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A link to a thread I didnt start? Are you ok?


You know this thread...

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Like the misplaced contempt by those who keep calling LeBron's guys idiots, while ignoring that individually they are at least as successful as anyone on this board.


You routinely mock and degrade a man who has amassed more wealth than you will see in your lifetime. You don't get to play the "Oh yeah, well Maverick Carter has more money than you!" card.



Yeah but what makes him (Maverick Carter) an "idiot" friend?


I don't know, I believe JORR said it, I was merely pointing out Reader's, as usual, inconsistent logic.



Reader was responding to the "idiot" friend comment though so unless you are aware of why he stated what he stated then your comments are misplaced.


I don't think I need to know what JORR meant by "idiot friends" to point out Reader's hypocrisy. You want to pretend that I have to have some skin in the game to do so, because you're [hopefully] smart enough to realize how hypocritical Reader is being, but I don't.



I'm pretty sure I've never expressed an opinion one way or the other regarding Maverick Carter, and if I have it would have been more in line with Reader's take and likely was in response to Bernstein or someone like him less than subtly suggesting that an NBA player should surround himself with ReallySmart™ Jewish advisors rather than trust a best friend from childhood or one's own brother.

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I'm pretty sure I've never expressed an opinion one way or the other regarding Maverick Carter, and if I have it would have been more in line with Reader's take and likely was in response to Bernstein or someone like him less than subtly suggesting that an NBA player should surround himself with ReallySmart™ Jewish advisors rather than trust a best friend from childhood or one's own brother.


I mis-attributed the "idiots" thing to you, then. I think it was CH, then. Damn, my bad.

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Yeah, I don't care who LeBron surrounds himself with, but to the Gawker crowd, it's certainly a credit to him over Jordan that he relies on his hometown friends.

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Jbi11s wrote:
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As Bernstein was fond of pointing out out over the summer of 2010, Jordan smartly moved past The Community when he came to Chicago and spent a lot of time making friends on the golf courses of the North Shore, while LeBron still entrusts lots of his business decisions to his idiot friends from Akron.

Also worth pointing out is that the Jordan narrative, one of practicing incessantly and relentlessly pushing himself to be better, is one we usually ascribe to white players. Meanwhile, LeBron is the ultimate LOOK AT HIS BODY Big Black Stud. Of course, both players have surely practiced their asses off and were/are both fantastic athletes, but the belief is that Jordan constantly willed himself into being while LeBron is innately a physical freak and just steamrolls people without having to work particularly hard at it.

Please tell me where your obsession with Lebron as some nubian God came from (Don't cop out to blaming Bernstein).

It's the gayest thing on this board, and using it in a repetitive nature like you have been is... Well whatever. Do your thing.

And your last paragraph is bullshit.


You seem unaware that there is a school of writing that uses Beyonce and LeBron as totems for a certain type of social agenda rather than treating them simply as the entertainers they actually are. Don't get chippy because CH is more plugged into to the zeitgeist than you are.

Please explain further how CH is more plugged into the 2018 zeitgeist than me.


As I said, you seem unaware of the context within which he made his remarks and that's odd considering this thread is about Gawker.

Anyway, the idea that LeBron is anything more than a great (perhaps the greatest) basketball player is preposterous and unnecessary. And why he needs to be anything more than that, I don't know. What I do know is that the writing in question obviously isn't geared toward black people. It's something that white folks love to read so they can feel as if they are "hipper" or more "down" than the unwoke white people they love to mock. It is, in fact, quite similar- in content, if not quality- to the crap put forth by Kevin Kaufmann- whoever the fuck he is- in that shitty piece linked in the other thread.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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As Bernstein was fond of pointing out out over the summer of 2010, Jordan smartly moved past The Community when he came to Chicago and spent a lot of time making friends on the golf courses of the North Shore, while LeBron still entrusts lots of his business decisions to his idiot friends from Akron.

Also worth pointing out is that the Jordan narrative, one of practicing incessantly and relentlessly pushing himself to be better, is one we usually ascribe to white players. Meanwhile, LeBron is the ultimate LOOK AT HIS BODY Big Black Stud. Of course, both players have surely practiced their asses off and were/are both fantastic athletes, but the belief is that Jordan constantly willed himself into being while LeBron is innately a physical freak and just steamrolls people without having to work particularly hard at it.

Please tell me where your obsession with Lebron as some nubian God came from (Don't cop out to blaming Bernstein).

