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Pretty dumb quote considering the NBA banned kneeling for the anthem before the NFL did.

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I also cannot wait for the glorious thinkpieces this idiot's yammering will spawn, about how the exact same rule adopted by the NBA regarding anthem protests is Actually Different from the NFL's.


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Yeah lots of that is fine, but...your league bans kneeling! Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.

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Thursdays at...oh wait.

I also cannot wait for the glorious thinkpieces this idiot's yammering will spawn, about how the exact same rule adopted by the NBA regarding anthem protests is Actually Different from the NFL's.


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Pretty dumb quote considering the NBA banned kneeling for the anthem before the NFL did.


:lol: I didn't know that. The dumbest thing is criticizing a business for "playing to their fanbase."

Yeah, use the NBA model of "fuck the fans". You spent $250 and drove 100 miles to see your favorite player Kawahi Leonard and he's a DNP-CD.

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I'm so tired of the "woke" NBA thing

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Yeah lots of that is fine, but...your league bans kneeling! Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.

Right. I obviously agree with most of his message, but the "I'm proud to be in a league...." part just sounds bad to anyone who knows the facts.

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Denied, he's spot on...although he should have been more specific on which portion of the fanbase.

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Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.


Can you elaborate? I thought the NBA required players to stand...not sure how much wiggle room there is in that policy.

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I'm so tired of the "woke" NBA thing


YOU FORGOT ITS THE WOKE BAE LEAGUE LOLOLOLOL!!!!


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Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.


Can you elaborate? I thought the NBA required players to stand...not sure how much wiggle room there is in that policy.

Yeah, I didn't hear Parkins explanation but there's no nuance behind the NBA's rule. Players are required to "stand and line up in a dignified posture" during the playing of the national anthem.

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Steve Kerr might know a few things about free speech.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/the-as ... a-champion

Hours after finding out his father had been shot twice in the head and killed on the other side of the world, Steve Kerr sat on the bed in his dorm room at the University of Arizona and received teammates who came to offer condolences.

Lute Olson, the first-year coach who’d been desperate enough to give Kerr a spot on his team, sat there with him.

What most of Kerr’s old teammates remember is that he did not have much to say.

He had, upon hearing the news via phone from a family friend, gone running into the streets aimlessly.

Malcolm Kerr, a devoted academic not even 18 months into his dream job as the president of the American University in Beirut, built his life around bridging the divide between Christians, Muslims, and Jews when, for most Americans, those matters were abstract and distant.

They weighed heavily on President Ronald Reagan, who released a statement:

“Dr. Kerr’s untimely and tragic death at the hands of these despicable assassins must strengthen our resolve not to give in to the acts of terrorists. Terrorism must not be allowed to take control of the lives, actions, or future of ourselves and our friends.”

Malcolm Kerr’s death, on Jan. 18, 1984, would become national news — a dispatch on terrorism in a land roiled by strife, another in a long scroll of warnings about how religious beliefs would lead to violence there for decades to come — but before the story spread it was a simple fact that a team of young basketball players found difficult to believe, let alone begin to comprehend.

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Shooting someone in the face is free speech in Beirut

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Nomination Accepted. Adam Silver is about Right Wing as they come on this issue. He talks out of his ass so much(Kerr).

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Steve Kerr protested the 4th quarter in game 4 by having his own one man sit down.

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In fairness to Kerr wasn't the NBA's rule in place before all of this and was in response to Chris Jackson?






I didn't feel like Googling his name

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In fairness to Kerr wasn't the NBA's rule in place before all of this and was in response to Chris Jackson?






I didn't feel like Googling his name


Yes, it was directly in response to him. And he was a Muslim {gasp} protesting!

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Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.


Can you elaborate? I thought the NBA required players to stand...not sure how much wiggle room there is in that policy.

Yeah, I didn't hear Parkins explanation but there's no nuance behind the NBA's rule. Players are required to "stand and line up in a dignified posture" during the playing of the national anthem.


Parkins said the NBA encourages its players to express themselves in other ways (T shirts, writing things on their shoes, social media, etc.) and that's why they're different.

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In fairness to Kerr wasn't the NBA's rule in place before all of this and was in response to Chris Jackson?






