Another thing that I feel needs to be mentioned in these conversations is that after that 1st championship, MJ wasn't chasing anyone. He was considered the greatest of all time by most right then and there. There really weren't any stats to pad, or metric goals to chase for him so much at that point. It was basically -keep winning. Which his teams did.


For guys like Kobe and LBJ, they had a place to set their sights and so on. It's easier to try and reach the bar when you know where it's set. It's tougher to be the one setting the bar.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Super teams

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Jordan also never played in an NBA finals game 7.

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As long as the player in question helps his team win that game 7, I'm not gonna hold that against them.


A losing effort however..

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Yeah but my point is that Jordan was so good that he never had to play in a game 7.

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He did. Just not in the Finals.

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Fare you well, fare you well
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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

FF, these are the types of statements that make me feel the need to defend Lebron.

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You can go on defending him. Jordan played in 6 Finals won all 6 and none go 7 seven games and you don't believe its a big deal?

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You made a perfectly reasonable comment earlier about their ages and primes, and I started to believe you were the sane one. And then you go and say that.

No, I don't think it makes any difference. It's another strange reason to put Jordan on a pedestal when he already has plenty of legit reasons. He also reached a bunch of elimination games BEFORE the Finals, and he even lost some of them. Are we just ignoring those?

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Jordan lost series that he was supposed to lose early in his career so the point regarding elimination games is rather moot.


Lebron has lost series in which he was favored to win. i.e. Dallas and Boston among others.

The Bulls weren't good enough to beat the teams that Jordan lost to early in his career.

The Bulls also weren't predicted to win all of those Finals series either. Phoenix was favored as i recall and they had the benefit of home court. Portland series was close to a pickem and Utah/Seattle were considered close too.

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You wanted the truth and now you can’t handle it. SAD!

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

LeBron is nowhere near Jordan. For those who were not alive or too young to see Jordan, you really can't make a comparison.

It's like when old timers in my time always use to say how The Mick was great but he was no Joe D.

Isiah Thomas says Lebron is a better basketball player than MJ.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4AAbRz6ZRS0

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Would MJ have taken Jr, Smith,Thompson.Green and Hill to the Finals?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

In this East, most definitely.

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Well then it's settled...

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And it wouldnt have taken nearly as long.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

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He also said that he is an authority because he has beaten Jordan more times than Jordan has defeated him and thus isn't a jealous loser. Also said that Jordan has always treated him with respect.

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On reviewing Isiah's record as a GM I have to say he's not a very good judge of talent

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

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Considering that you think that Ben Simmons is the same player as Yogi Ferrell then neither are you.

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and you think Ben no shot Simmons is Magic.....Yogi made 133 more 3 pointers than Ben

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Magic couldn't really shoot either and apparently 3 point shooting is so important to you yet you are bitching about Stevens allowing Rozier to take so many 3's

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Jordan would not have been taken to 7 games by a team missing their two best players.

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truth.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

3's are good when you make them and you have to take more than 3 in a year

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Whether he makes 3's or not he is still a much better player than Yogi Ferrell. If you can find any player comp. scouting that compares the 2 players then i'd be shocked.

You also can be a great player without being a 3 point shooter. For some reason this eludes you. Shooting 3's isn't a requirement for guys that are 6'10 and the fact that he can't or won't shoot them will not keep him out of All Star games.

Will Yogi Ferrell ever make an All Star game? Will he even start for Dallas next season?

You don't have to take more or make more than 3 in a year.

How many did Shaq make for his career? what about Rodman?

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4AAbRz6ZRS0[/quote]

On reviewing Isiah's record as a GM I have to say he's not a very good judge of talent [/quote]


Considering that you think that Ben Simmons is the same player as Yogi Ferrell then neither are you.[/quote]
and you think Ben no shot Simmons is Magic.....Yogi made 133 more 3 pointers than Ben[/quote]


Magic couldn't really shoot either and apparently 3 point shooting is so important to you yet you are bitching about Stevens allowing Rozier to take so many 3's[/quote]
3's are good when you make them and you have to take more than 3 in a year [/quote]

Whether he makes 3's or not he is still a much better player than Yogi Ferrell. If you can find any player comp. scouting that compares the 2 players then i'd be shocked.

You also can be a great player without being a 3 point shooter. For some reason this eludes you. Shooting 3's isn't a requirement for guys that are 6'10 and the fact that he can't or won't shoot them will not keep him out of All Star games.

Will Yogi Ferrell ever make an All Star game? Will he even start for Dallas next season?

You don't have to take more or make more than 3 in a year.

How many did Shaq make for his career? what about Rodman?[/quote]
where you been the name of the NBA today is 3 point shot ...see Steph Currry

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.