It's the gayest thing on this board, and using it in a repetitive nature like you have been is... Well whatever. Do your thing.

And your last paragraph is bullshit.


You seem unaware that there is a school of writing that uses Beyonce and LeBron as totems for a certain type of social agenda rather than treating them simply as the entertainers they actually are. Don't get chippy because CH is more plugged into to the zeitgeist than you are.

Please explain further how CH is more plugged into the 2018 zeitgeist than me.


As I said, you seem unaware of the context within which he made his remarks and that's odd considering this thread is about Gawker.

Anyway, the idea that LeBron is anything more than a great (perhaps the greatest) basketball player is preposterous and unnecessary. And why he needs to be anything more than that, I don't know. What I do know is that the writing in question obviously isn't geared toward black people. It's something that white folks love to read so they can feel as if they are "hipper" or more "down" than the unwoke white people they love to mock. It is, in fact, quite similar- in content, if not quality- to the crap put forth by Kevin Kaufmann- whoever the fuck he is- in that shitty piece linked in the other thread.



That limo conversation between Lebrawn, Durant, and the female black reporter that Lara Engle from Fox got in trouble with her sponsors for her comments about just dribble to the two players after they lashed out in their expletive laced tirade about Trump.

I guess jocks like this do not have to worry about pissing off half of the country in their barrage of insults. Steve Kerr, for example, hates Trump and talks shit all of the time about him.

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That limo conversation between Lebrawn, Durant, and the female black reporter that Lara Engle from Fox got in trouble with her sponsors for her comments about just dribble to the two players after they lashed out in their expletive laced tirade about Trump.

I guess jocks like this do not have to worry about pissing off half of the country in their barrage of insults. Steve Kerr, for example, hates Trump and talks shit all of the time about him.


This really eats you up, doesn't it?

:lol: :lol:

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That limo conversation between Lebrawn, Durant, and the female black reporter that Lara Engle from Fox got in trouble with her sponsors for her comments about just dribble to the two players after they lashed out in their expletive laced tirade about Trump.

I guess jocks like this do not have to worry about pissing off half of the country in their barrage of insults. Steve Kerr, for example, hates Trump and talks shit all of the time about him.


This really eats you up, doesn't it?

:lol: :lol:


Nope. I have never been a big admirer of jocks or other celebrities spouting off about their political beliefs. Why? Because they can read lines well for a movie? Because they can dunk a basketball or throw a football? Who cares? Doesn't mean that they are smart or a good person. It doesn't mean shit. Who cares? The picture of two black jocks in the back of a limo spieling vile words about the president of the US is just an example of how f 'ed up they are. For example I saw that Robert DeNiro at an awards ceremony yesterday spent a couple of minutes in a foul mouthed attack on the POTUS after which he got a standing ovation. That is perfect as far as I am concerned. Good for he and the crowd who stood for him. I will not spend a dime of my money on any movie he ever makes nor any more made by similar actors and actresses.

DeNiro has also stated about he'd like to beat the hell out of Trump. Perhaps Robert has taken his Ragin Bull movie and his movie with Stallone a little too serious. He must think that he is tough like Crazy Joe thinks he is. Hey, Bobbie, you aren't tough:) It was a MOVIE...….It was MAKE-BELIEVE. I know you thought that it was real and you beat Sugar Ray Robinson and not the guy who actually did it.

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The Hawk wrote:
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That limo conversation between Lebrawn, Durant, and the female black reporter that Lara Engle from Fox got in trouble with her sponsors for her comments about just dribble to the two players after they lashed out in their expletive laced tirade about Trump.

I guess jocks like this do not have to worry about pissing off half of the country in their barrage of insults. Steve Kerr, for example, hates Trump and talks shit all of the time about him.


This really eats you up, doesn't it?

:lol: :lol:


Nope. I have never been a big admirer of jocks or other celebrities spouting off about their political beliefs. Why? Because they can read lines well for a movie? Because they can dunk a basketball or throw a football? Who cares? Doesn't mean that they are smart or a good person. It doesn't mean shit. Who cares? The picture of two black jocks in the back of a limo spieling vile words about the president of the US is just an example of how f 'ed up they are. For example I saw that Robert DeNiro at an awards ceremony yesterday spent a couple of minutes in a foul mouthed attack on the POTUS after which he got a standing ovation. That is perfect as far as I am concerned. Good for he and the crowd who stood for him. I will not spend a dime of my money on any movie he ever makes nor any more made by similar actors and actresses.

