It doesn't really work that way. Sometimes a guy gives a worthwhile speech during a rain delay.

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This is not true, as the Orioles currently have 3 starting caliber OF and many OF prospects in the system.

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You forget the part where they win the World Series! #2016

I think part of the consideration has to be that you are devoted to not losing the bidding war for him. If he signs AND you win the world series this year, Schwarber and Russell would be a pittance.

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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/05/ ... eltre.html

Rangers might be ready to trade their veterans. Any interest in Beltre, Hamels, or any of their pitchers for the Cubs?

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Nobody wants Schwarber. This trade was better two years ago.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Wrong. AL teams are interested because he’s a career DH.

Schwarber is a good DH, spot starter in left or backup catcher. I still think Caratini has more value than him. There are only a few teams that will rent Manny, the Cubs are right there at the top of the list.

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Yeah, because every AL team is hungry for an .800 OPS DH.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Well obviously. But you don't know that when you make the bet, only after it's all over but the crying.

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The only catching Schwarber is ever going to do is if he turns gay.

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I am not in favor of paying a big price for Machado without a long term contract being signed, which he won't do.

It is a pittance even without the long term extension.

Schwarbs and Addy for another title? Yes please.

Exactly, onepost.. Could have won last year if they grabbed verlander.. This is another no brainer.. Dump Addy
Plus Happ or caratini..get it done

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Obviously, if this won them a WS, it’d be worth it. But that’s a hindsight opinion. And even then, it’d be hard to say a single player won them a WS.

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So drunk logic here. This isn't about Manny as a rental it's about making a trade for Manny and having enough assets left to consider your farm system relevant even if he leaves in FA.

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He will leave in free agency.
If the Cubs hadn't won a world series in 16 I'd say you gotta go all in to win one. But they did win a world series. The wait is over. The urgency and desperation is long gone. I want to see sustained success. You dont gain sustained success by selling out and swinging for the fences.

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I think that's exactly right. If you think you need a bat at the deadline there will be guys that you don't have to give up the farm to get.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Hopefully they don't need a pitcher, because they DID give up the farm last year to get a .500 arm!

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How do you know this?

I haven’t seen sustained success from Addison Russell in the 3.5 seasons he’s been with the Cubs. Also haven’t seen sustained success from Kyle Schwarber in 775+ at-bats. I like sustained success. That’s why I don’t want to see these two guys in the lineup any longer and would be ecstatic to receive a 3 time all star who’s averaged .280 35 HRs and 92 RBIs the last 3 seasons (on pace for 52 and 155 this year) for them.

What farm? Who’s giving up the farm? Where is this farm?

You're not gonna get Machado by "packaging" all the crap you don't want.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Jorr.. Machado is an UFA in 4 months, this ain't a Chris Sale deal.. He's a high price rental.. Nobody is giving up a ton of cost controlled talent for 120 days of Manny. Caratini, Addy and an AA arm is enough.

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I don’t understand not wanting Machado for a deal like this.

Not sure what it was when this was posted but .878 right now.

Which is why the Orioles will never accept.


They are notorious for over valuing their own assets and holding onto guys way longer than they should.

It's been in the .900's until recently. I'm a Schwarber basher but he has had a fine season offensively so far.

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They're just not going to give him up for bums you don't want because "it's just a 140 day rental." If it comes to that they'll just keep him and let him walk at the end of the year if he doesn't accept what they are willing to pay him. He's the face of their franchise. It's a much better look for their fans than giving him away to help someone else. They're going to ask for premium prospects and maybe someone will be desperate enough to give them up.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

The GM and coach are getting canned October 1st, not sure who's in charge.. Believe the owner is in poor gealth as well.

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You're correct in that Dan Duquette is not running a charity. He also isn't running in a popularity contest. He knows by now that the Orioles are out on Manny Machado in free agency. It is his job to get a return on his assets, to help in his team's rebuild. A bad return, in your eyes, is still better than a compensatory pick after a declined QO.

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