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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:41 am 
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Caratini, Addy get it done?

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This whole Machado thing is quite funny. Everything from he is like Almora's cousin to we can just get him for Ian Happ because we are the Cubs. Also, no way he would test the market on the Cubs.

If you get him good luck. But please tap the brakes.

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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This whole Machado thing is quite funny. Everything from he is like Almora's cousin to we can just get him for Ian Happ because we are the Cubs. Also, no way he would test the market on the Cubs.

If you get him good luck. But please tap the brakes.

I would challenge you to find any actual reporter saying that he is Almora's cousin. They played together growing up and are still great friends.

I see your straw men are crossing topics now.


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Caratini, Addy get it done?



This is laughable.

I am pretty sure the O's want arms, I don't think the Cubs have any in the minors.


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This whole Machado thing is quite funny. Everything from he is like Almora's cousin to we can just get him for Ian Happ because we are the Cubs. Also, no way he would test the market on the Cubs.

If you get him good luck. But please tap the brakes.

I would challenge you to find any actual reporter saying that he is Almora's cousin. They played together growing up and are still great friends.

I see your straw men are crossing topics now.


Challenge accepted Chief. It was on the weekly show he does with Mac and Parkins and the source was impeccable as it was himself. He described themselves as being as close as cousins and very like family. So legally and genetically not cousins but I am ok with the statement.

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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Addy, Caratini and someone like Jose Albertos might get it done.

I'd pay it, and probably more. Orioles have a lot of OF and pitching prospects, but are sort of barren in the infield. I'd consider Addy and Happ also, but I doubt Theo wants to give up two cost controlled position players for a possible rental.

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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I wonder if the Sox offer of Abreu and Avi is still on the table.


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I wonder if the Sox offer of Abreu and Avi is still on the table.

Why would the Orioles do that?

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I wonder if the Sox offer of Abreu and Avi is still on the table.


That would work and the "cousins" could live in the same city anyway.

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I wonder if the Sox offer of Abreu and Avi is still on the table.


That would work and the "cousins" could live in the same city anyway.

Talk about tapping the brakes. That deal makes no sense for the Orioles.

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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IMU wrote:
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I wonder if the Sox offer of Abreu and Avi is still on the table.

Why would the Orioles do that?

Well obviously they didn’t but that plus two minor leaguers was the offer.


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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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I assume you forgot to mention that the White Sox must also have offered to take Chris Davis and half of his salary in that deal?
And unless those two minor leaguers were Blake Rutherford and Dane Dunning or similar... not sure a $7M overrated OF soon to be a free agent and a 1B no matter how good that will be a FA that same year are going to get it done for a rebuilding franchise.

I hope that wasn't a serious offer.

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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probably the perfect opportunity to rid yourself of Schwarber to a team that might actually find him attractive but I think any deal would center around Russell. It seems logical from all sides.

I don't know how you price the guy. I cannot believe he will sign without entering FA. While his ability is worth almost anything you could give up, its just half a year of service.

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IMU wrote:
I assume you forgot to mention that the White Sox must also have offered to take Chris Davis and half of his salary in that deal?
And unless those two minor leaguers were Blake Rutherford and Dane Dunning or similar... not sure a $7M overrated OF soon to be a free agent and a 1B no matter how good that will be a FA that same year are going to get it done for a rebuilding franchise.

I hope that wasn't a serious offer.

Bout as serious as the OP I would imagine.

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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IMU wrote:
I assume you forgot to mention that the White Sox must also have offered to take Chris Davis and half of his salary in that deal?
And unless those two minor leaguers were Blake Rutherford and Dane Dunning or similar... not sure a $7M overrated OF soon to be a free agent and a 1B no matter how good that will be a FA that same year are going to get it done for a rebuilding franchise.

I hope that wasn't a serious offer.

I believe it was called an “aggressive” offer.


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IMU wrote:
I assume you forgot to mention that the White Sox must also have offered to take Chris Davis and half of his salary in that deal?
And unless those two minor leaguers were Blake Rutherford and Dane Dunning or similar... not sure a $7M overrated OF soon to be a free agent and a 1B no matter how good that will be a FA that same year are going to get it done for a rebuilding franchise.

I hope that wasn't a serious offer.

I believe it was called an “aggressive” offer.

Is there a link confirming the offer or just a guy of yours?

