The administration at Yale clearly wants to know what she thinks. The upper crust of liberal society sure loves it when she puts on the Russia hat!

What is a Bernie Bro- someone who thought he's more honest than Hillary Clinton? You are clearly carrying the flag for the defeated former First Lady otherwise you would not be as obsessed with proving Trump was not legitimate. So that behavior is "good" and pointing out the activities during the primary is "bad"?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Maybe she should run for President again since she is so beloved in all of these different places.

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The great minds at Yale baffle me. The Dems don't have one valid candidate which is the reason that Hillary still gets attention. I think Bernie should run again so they can screw his old ass out of another possible victory. He's their only hope and if socialism comes to the U.S. we're all fucked. Bernie Bros can suck it. Then when they're done suck it some more. A valid 3rd party candidate is what I've always wanted. Trump getting elected made me think that there's a 1% chance that could finally happen some day.

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I've always been crazy but it's kept me from going insane.

At least a third of "Bernie Bros" have given up and joined the red hats by now. The Dems lost their shot at capturing those people, not that they were interested in them in the first place.

I would not rule out her trying.

So they can never come back to the Democratic Party?

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As long as the democrats maintain a "fuck white people" and "all men are garbage" platform no. In fact they'll probably continue to hemorrhage Bernie Bros until all they are left with is the soyiest boys on the block.

And really, at this point its obvious that it will take more than just a couple elections to get the democrats to stop demonizing whites and men. That's the closest thing they have to an ideology at this point.

So you are saying that people voted for Trump at least in part for racial reasons?

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I'm fairly confident there is a large number of people who don't see it that way.

White men are going to be ok.

Nothing wrong with letting brown people have a little piece of the pie anyway.

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But their message really doesn't address economics (at least not to me). What are they for? A higher minimum wage? More Wall St Regulation? (LOL) What values that help the "common man" do they stand for other than holding parades and yelling about unfairness? I'm not saying the system is completely fair, but what is the solution here? In the last election, the people who want "equality" or whatever nebulous term they would have elected a person who could not be more of a Washington insider to fix a problem that they claim still exists in America after more than 250 years.

The point is that the Democrats don't even have an economic message. That's why people latched onto Bernie even though he is a Socialist and Socialism itself is not popular in America. If Democrats ever want to complain that people perceive them as only caring about non-existent social issues instead of having an actual economic message, they have no one to blame but themselves. Go do like Sanders did and use that as the only thing you ever talk about. That's half the battle right now. It's the economy, stupid.

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Id say the wage gap between the executive class and the rest of us would be a good place to start.

I just don't think MANY in this country liked Hillary as a candidate. She was the worst candidate in my voting lifetime.

Trump won because of his economic promises and dog whistling to the insecure whites about race issues.

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It would've been the smart thing to do in December of 2016. If they had any discipline, they would've left the Russia stuff alone and let the investigation play out. Then they would talk about issues that still face Americans. Criticize the President when it's something warranted (removing barriers for people with mental illness to owning guns as an example). They didn't and instead did what they always do: tell people who don't agree with them that they are stupid and racist.

I fear the midterms upon which Democrats are counting on to be a rebuke of the President will be a disappointment for them.

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I think you're close to Hillary's theory. Didn't she divide them into three groups?...

1) People who hated her and would never vote for her
2) People who were "deplorable" and voted based on racism or whatever
3) People who liked Trump's economic message, no matter how stupid it sounded

So why the hell didn't she go after group 3? It's because she thought she had it in the bag so she played identity politics instead. And the Democratic policy has tended to continue that theme, IMO. They're talking about rolling out Joe Biden. Really?

They need to find enthusiastic, NEW candidates who have a cohesive economic message. And they are stumbling all over themselves to screw that up in every election possible.

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The best thing the Democrats could hope for is that CoF declares Trump will win in a landslide

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

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Yes, and they continue to do it. But anytime you point it out, self-described "Democrats" will get mad and say you're defending Trump. Most people don't hate Democrats inherently (staunch Republicans do, of course). I grew up in a Democratic house. But I do hate the current iteration of the Democratic party. If I were a hard-line Democrat, I would be demanding that things change or looking elsewhere for at least attempted solutions to issues I care about. And it appears that's what a lot of people are doing.

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And you are going to say that the same was not true about Obama?
If a group is putting you down,why help them gain power?
It would be like a J E W voting for a Nazi.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Obama never made racism a part of his campaign. Trump did however.

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This always amuses me. The (Bill)Clinton economic plan that once was popular(even among the goofy Reagan democrats), is now reviled in all quarters. Obama was a purely corporate democrat that saw the markets & corporate wealth skyrocket. Until they decided that he wasn't what his record proved he was when republicans closed their eyes and imagined alternative facts. The gop had no real economic plan not based on asinine supply side economics, even more hapless tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations that have been swimming in cash for 25 years with one 2 yr. hiccup, or cutting regulations. Regulations which once protected employees, consumers and the environment. And now deficits don't matter.

But the myth persists that republicans have an actual economic plan that is beneficial to others outside the top 1%. Especially in some blue collar types that love to tout themselves as THE salt of the earth people in this country. And were butthurt when Hillary told them the truth that mining and manufacturing jobs as they once were are never coming back. Because she suggested they'd need to be retrained, or that education is a public good, because....Hillary. And how it was so convenient to criticize her words in favor of puffing, pie in the sky bs from a known liar and business failure. But the bullshit coming with the imprimatur of the fraud and the select academics that are OK in right wing ivory towers, is acceptable from the group that otherwise hates the "academic elite". Or the hated Wall St. & Goldman Sachs and the swamp insiders who had to go, until trump hired them and it was magically ok.

Laughable.

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she won the popular vote

Republicans on this board have essentially stated and continue to tell blacks that they are stupid for voting Democrat. How often have we had to hear that song played out on here. Trump also told blacks that they were stupid for voting Democratic with his drippingly condescending "what do you have to lose" bullshit and as I recall no one on here was terribly offended either. Every time race is discussed by blacks on here they are somehow playing the "race card" yet it is often the non blacks who constantly reference race. It seems that as long as race can be discussed on terms that are favorable to whatever philosophy or ideology that they possess then it is fine yet when others address it then it is a problem with them.


Trump ran a campaign that race baited. He race baited before he ever became a candidate. That isn't something that Dems cooked up in their "delusional" heads as that is what he did.

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But, the popular vote was a fraud, until Trump's handpicked multi million dollar commission had no proof, even in R friendly states, unless you count the odd dolt who voted trump multiple times in AZ or Iowa.

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Yes the limousine liberal elites are so out of touch it's truly depressing.

If they don't come into the 2020 race with a strong economic message at the forefront they will get annhilated... Unless Trump is impeached. Then idk

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Shocking that they feel pushed out of the party.

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"They" have been saying the same tired story since the 70's. "They" bought into voodoo economics, the idea that the federal government is evil (in part ), and have been voting contrary to their own economic interest for 40 yrs. now. Getting the short end of the stick and being pacified by the evangelicals against abortion, patriotic non issues and some sense of American values that don't acknowledge actual American history.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

oh

She was the worst.

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