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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:57 am 
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Well, when you put it like that...I see your point.

I still for whatever reason don't care about the Winnepeg Jets.


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As someone who doesn’t follow the league much this seems like a weird thread.

There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:37 pm 
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It does make the league look suspect (or shitty) when an expansion team wins a championship. Not every team can be the 1998 expansion Chicago Fire, who won the MLS Cup and the US Open Cup the same year.

Especially when the league has been lusting over Las Vegas for years and then cut a planned two-team expansion down to one so that Las Vegas could have the expansion draft all to itself. Everything about the NHL always looks crooked. In Jim Cornette terms, guess who won the pony.

Well, you know...


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As someone who doesn’t follow the league much this seems like a weird thread.

There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.


Sort of...I don't like their style of play, it's not really enjoyable to watch, and there is a randomness to games that I don't like. It's almost too fast and too much in transition. I can't really argue with it because they are winning though. Just sucks to watch sometimes, hard for me to explain.


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FavreFan wrote:

There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.


Obviously, "deserving" is based on one's opinion. I base my opinion on the luck and randomness that has resulted in their success. I think you are confusing deserving with earned. Vegas has earned their trip to the Finals but I don't think any first year team deserves it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:10 pm 
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DAC wrote:
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There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.


Obviously, "deserving" is based on one's opinion. I base my opinion on the luck and randomness that has resulted in their success. I think you are confusing deserving with earned. Vegas has earned their trip to the Finals but I don't think any first year team deserves it.

What a subjectively dumb thing to say.

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There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.


Obviously, "deserving" is based on one's opinion. I base my opinion on the luck and randomness that has resulted in their success. I think you are confusing deserving with earned. Vegas has earned their trip to the Finals but I don't think any first year team deserves it.

What a subjectively dumb thing to say.


Go the fuck away. You must have some real inadequacies in your life.

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DAC wrote:
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There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.


Obviously, "deserving" is based on one's opinion. I base my opinion on the luck and randomness that has resulted in their success. I think you are confusing deserving with earned. Vegas has earned their trip to the Finals but I don't think any first year team deserves it.

Look at the first sentence of my post you quoted. NO TEAM “deserves” it.

Like you said, they earned it. The complaints here don’t really make sense.

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DAC wrote:
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DAC wrote:
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There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.


Obviously, "deserving" is based on one's opinion. I base my opinion on the luck and randomness that has resulted in their success. I think you are confusing deserving with earned. Vegas has earned their trip to the Finals but I don't think any first year team deserves it.

What a subjectively dumb thing to say.


Go the fuck away. You must have some real inadequacies in your life.

Do I deserve that response?

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Sort of...I don't like their style of play, it's not really enjoyable to watch, and there is a randomness to games that I don't like. It's almost too fast and too much in transition. I can't really argue with it because they are winning though. Just sucks to watch sometimes, hard for me to explain.


I never thought I would condemn speed as a part of the game, but this short-shift dump-and-chase-and-chuck they're working is really artless compared to what the Hawks were doing at their best.

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Sort of...I don't like their style of play, it's not really enjoyable to watch, and there is a randomness to games that I don't like. It's almost too fast and too much in transition. I can't really argue with it because they are winning though. Just sucks to watch sometimes, hard for me to explain.


I never thought I would condemn speed as a part of the game, but this short-shift dump-and-chase-and-chuck they're working is really artless compared to what the Hawks were doing at their best.

Artless?

Wow.

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For a team that everyone was certain would only win 30 games when predictions were made in September, there's a lot of revisionism going on here as to what constitutes "best expansion draft" and "elite players". Also, conveniently forgetting that Fleury was on IR for an extended period of time and Vegas remained on top in their division playing down to a 3rd string goalie when young Subban was also put on IR.

No league shenanigans. This team learned to play damn good hockey with one another and they seemingly have a smart organization at the helm with a vision of what they wanted to do pre and post expansion draft.

Ovechkin would be the only reason I wouldn't want a Vegas Stanley Cup win. But I also want Vegas to absolutely humiliate Braden Holtby.

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DAC and CH,
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There’s no such thing as a team “deserving” to go to a championship game/series. If the Knights are good enough and beat their competition than they deserve to be in the Cup Finals. Smart drafting and cap management is all good, but what happens on the ice/court/field is all that matters.


Obviously, "deserving" is based on one's opinion. I base my opinion on the luck and randomness that has resulted in their success. I think you are confusing deserving with earned. Vegas has earned their trip to the Finals but I don't think any first year team deserves it.

Look at the first sentence of my post you quoted. NO TEAM “deserves” it.

Like you said, they earned it. The complaints here don’t really make sense.


Your second sentence states that if Vegas is good enough....then they deserve to be in the Finals which is what they did. So on one hand you say no team is "deserving" then you say if they are good enough then they deserve it. Which one is it?

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For a team that everyone was certain would only win 30 games when predictions were made in September, there's a lot of revisionism going on here as to what constitutes "best expansion draft" and "elite players". Also, conveniently forgetting that Fleury was on IR for an extended period of time and Vegas remained on top in their division playing down to a 3rd string goalie when young Subban was also put on IR.

No league shenanigans. This team learned to play damn good hockey with one another and they seemingly have a smart organization at the helm with a vision of what they wanted to do pre and post expansion draft.

Ovechkin would be the only reason I wouldn't want a Vegas Stanley Cup win. But I also want Vegas to absolutely humiliate Braden Holtby.


Why?


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I don't care which sport you are discussing...an expansion team with one draft should not have the ability to waltz into the Championship series. it just makes your league look like it's rigged....or it's just a crapshoot. Either way, it's bad. Secondly, having only 1 team in the expansion draft is also stupid. This is silly.

I don't agree with CH on the style of play complaints.....I'll leave that to him.

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Spaulding wrote:
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For a team that everyone was certain would only win 30 games when predictions were made in September, there's a lot of revisionism going on here as to what constitutes "best expansion draft" and "elite players". Also, conveniently forgetting that Fleury was on IR for an extended period of time and Vegas remained on top in their division playing down to a 3rd string goalie when young Subban was also put on IR.

No league shenanigans. This team learned to play damn good hockey with one another and they seemingly have a smart organization at the helm with a vision of what they wanted to do pre and post expansion draft.

Ovechkin would be the only reason I wouldn't want a Vegas Stanley Cup win. But I also want Vegas to absolutely humiliate Braden Holtby.


Why?


Personally i think he's overrated. And when it comes to power rankings year in and year out it always frustrated me to see the continued ignorance against crawford in lieu of guys like Holtby

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Personally i think he's overrated. And when it comes to power rankings year in and year out it always frustrated me to see the continued ignorance against crawford in lieu of guys like Holtby


I've never disliked Holtby but I do enjoy watching Price, Rask, and especially Mike Smith get torched.

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Smith and Rask particularly. If not only for a near guaranteed temper tantrum. Price usually will lose with come class unless he feels the refs are too lenient with interference.

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Looks like we are good again!

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Looks like we are good again!


I don’t particularly care for Vegas but I have no problem if they win the Cup. I just don’t want Tampa and their bullshit salary cap structure to win again.

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