It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:49 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 126 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:25 pm
Posts: 4272
pizza_Place: pizza and subs
the argument is that players are still allowed to express themselves during the anthem with "i cant' breath" hoodies or some crap and that the nba is supposedly already putting much more money into "equality" type programs (verifiable?) than the nfl.

i'm like the nfl has made more millionaires out of african americans than most professional sports. and their numbers are down. when numbers are down everyone suffers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 38690
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:

But one was a 90's rule when these things were frowned on. Ask Jackson and Hodges.

I understand that but it doesn't change the fact that Kerr directly said that the NBA was more understanding and tolerant of players kneeling for the anthem. That's just not true, and it kind of undercuts the rest of his message.

Technically, he said the NBA understood WHY they were protesting and that it wasnt intended to disrespect the military.

Right but the NBA's actions suggest that isn't true. Otherwise they wouldn't have a rule in place requiring players to "stand and line up in a dignified posture" during the anthem.

Sure , we have to stand for the anthem too but we do it the right way . Not at all like the icky NFL is making their players do .

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:15 pm
Posts: 41377
Location: Small Fringe Minority
pizza_Place: John's
badrogue17 wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Yeah, Craig Hodges took a lot of heat back in the day.

:lol:


I was hoping someone would get it 8)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:27 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
hnd wrote:
the argument is that players are still allowed to express themselves during the anthem with "i cant' breath" hoodies or some crap and that the nba is supposedly already putting much more money into "equality" type programs (verifiable?) than the nfl.

i'm like the nfl has made more millionaires out of african americans than most professional sports. and their numbers are down. when numbers are down everyone suffers.


Reality is that the rhetoric from leadership is different. Nothing more or less other than maybe writing on shoes. Mark Cuban was out IMMEDIATELY making sure players didn't kneel.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22476
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Kerr makes this a free speech issue ("...proud to be in a league that understands patriotism in America is about free speech..."), implying that the NFL's rule is counter to the concept of free speech.

At this point, it doesn't matter the other ways the Association fosters and encourages free speech, because Kerr is clearly discussing free speech as it applies to peaceful anthem protest, which the NBA and now the NFL both expressly proscribe. Who. You. Crappin'?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Forcing people to stand is very UnAmerican.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:05 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Yet forcing people to kneel is very Catholic.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:19 pm
Posts: 31619
pizza_Place: What??
I was told a business can do whatever they want in regard to suppressing speech. Why is the NFL different than social media corps? Since I have a problem with what Twitter, Google, and Facebook are doing, naturally I have a problem with the NFL suppression.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
I'm so tired of the "woke" NBA thing

Makes me not want to follow the league.

But honestly, if the Bulls were good, it would take a lot to keep me from being interested in the NBA. That's my primary problem with the league right now. They should've rigged the draft for Chicago instead of Sacramento.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 11485
pizza_Place: Dino's
rogers park bryan wrote:
Trump literally saying that people need to stand proudly or they shouldnt be in this country seems like it should be a bigger deal.

Yeah, I couldn't believe I heard that. :lol:

_________________
Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't a crime. It's a loving act between two or more consenting adults.

-Hank Kingsley


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Furious Styles wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Trump literally saying that people need to stand proudly or they shouldnt be in this country seems like it should be a bigger deal.

Yeah, I couldn't believe I heard that. :lol:

Love it or leave it my friend.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 11485
pizza_Place: Dino's
Currently mulling over many sweet Golf Now weekend offerings at 25% off the Hot Deal price.

I'm most definitely loving it.

_________________
Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't a crime. It's a loving act between two or more consenting adults.

-Hank Kingsley


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Also can't draw up an out of bounds play that doesn't involve his power forward running the point.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:39 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
leashyourkids wrote:
Also can't draw up an out of bounds play that doesn't involve his power forward running the point.


Probably the most overrated coach in the NBA.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Nas wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Also can't draw up an out of bounds play that doesn't involve his power forward running the point.


Probably the most overrated coach in the NBA.

Since your guy Stan Van is now unemployed I agree.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
I'm fairly certain Hockey Gay, very drunk and fresh off his ICU visit, could coach the Warrirors to the WCF. Any of us can. Except maybe Brick, who would be upset that there is too much agreement that his team is extremely good and would purposefully sabotage them to spur debate and discourse.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 12:06 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
America wrote:
I'm fairly certain Hockey Gay, very drunk and fresh off his ICU visit, could coach the Warrirors to the WCF. Any of us can. Except maybe Brick, who would be upset that there is too much agreement that his team is extremely good and would purposefully sabotage them to spur debate and discourse.

Kerr had a bad game in game 4 but I don’t think he could’ve done much about tonight. They badly miss Iggy, Steph seems disengaged when KD is on the court, Klay remains inconsistent, and KD is reverting to his OKC bad iso play days.

I’m more in the camp of Kerr is overrated than Kerr is good but I can’t put tonight on him. It’s primarily on Steph.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 1:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22476
pizza_Place: Giordano's
It begins...

https://deadspin.com/the-nba-shouldnt-g ... 1826313089

"The NBA has KINDA been doing the same thing as the NFL for longer, buuuuut...."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 2:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
It begins...

https://deadspin.com/the-nba-shouldnt-g ... 1826313089

"The NBA has KINDA been doing the same thing as the NFL for longer, buuuuut...."