DeNiro has also stated about he'd like to beat the hell out of Trump. Perhaps Robert has taken his Ragin Bull movie and his movie with Stallone a little too serious. He must think that he is tough like Crazy Joe thinks he is. Hey, Bobbie, you aren't tough:) It was a MOVIE...….It was MAKE-BELIEVE. I know you thought that it was real and you beat Sugar Ray Robinson and not the guy who actually did it.


:lol: :lol: :lol: You were watching the Tonys, you big fat girl.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
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The Hawk wrote:
That limo conversation between Lebrawn, Durant, and the female black reporter that Lara Engle from Fox got in trouble with her sponsors for her comments about just dribble to the two players after they lashed out in their expletive laced tirade about Trump.

I guess jocks like this do not have to worry about pissing off half of the country in their barrage of insults. Steve Kerr, for example, hates Trump and talks shit all of the time about him.


This really eats you up, doesn't it?

:lol: :lol:


Nope. I have never been a big admirer of jocks or other celebrities spouting off about their political beliefs. Why? Because they can read lines well for a movie? Because they can dunk a basketball or throw a football? Who cares? Doesn't mean that they are smart or a good person. It doesn't mean shit. Who cares? The picture of two black jocks in the back of a limo spieling vile words about the president of the US is just an example of how f 'ed up they are. For example I saw that Robert DeNiro at an awards ceremony yesterday spent a couple of minutes in a foul mouthed attack on the POTUS after which he got a standing ovation. That is perfect as far as I am concerned. Good for he and the crowd who stood for him. I will not spend a dime of my money on any movie he ever makes nor any more made by similar actors and actresses.

DeNiro has also stated about he'd like to beat the hell out of Trump. Perhaps Robert has taken his Ragin Bull movie and his movie with Stallone a little too serious. He must think that he is tough like Crazy Joe thinks he is. Hey, Bobbie, you aren't tough:) It was a MOVIE...….It was MAKE-BELIEVE. I know you thought that it was real and you beat Sugar Ray Robinson and not the guy who actually did it.


:lol: :lol: :lol: You were watching the Tonys, you big fat girl.




No, princess. IT was on the news. DeNiro made news by using a series of dumb shit vile comments about the POTUS. Somehow this fat old actor thinks that he is tough. Maybe he is tough to Dustin Hoffman and other sissy actors in Hollywood but all he is is a fat over-the-hill actor who likes to screw underage girls like his buddies Bubba Clinton and Harvey Weinstein.

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The Hawk wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
That limo conversation between Lebrawn, Durant, and the female black reporter that Lara Engle from Fox got in trouble with her sponsors for her comments about just dribble to the two players after they lashed out in their expletive laced tirade about Trump.

I guess jocks like this do not have to worry about pissing off half of the country in their barrage of insults. Steve Kerr, for example, hates Trump and talks shit all of the time about him.


This really eats you up, doesn't it?

:lol: :lol:


Nope. I have never been a big admirer of jocks or other celebrities spouting off about their political beliefs. Why? Because they can read lines well for a movie? Because they can dunk a basketball or throw a football? Who cares? Doesn't mean that they are smart or a good person. It doesn't mean shit. Who cares? The picture of two black jocks in the back of a limo spieling vile words about the president of the US is just an example of how f 'ed up they are. For example I saw that Robert DeNiro at an awards ceremony yesterday spent a couple of minutes in a foul mouthed attack on the POTUS after which he got a standing ovation. That is perfect as far as I am concerned. Good for he and the crowd who stood for him. I will not spend a dime of my money on any movie he ever makes nor any more made by similar actors and actresses.

DeNiro has also stated about he'd like to beat the hell out of Trump. Perhaps Robert has taken his Ragin Bull movie and his movie with Stallone a little too serious. He must think that he is tough like Crazy Joe thinks he is. Hey, Bobbie, you aren't tough:) It was a MOVIE...….It was MAKE-BELIEVE. I know you thought that it was real and you beat Sugar Ray Robinson and not the guy who actually did it.


:lol: :lol: :lol: You were watching the Tonys, you big fat girl.




No, princess. IT was on the news. DeNiro made news by using a series of dumb shit vile comments about the POTUS. Somehow this fat old actor thinks that he is tough. Maybe he is tough to Dustin Hoffman and other sissy actors in Hollywood but all he is is a fat over-the-hill actor who likes to screw underage girls like his buddies Bubba Clinton and Harvey Weinstein.


