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The idea that the DNC is a place for any white people is laughable. The political moves in places like California and Washington state bear that out.

"White people need to shut up and listen" is the mantra now.

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Can evangelical Christians guided by their belief in an apocalypse and rapture be said to favor the destruction of a 2,500-year-old civilization? What else can you call it?

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As for the rest with Bernie, wtf does that have to do with the November vote, other than to deflect?


I mentioned how Hillary & the DNC screwed Bernie because you're acting like Trump should've never suggested Hillary would have done anything underhanded or illegal that warranted investigating regarding thevotes/election. She plays dirty and always has. C'mon lady.

Another butthurt Bernie Bro. Move on.


I voted for Trump you chode. If you read the thread you'd have to be blind to think I was a Bernie Bro.

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Can evangelical Christians guided by their belief in an apocalypse and rapture be said to favor the destruction of a 2,500-year-old civilization? What else can you call it?

as long as they land on the right side of history we'll forgive the weirdness.


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Can evangelical Christians guided by their belief in an apocalypse and rapture be said to favor the destruction of a 2,500-year-old civilization? What else can you call it?



I favor people of faith over god less pansexual burritos trying to tell my kids about "love is love"

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Nah, only one party really sucks. Republicans aren't perfect but when they are opposed to the total destruction of a 2500 year civilization that has done absolutely impossible things, well...their flaws dont seem to matter much in perspective of the big picture.

Brother, everything you post about politics or culture is so parallel to white nationalist ideals it's kind of suspect.

oh no reality is running in a direction I dont like, might as well go to fantasy land. go watch an avengers movie and die retarded.

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Yes, my not living in a constant state of panic worried about the Muslim apocalypse is the problem.

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Well, to be fair, we do have to keep the Muslims in check. If you let them start feelin' themselves like they are in London, that won't turn out well for anyone.

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I think he wins even if there is a weak economy. The non stop attention paid to Trump will drown out all of the other candidates as it did in 16.


Oddly, I believe Roger Stone's remarks from the weekend. If he makes it to 2020, he'll declare that he kept his promises and if nothing catastrophic happens, he'll claim himself a rousing success, state that he's tired of the swamp, wants to spend time with his family :wink: , declare victory and quit.

Unless he wants to further delay his then pending indictments.


I think you are right & that may be the way it goes. I'm cool with it.

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The UK is what happens when you embrace multiculturalism and swear off everything that ever made your country great to become a service economy. Its an absolutely tragic story.


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The UK is what happens when you embrace multiculturalism and swear off everything that ever made your country great to become a service economy. Its an absolutely tragic story.

Hasn't the US always been multicultural?

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I think this is an exaggeration. It may seem that way when the Republican Party is overwhelmingly the party of straight white men, but the Democrats are not exactly hostile to them. When you look at their gameplan for taking back Congress (the infamous road through Panera Bread), it's based on a lot of small business owners and Iraq veterans -- groups you would expect to be on the other team but Actually Aren't -- and the majority of them are straight white males. We joke about all left-of-center politics being taken over by militant black lesbians, but that's clearly not really happening.


Idk, maybe a bit. I don't think hnd's story a few pages back is unique. I can see it in a handful of family members that once voted democratic.

I guess when I think of feminists in the Democratic Party I used to think of my mom and aunts. Normal people that wanted opportunities.Now I think of people like Julie and that girl form the video posted here last week or that professor from Fresno state. That's not good.


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The UK is what happens when you embrace multiculturalism and swear off everything that ever made your country great to become a service economy. Its an absolutely tragic story.

Hasn't the US always been multicultural?

Absolutely not. Read on tbe difference between multiculturalism and assimilation.


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I find it odd that a political party which polls at 90% white nationally is the one complaining about identity politics. Is this some sort of twisted logic or what?

Prior to the election many a Republican would pontificate about how the Republicans could no longer be the party of "white men" if they hoped to win the Presidency. Trump wins the Presidency and bang that theory goes out the window.


I would have thought that to be true. The democrats have made it very clear white straight men are not welcome or considered and in some ways extends to white women. It's not identity politics people are complaining about, it's the identity itself.

I say this as a white, straight, cisgendered, stay at home, middle class, feminist that neither side has given a shit about. Both parties suck now and for all the same reasons.



The history suggests otherwise however. Whites voted Republican many years prior to gay marriage. Republicans let it be known that they would be the home for whites and specifically white men.

Does anyone remember when Limbaugh used to refer to women as "feminazi" I sure do. What is troubling is the notion that groups that have been historically disinfranchised are wrong for speaking out about inequities. I don't many that have called for the rich to hand over their money. What i think what bothers them is being part of a system that overwhelmingly favors the rich or influential.

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The UK is what happens when you embrace multiculturalism and swear off everything that ever made your country great to become a service economy. Its an absolutely tragic story.

Hasn't the US always been multicultural?

Absolutely not. Read on tbe difference between multiculturalism and assimilation.

We do agree on the issue of middle eastern muslims not wanting to have families with anyone other than other middle eastern muslims. They need to get over that shit.... If that's what you mean.

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I'm all on board for some Muslim hate but no, I'm referring to the fundamental difference in policy between multiculturalism and assimilation.


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Muslims won't assimilate, right?

