did that, then they could accept the peace offers they were granted, but they refuse because they cannot accept any settlement which cements recognition of Israel.

It's hard for me to feel sorry for the Palestinians when they have spent the last 80 years (since 1936's Peel Commission) refusing to take a state on the land.

Yesterday's attempt to break the border fence was about their belief that all of the land is theirs. They don't accept a single Jew remaining on the land.



If they are hell bent on Killing Jews then why are they the only ones dead in this particular skirmish?

Because the IDF shot them before they could breach the fence. Would you prefer if we let them kill a few Jews first? I'm sure that would make you hard.

Perhaps it's not a good idea to publicize the "march" and make your intent to kill Jews known. If you do that, the people on the other side are going to be pretty sure not to let you carry out their plan.



With what were they planning to kill them with? Megaphones?

Why did the Doctors have to die? Merely collateral damage.


Molotovs, IEDs, small arms, knives, etc.

When Hamas used social media the day before to instruct them to attack places like Nahal Oz, you had to expect the IDF wouldn't let them so much as breach the fence. You had tens of thousands of Palestinians ready to charge in. Had they breached, they would've reached Nahal Oz and sacked it well before you could've contained the breakthrough.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
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Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

Look, it's an elaborate misunderstanding! When we talk about driving the Jews to the sea, we mean a tour bus for a beach outing!

Curious Hair, my guy.

You seem to not be able to hold a decent convo about this without reverting to the land of snark.

MANY around the world feel great sympathy for Palestine today. Does that mean they want to get rid of Israel? I don't think so.

Sure some extremists do, but most observers prolly don't.

Who is in control in Palestine? You act like it's just a few bad guys making everyone look bad. Hamas literally is in power there by choice of the people.



If you research the history of Israel you will discover that many of their leaders rose to power through terrorist means.

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I feel bad for them too. Too many people died yesterday. But this could have been avoided. To the extent that any of this is ever going to be settled in a manner remotely beneficial to the Arab population, it will have to be through loftier means than charging at snipers with a handful of gravel like an idiot.

I don't think the rock throwers were the only ones getting sniped.

The press area took a tear gas assault from Israeli drones.

A doctor was shot, and a paramedic killed while they were trying to treat people. See below:

http://lfpress.com/news/local-news/london-doctor-shot-amid-israel-palestinian-clashes


Fake news.

Pallywood put that together to turn the world against the Jews.

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So you don't want a real discussion then.

When one side is attempting to justify murdering unarmed people and the people treating them?

No, I don’t.
If you wanted a real discussion you wouldn't make up things like this.

The closest I came to justifying anything is pointing out that there can be valid reasons to shoot an unarmed person.

You then cherry picked a response to ltg that was not about this specific instance but Israel in general.

I would like to inquire about these valid reasons to shoot unarmed persons.


How do you know they are unarmed. They may be wearing a suicide vest. Wouldn't be the first time they did something like that. Hell,they where using kite bombs against the J E Ws,if that isn't blurring the line .

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Jbi11s wrote:
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Jbi11s wrote:
Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

Look, it's an elaborate misunderstanding! When we talk about driving the Jews to the sea, we mean a tour bus for a beach outing!

Curious Hair, my guy.

You seem to not be able to hold a decent convo about this without reverting to the land of snark.

MANY around the world feel great sympathy for Palestine today. Does that mean they want to get rid of Israel? I don't think so.

Sure some extremists do, but most observers prolly don't.



What is readily apparent is that it is Anti Semitic for anyone to feel empathy for Palestinians.

As Ogie keeps stating he has none for them. Anyone that does is Anti Semitic. If you work from this premise then you will be fine.


Ogie is too far gone.

I have a feeling he would gladly hand over his AR15 to the Israeli govt if they asked.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So you don't want a real discussion then.

When one side is attempting to justify murdering unarmed people and the people treating them?

No, I don’t.
If you wanted a real discussion you wouldn't make up things like this.