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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probably the perfect opportunity to rid yourself of Schwarber to a team that might actually find him attractive but I think any deal would center around Russell. It seems logical from all sides.

I don't know how you price the guy. I cannot believe he will sign without entering FA. While his ability is worth almost anything you could give up, its just half a year of service.

Agreed. That said, if I thought a high-quality bat was all this outfit needed (as far as 'big' concerns go), I think I'm fine trading Schwarber & Russell and play poker with next year's negotiations.

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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
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FavreFan wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
IMU wrote:
I assume you forgot to mention that the White Sox must also have offered to take Chris Davis and half of his salary in that deal?
And unless those two minor leaguers were Blake Rutherford and Dane Dunning or similar... not sure a $7M overrated OF soon to be a free agent and a 1B no matter how good that will be a FA that same year are going to get it done for a rebuilding franchise.

I hope that wasn't a serious offer.

I believe it was called an “aggressive” offer.

Is there a link confirming the offer or just a guy of yours?

That’s what I was told.


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 Post subject: Re: Machado pricetag
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:30 am 
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This whole Machado thing is quite funny. Everything from he is like Almora's cousin to we can just get him for Ian Happ because we are the Cubs. Also, no way he would test the market on the Cubs.

If you get him good luck. But please tap the brakes.

I would challenge you to find any actual reporter saying that he is Almora's cousin. They played together growing up and are still great friends.

I see your straw men are crossing topics now.


Challenge accepted Chief. It was on the weekly show he does with Mac and Parkins and the source was impeccable as it was himself. He described themselves as being as close as cousins and very like family. So legally and genetically not cousins but I am ok with the statement.

"As close as cousin". Thanks


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312player wrote:
Caratini, Addy get it done?

No.

But then again, Almora and Machado were once siamese twins, per pittmike


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312player wrote:
Caratini, Addy get it done?

No.

But then again, Almora and Machado were once siamese twins, per pittmike


Don't feed into him. Thanks

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pittmike wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Caratini, Addy get it done?

No.

But then again, Almora and Machado were once siamese twins, per pittmike


Don't feed into him. Thanks

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This whole Machado thing is quite funny. Everything from he is like Almora's cousin to we can just get him for Ian Happ because we are the Cubs. Also, no way he would test the market on the Cubs.

If you get him good luck. But please tap the brakes.

I would challenge you to find any actual reporter saying that he is Almora's cousin. They played together growing up and are still great friends.

I see your straw men are crossing topics now.


Challenge accepted Chief. It was on the weekly show he does with Mac and Parkins and the source was impeccable as it was himself. He described themselves as being as close as cousins and very like family. So legally and genetically not cousins but I am ok with the statement.



The irony is that if Machado comes to the Cubs, Almora is likely a piece that is going to other way.

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whoever pays this guy $300MM is gonna regret it.

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whoever pays this guy $300MM is gonna regret it.


Yup. There is no position player in baseball worth as much as some of these teams are willing to pay. They never live up to the contracts. Even if they maintained their level of play, it often doesn't justify the contract.

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whoever pays this guy $300MM is gonna regret it.


Yup. There is no position player in baseball worth as much as some of these teams are willing to pay. They never live up to the contracts. Even if they maintained their level of play, it often doesn't justify the contract.

I believe Machado may be the rare one that does. He's so young still, so good. Miguel Cabrera worked out.


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leashyourkids wrote:
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whoever pays this guy $300MM is gonna regret it.


Yup. There is no position player in baseball worth as much as some of these teams are willing to pay. They never live up to the contracts. Even if they maintained their level of play, it often doesn't justify the contract.

I believe Machado may be the rare one that does. He's so young still, so good. Miguel Cabrera worked out.



I'd be really happy if the Sox gave him $32 million a year for 8 or 10 years and just stuck him at short.

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What does "live up to the contract" mean? Would A-Rod signing his 10 year deal at 25 be an example of living up to the contract?

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whoever pays this guy $300MM is gonna regret it.


Yup. There is no position player in baseball worth as much as some of these teams are willing to pay. They never live up to the contracts. Even if they maintained their level of play, it often doesn't justify the contract.

They're paid what the market will bear.

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just go to fangraphs and see what the guy is "worth." At the end of 10 years compare it to what he was paid. When he turns out to have generated $80MM in value and you paid him $300MM, that is a problem.

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