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The history suggests otherwise however. Whites voted Republican many years prior to gay marriage. Republicans let it be known that they would be the home for whites and specifically white men.

Does anyone remember when Limbaugh used to refer to women as "feminazi" I sure do. What is troubling is the notion that groups that have been


Sure. And the Repubs ostracized a lot of groups including some white people, in doing that. Those people then voted Democratic. What I'm saying is now the Democrats are openly hostile to parts of the groups. It's not a good road for them to go down.

I've never watched/listened to Limbaugh beyond clips that are in the news or whatever. If he called every woman a feminazi that's wrong, if he called a Dicaro type woman one he's less wrong. I used to thing the right was "bad" and there wasn't much wrong with the left. Neither one motivated me to support them in anyway. The left has some really crazy, loud, and bad ideas currently. The silencing of speakers seem to be a bone of contention in my family specifically. I don't blame people for turning away even if what they are turning to is pretty bad in a different way. Sometimes you gotta pick a poison.


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Muslims won't assimilate, right?

It's just a matter of policy. They are the two competing ways of bringing in immigrants. The UK and very famously Canada never pushed the melting pot the way the USA did.

Until recently it was considered very bad to be a hyphen-American. Speaking your mother tongue after a generation or two was really frowned on. That's not true in the UK or Canada.


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Muslims won't assimilate, right?


It's a political buzzword. Multiculturalism is the idea that different groups move to America and don't assimilate whatsoever, keeping their own culture completely.

Traditionally, America has been a place of assimilation, where we accept anyone who wants to come with the understanding that they adopt Western culture and values upon their immigration.

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Muslims won't assimilate, right?


It's a political buzzword. Multiculturalism is the idea that different groups move to America and don't assimilate whatsoever, keeping their own culture completely.

Traditionally, America has been a place of assimilation, where we accept anyone who wants to come with the understanding that they adopt Western culture and values upon their immigration.


A lot of that has to do with the appeasement of different languages. It dissuades the need to assimilate.

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Muslims won't assimilate, right?


It's a political buzzword. Multiculturalism is the idea that different groups move to America and don't assimilate whatsoever, keeping their own culture completely.

Traditionally, America has been a place of assimilation, where we accept anyone who wants to come with the understanding that they adopt Western culture and values upon their immigration.


A lot of that has to do with the appeasement of different languages. It dissuades the need to assimilate.


Now you've done it.

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Muslims won't assimilate, right?


It's a political buzzword. Multiculturalism is the idea that different groups move to America and don't assimilate whatsoever, keeping their own culture completely.

Traditionally, America has been a place of assimilation, where we accept anyone who wants to come with the understanding that they adopt Western culture and values upon their immigration.


A lot of that has to do with the appeasement of different languages. It dissuades the need to assimilate.


Now you've done it.


It's the truth.

It isn't the end of the world or anything but people being able to function speaking another language doesn't make someone want to try.

It's generational too.

Older people who came here took pride in it and strove to learn the language. And even when they couldn't speak it very well, they tried.

Young people don't give a shit now and there's not a practical reason to.

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Muslims won't assimilate, right?


It's a political buzzword. Multiculturalism is the idea that different groups move to America and don't assimilate whatsoever, keeping their own culture completely.

Traditionally, America has been a place of assimilation, where we accept anyone who wants to come with the understanding that they adopt Western culture and values upon their immigration.


A lot of that has to do with the appeasement of different languages. It dissuades the need to assimilate.


Now you've done it.


It's the truth.

It isn't the end of the world or anything but people being able to function speaking another language doesn't make someone want to try.

It's generational too.

Older people who came here took pride in it and strove to learn the language. And even when they couldn't speak it very well, they tried.

Young people don't give a shit now and there's not a practical reason to.


Agreed.

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I voted for Trump you chode. If you read the thread you'd have to be blind to think I was a Bernie Bro.

Berine Bro... asshole Trump voter.... if you are still on the "Bernie got screwed" thing your intelligence level is the same either way.


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I voted for Trump you chode. If you read the thread you'd have to be blind to think I was a Bernie Bro.

Berine Bro... asshole Trump voter.... if you are still on the "Bernie got screwed" thing your intelligence level is the same either way.

How can you not accept Bernie was fucked in unprecedented ways?

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The idea that the DNC is a place for any white people is laughable. The political moves in places like California and Washington state bear that out.

"White people need to shut up and listen" is the mantra now.


Which group is issuing the directive? Oh please do tell.

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I voted for Trump you chode. If you read the thread you'd have to be blind to think I was a Bernie Bro.

Berine Bro... asshole Trump voter.... if you are still on the "Bernie got screwed" thing your intelligence level is the same either way.


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I voted for Trump you chode. If you read the thread you'd have to be blind to think I was a Bernie Bro.

Berine Bro... asshole Trump voter.... if you are still on the "Bernie got screwed" thing your intelligence level is the same either way.

How can you not accept Bernie was fucked in unprecedented ways?



He wasn't screwed over any more than she was screwed over by Trump. He lost.

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The idea that the DNC is a place for any white people is laughable. The political moves in places like California and Washington state bear that out.

"White people need to shut up and listen" is the mantra now.


Which group is issuing the directive? Oh please do tell.


Keith Ellison. Corey Booker. Kamala Harris. Tammy Duckworth and Wasserman Schultz to name a few

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