The closest I came to justifying anything is pointing out that there can be valid reasons to shoot an unarmed person.

You then cherry picked a response to ltg that was not about this specific instance but Israel in general.

I would like to inquire about these valid reasons to shoot unarmed persons.


How do you know they are unarmed. They may be wearing a suicide vest. Wouldn't be the first time they did something like that. Hell,they where using kite bombs against the J E Ws,if that isn't blurring the line .


Well when the score is 62 dead, 1300 shot, and 2200 injured for one side.

And 0, 0, 0 for the other side I think it's safe to assume who was better armed. Or armed at all.

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I like Oogie. Good dude.

He obviously has intense feelings on this and I expect him to react differently than I would because of his lineage. Or my perception of his lineage.

The stuff from CH and JORR where any criticism of Israeli actions is labeled anti-Semitic is puzzling.

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Because someone feels empathy for Palestine doesn't mean they want all the Jews eradicated. It also doesn't mean they subscribe to that catchy slogan in your quote.

Look, it's an elaborate misunderstanding! When we talk about driving the Jews to the sea, we mean a tour bus for a beach outing!

Curious Hair, my guy.

You seem to not be able to hold a decent convo about this without reverting to the land of snark.

MANY around the world feel great sympathy for Palestine today. Does that mean they want to get rid of Israel? I don't think so.

Sure some extremists do, but most observers prolly don't.



What is readily apparent is that it is Anti Semitic for anyone to feel empathy for Palestinians.

As Ogie keeps stating he has none for them. Anyone that does is Anti Semitic. If you work from this premise then you will be fine.


Ogie is too far gone.

I have a feeling he would gladly hand over his AR15 to the Israeli govt if they asked.

Who needs an AR15 when you are issued a Galil for your IDF service.

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Jbi11s wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So you don't want a real discussion then.

When one side is attempting to justify murdering unarmed people and the people treating them?

No, I don’t.
If you wanted a real discussion you wouldn't make up things like this.

The closest I came to justifying anything is pointing out that there can be valid reasons to shoot an unarmed person.

You then cherry picked a response to ltg that was not about this specific instance but Israel in general.

I would like to inquire about these valid reasons to shoot unarmed persons.


How do you know they are unarmed. They may be wearing a suicide vest. Wouldn't be the first time they did something like that. Hell,they where using kite bombs against the J E Ws,if that isn't blurring the line .


Well when the score is 62 dead, 1300 shot, and 2200 injured for one side.

And 0, 0, 0 for the other side I think it's safe to assume who was better armed. Or armed at all.

Hamas has quite an arsenal and believe me, if they had managed to breach the fence, they would've brought it forward.

Hamas's plan would've been to use the "protesters" to breach the wall and rush in. After they had done so and chaos ensued, Hamas would've had their soldiers follow and carry out attacks and kidnappings. It was going to be a win-win for Hamas. Either they were going to get the PR win (which they got because people fall for it) or they were going to get to carry out direct infantry assaults on several Israeli towns. Even if they suffered heavy casualties, it would be a win for them.

With that in mind, the IDF very clearly wasn't going to let them breach. I will say this, I was stationed on the Gaza border for a week in the fall of 2012. I can tell you that things can go to shit very quickly there. We never were directed to engage as the ceasefire came before ground troops were engaged, but we got to see first hand the arsenal Hamas has. That arsenal was ready to bear yesterday, but they were denied their chance because the IDF held the line. It exacted a high human toll, but sadly that was the least bad option granted there.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
I like Oogie. Good dude.

He obviously has intense feelings on this and I expect him to react differently than I would because of his lineage. Or my perception of his lineage.

The stuff from CH and JORR where any criticism of Israeli actions is labeled anti-Semitic is puzzling.



He may be an authority on this stuff given his experiences but he is far too biased to have credibility.

In his eyes Palestinians are inherently evil (I'm inferring) Thats dangerous.

Tyranny and oppression are also fraudulent concerns of his as well. Only things that can be taken from these exchanges.

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