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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 12:03 pm 
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He has good mid 90's stuff from the left side. Extremely effective when he is locating. Everyone knows the second he is released he will regain form and be dominant. This might be a randy johnson NYY mental midget thing.

My take...its a fairly straight mid 90s fastball with not much deception. At this level anyone can hit a mid 90s pitch if they know irs coming


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I could do without ever watching Heyward bat again. They could just pay him for rally speeches to other major league quality players.

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Fucking heyward . Just eat 50 mil and send him to st lou for Dex. He can not keep being in this lineup with this awful hitting. His triple last night was pop up hot garbage.

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I could do without ever watching Heyward bat again. They could just pay him for rally speeches to other major league quality players.

6 more years. That contract is worse than GE stock


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
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He has $20M deferred. Paying him roughly $20M a year for the next 5 years doesn't seem that awful. Paying him $29M this year does.

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I can not understand how his contact is so bad. He pops up all the time to 2nd base. You would think that would be correctable.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
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Fucking heyward . Just eat 50 mil and send him to st lou for Dex. He can not keep being in this lineup with this awful hitting. His triple last night was pop up hot garbage.

Why the hell would any team, including the Cardinals, take Heyward?

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I could do without ever watching Heyward bat again. They could just pay him for rally speeches to other major league quality players.

6 more years. That contract is worse than GE stock

Caller Bob + David Letterman c. 1986 = MATCH

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
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Fucking heyward . Just eat 50 mil and send him to st lou for Dex. He can not keep being in this lineup with this awful hitting. His triple last night was pop up hot garbage.

Why the hell would any team, including the Cardinals, take Heyward?

They like him and they absolutely hate Dexy. If the Cubs paid off the difference I could see them doing it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
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Fucking heyward . Just eat 50 mil and send him to st lou for Dex. He can not keep being in this lineup with this awful hitting. His triple last night was pop up hot garbage.

Why the hell would any team, including the Cardinals, take Heyward?

They like him and they absolutely hate Dexy. If the Cubs paid off the difference I could see them doing it.

I gotta ask ya what your source on who the 'they' are and why 'they' still like him, not just b/c of his awful offense but now as a concussed player as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
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I can not understand how his contact is so bad. He pops up all the time to 2nd base. You would think that would be correctable.


It's mental at this point.

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Fucking heyward . Just eat 50 mil and send him to st lou for Dex. He can not keep being in this lineup with this awful hitting. His triple last night was pop up hot garbage.


Dex is 32 years old.

Almora is the leadoff guy.

Heyward sucks, but the Cubs may be able to maneuver a trade in the coming offseason.

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That wasn't a strike. Schwarber got fucked.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
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Fucking heyward . Just eat 50 mil and send him to st lou for Dex. He can not keep being in this lineup with this awful hitting. His triple last night was pop up hot garbage.


Dex is 32 years old.

Almora is the leadoff guy.

Heyward sucks, but the Cubs may be able to maneuver a trade in the coming offseason.

I believe that he has a full no trade clause until 2020.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds
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Heyward did show some signs before the concussion, notably more fly balls, a better hard hit ball velocity, etc. so hopefully once he gets his timing back he'll be decent. As for trading him, no one will pay anymore than 7-8M straight up so they'd have to pay down 60%+ of that contract which isn't gonna happen anytime soon. Once there is only 2-3 years left on the deal, then they can eat the contract or swap him for another bad contract(s).

Hopefully Chilli can get into his head and teach him to punish the ball a little.


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Heyward has a partial no trade clause for 2019-2020. Has full no trade 2016-2018.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-cubs/jason-heyward-7231/

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As to Theo's other mammoth contract, at least Darvish didn't mentally collapse today and gave them six good innings overall. Hopefully he starts to get a feel for that split because with that he can really be nasty assuming he has the fastball command which he needs given that pitch is pretty straight but is 95+.


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You guys gotta let the Hayward thing go.. He's here for a long time.. Just bat him 8th and forfet about it.

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I didn't see the game yesterday, was heyward hit a legit triple or an error?

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No one is trading for Heyward, even if the Cubs agreed to pay his entire contract .

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Morrow is our best closer in decades. He's better than Chapman

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Morrow is our best closer in decades. He's better than Chapman

lets not get crazy. He has been good so far, but not really tested that much. Long way to go to be the best closer in decades.

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I didn't see the game yesterday, was heyward hit a legit triple or an error?

It was a pop up to no mans land. Scooter got a glove on it but instead of catching it flung it into the right field corner.

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Fucking heyward . Just eat 50 mil and send him to st lou for Dex. He can not keep being in this lineup with this awful hitting. His triple last night was pop up hot garbage.

Why the hell would any team, including the Cardinals, take Heyward?

They like him and they absolutely hate Dexy. If the Cubs paid off the difference I could see them doing it.

I gotta ask ya what your source on who the 'they' are and why 'they' still like him, not just b/c of his awful offense but now as a concussed player as well.

The BFIB of course. I believe he was a well liked guy in the clubhouse and with Matheny. The fans do nothing but bitch about Dex and I believe without naming names some players said he does not do things The Cardinal Way last year.

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some players said he does not do things The Cardinal Way last year.


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No one is trading for Heyward, even if the Cubs agreed to pay his entire contract .


We don't know that.

Have you lost faith in saint Theo?

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Quality baseball players sit because of Heyward. At least Happ and Schwarbs add something at times. Zo is playing decently. Heyward should sit until someone else gets hurts or is in a deep slump. You watch his at bats and just get sick to your stomach.

GE needs to be split into at least three pieces. Only way to unlock the value of that piece of garbage.

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As to Theo's other mammoth contract, at least Darvish didn't mentally collapse today and gave them six good innings overall. Hopefully he starts to get a feel for that split because with that he can really be nasty assuming he has the fastball command which he needs given that pitch is pretty straight but is 95+.


Agree there were moments today where he could of went to crap. He held it together against a bad team but I’ll take it.

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