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 Post subject: Re: Carson Fulmer
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Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Fulmer
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Stop being so negative.

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Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Fulmer
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Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.

He’ll be lucky to have the career of Andrew Cashner

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Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

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312player wrote:
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Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.


It was mostly one bad start against Durham. But yeah best to only focus on that right?

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Fulmer
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They said he is working on a changeup. I am not too worried.


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 Post subject: Re: Carson Fulmer
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Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.

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Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.


If only they had you as a coach.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.


If only they had you as a coach.

So you still think he has what it takes to be an effective starter in the major league?

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I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Fulmer
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I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.

Perhaps so. But he and I have had a running discussion about Fulmer and I think his last post to me was in regard to him.

Of course Kopech is and will be a starter.

But Fulmer is a bullpen arm.

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312player wrote:
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312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Fulmer
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.


I was told that Fulmer having a successful start is a bad thing. So if Kopech has a bad start then it's a positive in the logic of RFDC.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.


I was told that Fulmer having a successful start is a bad thing. So if Kopech has a bad start then it's a positive in the logic of RFDC.

Nice try. Completely different situation.

So answer my question, do you still think Fulmer has what it takes to be a starting pitcher in the majors?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
312player wrote:
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312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.


53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.

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312player wrote:
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312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.



53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.


Best to cut him then. You really could not be more transparent or stupid about this.

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Lol.. I have said from day one I'm not a believer in the kid.. If he was tearing up AAA I'd rethink my stance.. He ain't.

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Classy.

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Lol.. I have said from day one I'm not a believer in the kid.. If he was tearing up AAA I'd rethink my stance.. He ain't.


And if he were in the Cubs system you would be jerking it to him. He just turned 22, and he's averaging more than a strikeout per inning. Best to focus on a two game stretch where he walked 8 people though. Yeah.

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53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.

2.79 so/bb ratio is not good? Huh


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Poor 312. Just getting destroyed here.

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I could bang your wife in 20 minutes you Caller Bob.

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Your face is putrid.



I could bang your wife in 20 minutes you Caller Bob.


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RFDC wrote:
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Stop being so negative.


Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.


If only they had you as a coach.

So you still think he has what it takes to be an effective starter in the major league?


He's got the good face. He's a starter.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
312player wrote:
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312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.

19 walks in 40 innings is a lot.


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53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.

2.79 so/bb ratio is not good? Huh



It's okay, it's ..what's Sale for his career? 6~1 ?

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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312player wrote:
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312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



It's an obscene

Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.

19 walks in 40 innings is a lot.



It's an obscene amount of walks in 40ip

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