The slide is still 100% legal if you go word for word by the rule book. If they don't want home plate collisions than you have to change the rules and any contact with a catcher is interference/out.

Im flip flopping. Dirty and illegal...just like every other Italian I know.

When sliding into a base in an attempt to break up a double play, a runner has to make a "bona fide slide." Such is defined as

1. the runner making contact with the ground before reaching the base,
2. being able to reach the base with a hand or foot,
3. being able to remain on the base at the completion of the slide (except at home plate)
4. and not changing his path for the purpose of initiating contact with a fielder.

Violating any one of those would mean interference. Rizzo was good on 1 through 3. The question was #4, and it was a judgment call.

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Boom.

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you're the perfect man for the job

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Figured that was coming. My point all along.....and Jaw is right, #4 is the problem with the slide.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Bump.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I dont want to put an old bastard like you out of a job....but thanks for thinking of me

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Fixed.

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Cmon.. Mlb umps are functional retards.. Anybody with any baseball knowledge knew that was dirty and he should have been suspended 5 games.

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Stop being a gay.

This is the answer.

Illegal does not equal dirty.



It's clear what MLB wants, just make the run that no sliding player is allowed to make contact with a defender.

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Team Cutler.

Here's your 'Bump' ... check the thread title: it wasn't dirty.

Be a pal and read that to Frank for him.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

C'mon Don. You can't call people dopes because "MLB knows better" and then still stay entrenched when MLB says it was wrong. I guess you know better than MLB?

Lots of dopes in this thread. None of them on the "not a dirty play" side. Props to Cub fans like denis and 312 who saw what should have been obvious to everyone.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Opinions vary.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

That statement is to quiet the cry babies that don't like the slide. League doesn't like negative news.

You should change your name to 365player. Stupid all year long.

Now reports out saying MLB also informed Cubs that the play was not dirty.

they really have no clue what is going on

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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This is a fucking stupid post. Something HawaiiYou would post. What makes you think you know more than MLB?

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wrong Mike

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I’ll tell you this- having a son out there playing sports makes me sensitive to these pro athletes that go out of their way to clip defenseless players. You see the goons in hockey do this all the time. And when I see a guy hit someone’s knee from the backside, it makes me grimace. And honestly, I don’t even care about the technical legality of it. It’s akin to a sucker punch to me.

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That's all well and good and reasonable insofar as your kids are concerned ... you're a good cat for that ... doesn't mean shit to a tree as to the reality of the play though.

Speaking of ...

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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It was illegal, and if it happened to Contreras you'd be screaming bloody murder.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Something seems off here. MLB acknowledged it was illegal but went out of it's way to clarify it wasn't "dirty"? Hard to believe.

Anyway, Rizzo clearly changed the direction he was headed, which clearly makes it a violation of the 4th part of that rule. There's not much to debate here, but I know that's never stopped us before.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Is this you trying to be funny or is stupid just in your DNA?

Sox Subdivision and the reasonable Cubs fans: 1
Cubbie Nation homers: 0

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It’s cause Rizzo’s a nice guy. If that was Baez or some other hot head, I think folks might look at it differently. The slide at best was borderline in terms of the rules. It was definitely intentional, as Rizzo admits. It was against a defenseless player. And it was at a part of the body prone to injury. That is why my original opinion on page was is that the slide was dirty. But it’s my opinion, and I am overly sensitive to these things.

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also the catcher "flopped".