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The Hawk

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:41 am

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good dolphin wrote:

America wrote:

He can absolutely learn to play SS well. Whether he actually will accomplish that is unknown, right now it doesn't look good, but this season is already lost so they may as well give him every chance they can until Madrigal is ready to unseat him. Who else in the system can play SS?
Yolmer, but he's playing 3rd now and, honestly, at SS he's not much better than Anderson.
Leury, but he's hurt and hasn't played SS reguarly since 2015 (at Charlotte)
Danny Mendick and Eddy Alvarez are your starting SS in Bham and Charlotte, respectively.

So there's no other options right now. Might as well throw Anderson out there and see if reps improve him. Anyone who wants to try and trade for a major league quality SS who can play defense to improve things in this lost season is certifiably insane.

The team essentially has three more full seasons before they need to make any conclusions about Anderson

Nah. I think that we have seen enough of Anderson at short-stop to try him at another position, namely center field. Why waste time with Anderson. Move another kid into the position and put Anderson in center field in the minors for at least a month or six weeks and see how he does there. IF he shows promise, then let him play winter ball in center field and spring training next year.

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Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:44 am

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Yolmer is a very nice player to have, but it would be ideal if he was not getting so many at bats.

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Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:55 am

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Hatchetman wrote:

Dane Dunning has been in AA for like 5 starts. I'm sure he'll be a rotation stalwart in Chicago next year.

so then we have a rotation of

Kopech
Lopez
Giolito
Covey
??

Bullpen of
Jace Fry
???
???
???
???
???
???
???
???

So you can't fill out the starting roster and at least a few bullpen spots with some combo of Rodon, Dunning, Cease, Stephens, Hansen, Vierra, Bummer, Jones, Fulmer, and Burdi? Plus a ton of cash to grab an RP or 2.

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Rod

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:01 pm

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America wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

America wrote:

He can absolutely learn to play SS well.

I'll ask again. Who is a guy you have seen as rough as Anderson who improved to be what you would call even adequate at short? I'm not saying it's never happened but it sure doesn't happen much and it's unlikely to happen with Anderson. But his improvement with the strikezone has been miraculous, so that's something.

Former White Sox prospect Marcus Semien looked hopeless at SS and has actually become rather good defensively in Oakland. Not just average, like he is a really good defender at SS.
Xander Bogearts had a year where he literally could not play the position. It was terrible, but I think everyone figured he'd climb out of that rut.

Anderson is a lot better of an athlete than Semien, and man I think you remember how ugly Semien looked at times. Anderson has trouble with the easy ones sometimes but at least he's got range, Semien was just hopeless.

Bogaerts is bad defensively and has negative dWAR every season. Semien was never as bad as advertised but is still a very average shortstop which is what he's always been. You just don't see middle infielders make drastic defensive improvement.

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:19 pm

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calling Semien's improvement anything other than durastic is insane.

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Rod

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:19 pm

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America wrote:

calling Semien's improvement anything other than durastic is insane.

The numbers don't support that.

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Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:19 pm

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Lency Delgado SS FL HS

Came to the USA from Cuba when he was 16.

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:21 pm

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Last edited by America on Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:21 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

America wrote:

calling Semien's improvement anything other than durastic is insane.

The numbers don't support that.

Do you remember the ball literally careening off his glove and him diving at nothing in the year before the Samardzija trade? The dude was a complete butcher.

Those same numbers you'd use to say Marcus Semien has not changed revolutionized his defensive abilities also say Tim Anderson plays an average to above-average SS.

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:41 pm

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Jonathan Steiver RHP Indiana University

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Cashman

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:16 am

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America wrote:

Lency Delgado SS FL HS

Came to the USA from Cuba when he was 16.

Sources telling me that this is a really good pick.

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Cheap Charlie

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:00 am

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America wrote:

Lency Delgado SS FL HS

Came to the USA from Cuba when he was 16.

Buen trabajo. Buen trabajo.
Load em up with Cubans for the move to Habana after the sale of the club.
Trump Tower and Casino next to the ballpark.

"los blancos!"-Peter Gammons

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Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:54 pm

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Know it doesn't mean shit today, but Bleacher Report gave Sox an +A for the draft (tied for highest grade with Tampa) and MLB Dish gave them an +A. Experts seem to like the draft, hopefully they hit on a couple. Lot of love for third round pick Pilkington.

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:55 pm

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When you get the best player at 4th overall its a good sign. Their 3rd round pick looks promising. Steele Walker will have a lot of work to do to stand out among the group of outfielders the Sox have in the minors, but we'll see.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:17 pm

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The Midget went 1-4. Larnach and the soph C Rutschman went yard and the child molester threw the hell out of it. The midget might be the 4th best player on his college team.

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:26 pm

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Enduring years of this Madrigal hate because they didn't draft a shitty Florida pitcher who can't strike out NCAA hitters or throw it over 95mph is gonna wear me out.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:27 pm

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Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:42 pm

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America wrote:

Enduring years of this Madrigal hate because they didn't draft a shitty Florida pitcher who can't strike out NCAA hitters or throw it over 95mph is gonna wear me out.

There’s not gonna be much hate going forward. He’s gonna hit.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:15 pm

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Singer beat Mize. Again

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:18 am

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The midget will playing on ESPN at 2pm today.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:18 pm

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The midget went 1-5 with a slapper 1b the other way.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:00 am

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The midget is playing at 1pm on ESPN

3rd round pick Konnor Pilkington is starting for Mississippi State at 6pm on ESPN

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:05 pm

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Konnor with a K?

What douchebags his parents must be.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:49 pm

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The midget is 0-2 K, GO-6. He did make a really nice diving play to his right.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:21 pm

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FO-9, 1B, cs, error (gasp!)

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:38 pm

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your boy Brady Singer looked like steaming shit the entire CWS. Madrigal could strike out swinging every AB the rest of the way and it wouldn't be as alarming as Singer's collapse.

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:10 am

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Illini Luke Shilling who has a strong Bob Jenks vibe fucked his shit up pretty good and will be out a calendar year.

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FrankDrebin

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:21 am

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America wrote:

Illini Luke Shilling who has a strong Bob Jenks vibe fucked his shit up pretty good and will be out a calendar year.

Lat torn right off the bone; just perfect

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America

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:25 am

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15th round pick, not the end of the world.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: DRAFT 18

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:36 pm

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Pilkington signed for $650k (slot $726,700). Good deal

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