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"Oh Cool, We're Doing The Puto Controversy Again"

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The word gets translated to “burrito” pretty often but should probably be taken more literally to mean something like “man-whore,” and it has homophobic undertones even if supporters of the chant defend it as an innocent insult. In the same way that the English “cocksucker” gets used by not-very-bright people as a catch-all insult for men, “puto” is an allegedly sexuality-neutral word that nevertheless works to reinforce traditional straight, masculine power. Whether or not the intent is there when it’s shouted on goal kicks, “puto” is a symbol of homophobia and a common insult experienced by gay men in Mexico, who I would think generally don’t want to hear it as they’re trying to enjoy and not get beat up at a sporting event.

So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


Team Mexico fans shouting their version of "burrito" at opposing players isn't Actually Bad!!!!


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
https://deadspin.com/oh-cool-were-doing-the-puto-controversy-again-1826936066

"Oh Cool, We're Doing The Puto Controversy Again"

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The word gets translated to “burrito” pretty often but should probably be taken more literally to mean something like “man-whore,” and it has homophobic undertones even if supporters of the chant defend it as an innocent insult. In the same way that the English “cocksucker” gets used by not-very-bright people as a catch-all insult for men, “puto” is an allegedly sexuality-neutral word that nevertheless works to reinforce traditional straight, masculine power. Whether or not the intent is there when it’s shouted on goal kicks, “puto” is a symbol of homophobia and a common insult experienced by gay men in Mexico, who I would think generally don’t want to hear it as they’re trying to enjoy and not get beat up at a sporting event.

So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


Team Mexico fans shouting their version of "burrito" at opposing players isn't Actually Bad!!!!


Where. Specifically. Did. Shim. Say. It. Isn't. Actually. Bad?!?

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if this were USMNT fans chanting burrito the outcry would be deafening. Its just that right now Mexicans are a pet class of the loony left and they can do no wrong as long as they keep in line with their (((masters))) plan.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
https://deadspin.com/oh-cool-were-doing-the-puto-controversy-again-1826936066

"Oh Cool, We're Doing The Puto Controversy Again"

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The word gets translated to “burrito” pretty often but should probably be taken more literally to mean something like “man-whore,” and it has homophobic undertones even if supporters of the chant defend it as an innocent insult. In the same way that the English “cocksucker” gets used by not-very-bright people as a catch-all insult for men, “puto” is an allegedly sexuality-neutral word that nevertheless works to reinforce traditional straight, masculine power. Whether or not the intent is there when it’s shouted on goal kicks, “puto” is a symbol of homophobia and a common insult experienced by gay men in Mexico, who I would think generally don’t want to hear it as they’re trying to enjoy and not get beat up at a sporting event.

So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


Team Mexico fans shouting their version of "burrito" at opposing players isn't Actually Bad!!!!


Idk if we read the same article.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
https://deadspin.com/oh-cool-were-doing-the-puto-controversy-again-1826936066

"Oh Cool, We're Doing The Puto Controversy Again"

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The word gets translated to “burrito” pretty often but should probably be taken more literally to mean something like “man-whore,” and it has homophobic undertones even if supporters of the chant defend it as an innocent insult. In the same way that the English “cocksucker” gets used by not-very-bright people as a catch-all insult for men, “puto” is an allegedly sexuality-neutral word that nevertheless works to reinforce traditional straight, masculine power. Whether or not the intent is there when it’s shouted on goal kicks, “puto” is a symbol of homophobia and a common insult experienced by gay men in Mexico, who I would think generally don’t want to hear it as they’re trying to enjoy and not get beat up at a sporting event.

So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


Team Mexico fans shouting their version of "burrito" at opposing players isn't Actually Bad!!!!


Where. Specifically. Did. Shim. Say. It. Isn't. Actually. Bad?!?


"Yeah, it would be great if fans of Mexico didnt shout a homophobic slur BUUUUUUUUUUUUT #Russia #Egypt #SomehowCrimea."

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I get it, probably don't want to bring the hammer down on Mexicans while our government is putting their children in concentration camps.

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https://deadspin.com/oh-cool-were-doing-the-puto-controversy-again-1826936066

"Oh Cool, We're Doing The Puto Controversy Again"

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The word gets translated to “burrito” pretty often but should probably be taken more literally to mean something like “man-whore,” and it has homophobic undertones even if supporters of the chant defend it as an innocent insult. In the same way that the English “cocksucker” gets used by not-very-bright people as a catch-all insult for men, “puto” is an allegedly sexuality-neutral word that nevertheless works to reinforce traditional straight, masculine power. Whether or not the intent is there when it’s shouted on goal kicks, “puto” is a symbol of homophobia and a common insult experienced by gay men in Mexico, who I would think generally don’t want to hear it as they’re trying to enjoy and not get beat up at a sporting event.