I didn't feel like Googling his name


Yes, it was directly in response to him. And he was a Muslim {gasp} protesting!

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Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.


Can you elaborate? I thought the NBA required players to stand...not sure how much wiggle room there is in that policy.

Yeah, I didn't hear Parkins explanation but there's no nuance behind the NBA's rule. Players are required to "stand and line up in a dignified posture" during the playing of the national anthem.


Parkins said the NBA encourages its players to express themselves in other ways (T shirts, writing things on their shoes, social media, etc.) and that's why they're different.

Well the NBA certainly promotes individuality a lot more than the NFL does. But that goes hand in hand with it's marketing strategy.

The anthem rules are the same now essentially for both leagues.

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In fairness to Kerr wasn't the NBA's rule in place before all of this and was in response to Chris Jackson?






I didn't feel like Googling his name


Yes, it was directly in response to him. And he was a Muslim {gasp} protesting!

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Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.


Can you elaborate? I thought the NBA required players to stand...not sure how much wiggle room there is in that policy.

Yeah, I didn't hear Parkins explanation but there's no nuance behind the NBA's rule. Players are required to "stand and line up in a dignified posture" during the playing of the national anthem.


Parkins said the NBA encourages its players to express themselves in other ways (T shirts, writing things on their shoes, social media, etc.) and that's why they're different.

Well the NBA certainly promotes individuality a lot more than the NFL does. But that goes hand in hand with it's marketing strategy.

The anthem rules are the same now essentially for both leagues.


But one was a 90's rule when these things were frowned on. Ask Jackson and Hodges.

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Trump literally saying that people need to stand proudly or they shouldnt be in this country seems like it should be a bigger deal.


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But one was a 90's rule when these things were frowned on. Ask Jackson and Hodges.

I understand that but it doesn't change the fact that Kerr directly said that the NBA was more understanding and tolerant of players kneeling for the anthem. That's just not true, and it kind of undercuts the rest of his message.

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But one was a 90's rule when these things were frowned on. Ask Jackson and Hodges.

I understand that but it doesn't change the fact that Kerr directly said that the NBA was more understanding and tolerant of players kneeling for the anthem. That's just not true, and it kind of undercuts the rest of his message.


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Trump literally saying that people need to stand proudly or they shouldnt be in this country seems like it should be a bigger deal.


Red meat distraction and literally unAmerican

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In fairness to Kerr wasn't the NBA's rule in place before all of this and was in response to Chris Jackson?






I didn't feel like Googling his name


Yes, it was directly in response to him. And he was a Muslim {gasp} protesting!

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Parkins has explained the nuance within the NBA, which sounds fine. I don't know.


Can you elaborate? I thought the NBA required players to stand...not sure how much wiggle room there is in that policy.

Yeah, I didn't hear Parkins explanation but there's no nuance behind the NBA's rule. Players are required to "stand and line up in a dignified posture" during the playing of the national anthem.


Parkins said the NBA encourages its players to express themselves in other ways (T shirts, writing things on their shoes, social media, etc.) and that's why they're different.


NFL players can wear message t-shirts on the field during warmups, can't they? They can say whatever they want on social media. I don't think they can typically write things on their shoes, though, but I think the NFL had a week where they could do something charity-related with their shoes.


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But one was a 90's rule when these things were frowned on. Ask Jackson and Hodges.

I understand that but it doesn't change the fact that Kerr directly said that the NBA was more understanding and tolerant of players kneeling for the anthem. That's just not true, and it kind of undercuts the rest of his message.

Technically, he said the NBA understood WHY they were protesting and that it wasnt intended to disrespect the military.


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Yeah, Craig Hodges took a lot of heat back in the day.

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But one was a 90's rule when these things were frowned on. Ask Jackson and Hodges.

I understand that but it doesn't change the fact that Kerr directly said that the NBA was more understanding and tolerant of players kneeling for the anthem. That's just not true, and it kind of undercuts the rest of his message.

Technically, he said the NBA understood WHY they were protesting and that it wasnt intended to disrespect the military.

Right but the NBA's actions suggest that isn't true. Otherwise they wouldn't have a rule in place requiring players to "stand and line up in a dignified posture" during the anthem.

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