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As someone who has been in the deepest parts of depression and has had 4 suicide attempts,first was at age 14.

You did not succeed in your suicide attempts, but you sure killed that sentence early.

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There's just no way this life he had of travel and leisure could leave him legitimately depressed. Sorry, doesn't make sense. Don't @ me with "depreshun is a dizeeze STUPID AMERICA"--dude had a great life.



As somebody who has spent a great deal of time on the road and in the air, those of you who haven't done that do not realize how truly lonely it can be out there. Look this guy spent something like 250 days a year on the road. Then he would fly home and sneak in a visit with his family before heading off again. There are a lot of people who don't even have that benefit. The character in the movie Up in the Air is someone quite a few people in this world can relate to.

The saddest part for me is that I run around and get to see all of these amazing places. Somebody was introducing me yesterday and said that I am the type of person who can squeeze six cities into a three City day. I have all these wonderful experiences and photos and for most of my life had nobody to share them with. Nobody gave a s***. It wears on you. I can only imagine how wearing it must be with a production schedule and becoming a political figure and all the rest.


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I suspect the guy was always running around like crazy trying to stay one step ahead of his demons.

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I suspect the guy was always running around like crazy trying to stay one step ahead of his demons.


I can see that in him. Also, part of what made him interesting. No secret how he led his early years and probably dodged the reaper a few times already.

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Fuck.

Really like 'Parts Unknown'.

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Fuck.

Really like 'Parts Unknown'.



It was an absolute go to for me as far as mindless tv viewing. I did prefer the travel channel first incarnation though.

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There's just no way this life he had of travel and leisure could leave him legitimately depressed. Sorry, doesn't make sense. Don't @ me with "depreshun is a dizeeze STUPID AMERICA"--dude had a great life.



yep, there's no way you can justify someone who had it that good being depressed. It's almost as if it's because they have some hidden condition you can't see with the naked eye. Kinda like a disease.

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There's just no way this life he had of travel and leisure could leave him legitimately depressed. Sorry, doesn't make sense. Don't @ me with "depreshun is a dizeeze STUPID AMERICA"--dude had a great life.



yep, there's no way you can justify someone who had it that good being depressed. It's almost as if it's because they have some hidden condition you can't see with the naked eye. Kinda like a disease.


Yep. It matters not whether you are rich and successful or just some average guy or worse. You just can't know. The problem usually is people do not understand that when they make the comparisons they are comparing their insides with other people's outsides.

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https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/suicide/?

Suicide rates are up across the US.

I don't know if it has been studied, but I bet social media helps drive this as everyone thinks their friends and acquaintances have the perfect life and don't realize that those people are just putting out the good and hiding the bad.


i absolutely believe it's a factor. not just for what you said, but it's a driving force of a person's way of life. i mean, it has been proven to be a factor in teens' suicides when "cyberbullying" is clearly a factor. i mean, there are 12 other reasons why but...


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Interesting people all struggle with demons. The people who have never been depressed or had anxiety issues are the lamest assholes on Earth. They just go to their kids' baseball games and chat about the weather.

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The people who have never been depressed or had anxiety issues are the lamest assholes on Earth. They just go to their kids' baseball games and chat about the weather.

Or sit in their garage during a storm...

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The people who have never been depressed or had anxiety issues are the lamest assholes on Earth. They just go to their kids' baseball games and chat about the weather.

Or sit in their garage during a storm...


Sometimes I buy copies of Catcher in the Rye to feel normal.

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There's just no way this life he had of travel and leisure could leave him legitimately depressed. Sorry, doesn't make sense. Don't @ me with "depreshun is a dizeeze STUPID AMERICA"--dude had a great life.



As somebody who has spent a great deal of time on the road and in the air, those of you who haven't done that do not realize how truly lonely it can be out there. Look this guy spent something like 250 days a year on the road. Then he would fly home and sneak in a visit with his family before heading off again. There are a lot of people who don't even have that benefit. The character in the movie Up in the Air is someone quite a few people in this world can relate to.

The saddest part for me is that I run around and get to see all of these amazing places. Somebody was introducing me yesterday and said that I am the type of person who can squeeze six cities into a three City day. I have all these wonderful experiences and photos and for most of my life had nobody to share them with. Nobody gave a s***. It wears on you. I can only imagine how wearing it must be with a production schedule and becoming a political figure and all the rest.

He had the money to stop.


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some people are just fucking weird and think eveything is just fine and dandy all the time.

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some people are just fucking weird and think everything is just fine and dandy all the time.

Ignorance is, in fact, bliss apparently.

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My impression is that there are a lot of successful people who reject God and the purpose he gives to each person's life. A world without God is essentially a world without meaning.
"God" would not look favorably upon somebody who judges people by saying that their life has no meaning, simply because they don't believe the exact same thing you do.