So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


Team Mexico fans shouting their version of "burrito" at opposing players isn't Actually Bad!!!!


Where. Specifically. Did. Shim. Say. It. Isn't. Actually. Bad?!?


"Yeah, it would be great if fans of Mexico didnt shout a homophobic slur BUUUUUUUUUUUUT #Russia #Egypt #SomehowCrimea."

Right there.

Where does it say "Yeah, it would be great if fans of Mexico didnt shout a homophobic slur BUUUUUUUUUUUUT #Russia #Egypt #SomehowCrimea."?

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FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
https://deadspin.com/oh-cool-were-doing-the-puto-controversy-again-1826936066

"Oh Cool, We're Doing The Puto Controversy Again"

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The word gets translated to “burrito” pretty often but should probably be taken more literally to mean something like “man-whore,” and it has homophobic undertones even if supporters of the chant defend it as an innocent insult. In the same way that the English “cocksucker” gets used by not-very-bright people as a catch-all insult for men, “puto” is an allegedly sexuality-neutral word that nevertheless works to reinforce traditional straight, masculine power. Whether or not the intent is there when it’s shouted on goal kicks, “puto” is a symbol of homophobia and a common insult experienced by gay men in Mexico, who I would think generally don’t want to hear it as they’re trying to enjoy and not get beat up at a sporting event.

So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


Team Mexico fans shouting their version of "burrito" at opposing players isn't Actually Bad!!!!


Where. Specifically. Did. Shim. Say. It. Isn't. Actually. Bad?!?


"Yeah, it would be great if fans of Mexico didnt shout a homophobic slur BUUUUUUUUUUUUT #Russia #Egypt #SomehowCrimea."

Right there.

Where does it say "Yeah, it would be great if fans of Mexico didnt shout a homophobic slur BUUUUUUUUUUUUT #Russia #Egypt #SomehowCrimea."?


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So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


This is literally "It's bad (but apparently not that bad because it's called 'harmless' one sentence later), but...."


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:41 pm 
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
https://deadspin.com/oh-cool-were-doing-the-puto-controversy-again-1826936066

"Oh Cool, We're Doing The Puto Controversy Again"

Quote:
The word gets translated to “burrito” pretty often but should probably be taken more literally to mean something like “man-whore,” and it has homophobic undertones even if supporters of the chant defend it as an innocent insult. In the same way that the English “cocksucker” gets used by not-very-bright people as a catch-all insult for men, “puto” is an allegedly sexuality-neutral word that nevertheless works to reinforce traditional straight, masculine power. Whether or not the intent is there when it’s shouted on goal kicks, “puto” is a symbol of homophobia and a common insult experienced by gay men in Mexico, who I would think generally don’t want to hear it as they’re trying to enjoy and not get beat up at a sporting event.

So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


Team Mexico fans shouting their version of "burrito" at opposing players isn't Actually Bad!!!!


Where. Specifically. Did. Shim. Say. It. Isn't. Actually. Bad?!?


"Yeah, it would be great if fans of Mexico didnt shout a homophobic slur BUUUUUUUUUUUUT #Russia #Egypt #SomehowCrimea."

Right there.

Where does it say "Yeah, it would be great if fans of Mexico didnt shout a homophobic slur BUUUUUUUUUUUUT #Russia #Egypt #SomehowCrimea."?


:roll:

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So yeah, it’d be cool if people didn’t yell it, since it’s already weird enough being a queer person in an aggressively masculine space like a high-profile men’s soccer game. There are procedures that referees can take if they hear the chant, though they weren’t followed in Sunday’s game. However, procedure aside, this years-long controversy is just getting exhausting, and it’s fair to wonder why FIFA is spending so much effort to try and eliminate a relatively harmless chant while ignoring larger anti-gay issues under its own nose, like the kidnapping and torturing of gay men in Chechnya, where the Egyptian national team is training.


This is literally "It's bad (but apparently not that bad because it's called 'harmless' one sentence later), but...."

This is a pretty bad misuse of the word literally.

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Hockey had an entire reckoning upon them because a couple drunk idiots chanted "basketball" at a black guy. You can have tens of thousands of people chant "cocksucker" and it's nbd because it could be worse.

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