Well there’s a reason we have a huge thread dedicated to trashing deadspin. You should have put that article there.

Your Woke Bae narrative doesn’t work here. I’m probably the most outspoken NBA apologist here and I started this thread. The link you quoted even acknowledged the hypocrisy even though it was a garbage, false article typical of deadspin standards these days.

Anyway, this particular passage is ridiculous:

Quote:
One could argue that the only way that NFL players could get their message on racism heard is to kneel, while NBA players enjoy multiple varied opportunities to speak their minds, which makes the anthem rule less relevant. The Golden State Warriors shut down a trip to the White House after winning their 2017 championship. LeBron James seems to enjoy calling Trump a “bum.” Coaches speak more critically of the U.S. than a lot of Democratic politicians.


The first part of the first sentence is inarguably wrong and it’s embarrassing it got published. As for the rest, I don’t think the NFL prohibits “multiple varied opportunities to speak their minds” to its players. Their champion players can and have refused to visit the White House, any nfl player is free to call the president a bum on twitter without league reprimand, and their coaches are free to speak their mind on whatever they want. It’s just that usually they care more about winning football games than political issues.

The part of me that used to like Deadspin and still likes Magary’s non political columns will be sad when it goes but others are right here, it’s death is coming sooner than later. This is just straight up very substandard journalism even for a glorified blog.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 6:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 am
Posts: 31948
Yeah Kerr is talking out the side of his ass on this. The NBA
Is Progressive in some areas but for the most part it is the same as any other league.

In addition to its policy on the anthem is the dress code policy requiring players to be in a shirt and tie if they are going to be on the bench.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 8:17 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 pm
Posts: 19521
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
I do appreciate his thoughts that the NFL and NBA fanbases are radically different people. NBA fans support anthem protests. NFL fan don't. I would guess most NBA fans are NFL fans as well.

_________________
Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Missing Link wrote:
For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:45 am
Posts: 16825
pizza_Place: Salerno's
Looks more like JORR-in-flight style jacket (tie optional) policy:

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55949
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
It begins...

https://deadspin.com/the-nba-shouldnt-g ... 1826313089

"The NBA has KINDA been doing the same thing as the NFL for longer, buuuuut...."


Deadspin has some nerve writing a "let's slow down on calling the NBA the Woke League" column when they were one of the biggest engines, if not the biggest, of that reputation.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:49 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 am
Posts: 31948
Curious Hair wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
It begins...

https://deadspin.com/the-nba-shouldnt-g ... 1826313089

"The NBA has KINDA been doing the same thing as the NFL for longer, buuuuut...."


Deadspin has some nerve writing a "let's slow down on calling the NBA the Woke League" column when they were one of the biggest engines, if not the biggest, of that reputation.



The NBA was regarded as the "Woke" league decades before the term or Deadspin itself was in operation. They weren't the engines for anything.

The fact remains that the NBA was at the forefront of all major sports leagues on a number of issues i.e. Black Head coaches and GMs, Black Ownership of franchises. etc.

In comparison to other leagues their record speaks for itself.


Actually the NBA probably is becoming less progressive as the years go by.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 pm
Posts: 19521
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
long time guy wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
It begins...

https://deadspin.com/the-nba-shouldnt-g ... 1826313089

"The NBA has KINDA been doing the same thing as the NFL for longer, buuuuut...."


Deadspin has some nerve writing a "let's slow down on calling the NBA the Woke League" column when they were one of the biggest engines, if not the biggest, of that reputation.



The NBA was regarded as the "Woke" league decades before the term or Deadspin itself was in operation. They weren't the engines for anything.

The fact remains that the NBA was at the forefront of all major sports leagues on a number of issues i.e. Black Head coaches and GMs, Black Ownership of franchises. etc.

In comparison to other leagues their record speaks for itself.


Actually the NBA probably is becoming less progressive as the years go by.


Money does that.

Image

_________________
Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Missing Link wrote:
For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:15 pm
Posts: 41377
Location: Small Fringe Minority
pizza_Place: John's
The defense from the libtards regarding Kerr is sad. You can't claim a moral high-ground, citing the NBA as an example...the "well, it was agreed on by the players" is fucking weak-sauce.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55949
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Hm, baseball still brings in almost twice the money that the NBA does, you'd never guess from the way people beat off to the "ascendancy" of the NBA.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:55 pm
Posts: 33067
Location: Wrigley
pizza_Place: Warren Buffet of Cock
Curious Hair wrote:
Hm, baseball still brings in almost twice the money that the NBA does, you'd never guess from the way people beat off to the "ascendancy" of the NBA.


I like the four major sports in this order- Baseball, Hockey, Football, then Basketball. I usually enjoy the NBA Playoffs. I have been pretty underwhelmed with the Conference Finals Games as they have been quite sloppy at the end. I find the NBA cheerleading (ascendancy as you call it) a tad annoying because regular season basketball is just meh, and they still haven't figured out how to make the last five minutes of the game take less than a half hour. To each his own though, unless it's soccer!

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 am
Posts: 31948
Curious Hair wrote:
Hm, baseball still brings in almost twice the money that the NBA does, you'd never guess from the way people beat off to the "ascendancy" of the NBA.


who cares about generated revenue?

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steve Kerr
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 am
Posts: 31948
The most recognizable athlete in the world is an NBA player. Before him it was an NBA player.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 126 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 13 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group