You're entering waters that are too deep for you, friend.
I'm a strong swimmer.

Your willfully callous and Pharisaical attitude about suicide suggest otherwise in this matter.

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There's just no way this life he had of travel and leisure could leave him legitimately depressed. Sorry, doesn't make sense. Don't @ me with "depreshun is a dizeeze STUPID AMERICA"--dude had a great life.



As somebody who has spent a great deal of time on the road and in the air, those of you who haven't done that do not realize how truly lonely it can be out there. Look this guy spent something like 250 days a year on the road. Then he would fly home and sneak in a visit with his family before heading off again. There are a lot of people who don't even have that benefit. The character in the movie Up in the Air is someone quite a few people in this world can relate to.

The saddest part for me is that I run around and get to see all of these amazing places. Somebody was introducing me yesterday and said that I am the type of person who can squeeze six cities into a three City day. I have all these wonderful experiences and photos and for most of my life had nobody to share them with. Nobody gave a s***. It wears on you. I can only imagine how wearing it must be with a production schedule and becoming a political figure and all the rest.

When the recession hit, I knew that we had two years of good times at work before the bottom fell out, when 2008 tax revenues dried up and clients stopped hiring us for a while. So I saved up a ton of vacation time, and with a shitload of frequent flier miles from the previous decade's worth of travel I took one long international vacation every month for the first six months of 2010, as the vacation time would help my utilization percentage stay above others who might get laid off. Some trips alone, some with family members whose tickets I covered.

At about the fifth one of those trips, my boss got very frustrated and said "you're taking another vacation??" My reply was "you have a wife and three little kids, I have vacations. Some days I would like to trade places, other days I wouldn't." He got really quiet and never said another negative word to me about the topic.

Travel is a consolation prize for having fucked up my life, not a reward.

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I guess you could say he was bourd to death.

Asia was cheating on him with a younger man.


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My impression is that there are a lot of successful people who reject God and the purpose he gives to each person's life. A world without God is essentially a world without meaning.
"God" would not look favorably upon somebody who judges people by saying that their life has no meaning, simply because they don't believe the exact same thing you do.

You're entering waters that are too deep for you, friend.
I'm a strong swimmer.

Your willfully callous and Pharisaical attitude about suicide suggest otherwise in this matter.


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holy shit he's really dead? i heard someone mention the RIP notice and "kitchen confidential" and thought "man someone else must have wrote a book called kitchen confidential" cuz i bought the company line that he had even quit smoking during the run of his shows.

from the outside bourdain seemed like one of those cool older guys you'd wanna aspire to be. he "lived that life" like kool keith b4 him, being an oldschool punk rock heroin-addicted line cook literally in "hell's kitchen" NYC that overcame adversity, wrote a book, then managed to parlay that book into a successful media/TV career. he always seemed to have both ratings and critical respect, and you'd notice that other cooler-older-people-types would usually have nice things to say about his show. you'd think that the guy "had it all" going for him...

... but i guess in the end it turns out that anthony took one too many recipes from jean paul sartre's cookbook, eh? RIP duderino.

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I almost never watch food programming but the reaction to this guy's death is pretty nuts. Like on the level of Prince.


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I almost never watch food programming but the reaction to this guy's death is pretty nuts. Like on the level of Prince.

women are immensely attracted to him.

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I almost never watch food programming but the reaction to this guy's death is pretty nuts. Like on the level of Prince.

I wouldn't really call his show food programming, but the in memoriam love is pretty strong for him.

But the guy just had this persona that could make just about anyone like the him. He could probably do a show on any city in the world and convince you it was the greatest place on the planet.

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I don't think that is accurate. He was kind of an internationalist. Trump voters would hate the way he brought out the fundamental human goodness of people across different cultures.

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My impression is that there are a lot of successful people who reject God and the purpose he gives to each person's life. A world without God is essentially a world without meaning.

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His books were all really good reads. Liked his shows too.

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Suicide is not a selfish act. That's a misnomer affixed to a desperate act by those who are left here to grieve and wonder "why?".

The amount of courage that goes into killing yourself is extraordinary, especially due to it being so against human nature. For many people, it's the only way they can find relief.

Doesn't make it right, and it should never happen. But it's anything but selfish.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Suicide is not a selfish act. That's a misnomer affixed to a desperate act by those who are left here to grieve and wonder "why?".

The amount of courage that goes into killing yourself is extraordinary, especially due to it being so against human nature. For many people, it's the only way they can find relief.

Doesn't make it right, and it should never happen. But it's anything but selfish.

Needing to find relief no matter the cost to those around you is a pretty solid definition of a selfish act. Thank you for clearing that up.

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