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A number of the things that Bills referenced had very little to do with Lebron or Dan Bernstein either. They were actually criticisms of things unrelated to either person.


So he's a racist, and others are racism enablers?

Just to understand: posters can only talk about Bernstein in the "Bernstein section", and if you use a reference that originated with Bernstein in another way it's a problem.



I'm not interested in finding out what is in any poster's heart. I don't know and neither do you. What I will say is that there is a consistent pattern of making racially insensitive comments. If you are going to say that he doesn't then you are being disingenuous.



Here's what I don't get. You're so sensitive to what's "insensitive" only when it's your race. You'll fling around a charged term like "Innovators" (which I'm not sure is something that even exists, as most American Jews seem to be left leaning and sympathetic to people who want to destroy them rather than the continuation of their own existence) without the slightest realization of how "insensitive" doing so might be.

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By the guy that they are currently going out of their way to defend no less.


This board has a long tradition of never outing a mult so I'll simply say that you're most likely mistaken with that thought.


I don't care about whether anyone outs him or not as I am certain that it is him.



Well, you're as wrong about that as you are about so many other things.

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CH is a dyed in the wool liberal who listens to Chapo's TrapHouse but he is a self aware liberal. He is able to parody the shitty, smarmy, "woke" lingo used in blogs like Gawker. He is adept at parodying idiots on the Score, here and other outlets. He is a good poster and not a racist, and I know racists.


TrapHouse? Looking a little smarmy & woke yourself :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I don't think I ever called CH a racist.

I'm saying he has a FASCINATION.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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A number of the things that Bills referenced had very little to do with Lebron or Dan Bernstein either. They were actually criticisms of things unrelated to either person.


So he's a racist, and others are racism enablers?

Just to understand: posters can only talk about Bernstein in the "Bernstein section", and if you use a reference that originated with Bernstein in another way it's a problem.



I'm not interested in finding out what is in any poster's heart. I don't know and neither do you. What I will say is that there is a consistent pattern of making racially insensitive comments. If you are going to say that he doesn't then you are being disingenuous.



Here's what I don't get. You're so sensitive to what's "insensitive" only when it's your race. You'll fling around a charged term like "Innovators" (which I'm not sure is something that even exists, as most American Jews seem to be left leaning and sympathetic to people who want to destroy them rather than the continuation of their own existence) without the slightest realization of how "insensitive" doing so might be.



You are simply too ignorant about about this to really hold this discussion. There was a book written about the "Innovators". This isn't something that I made up. It actually is well known that there was a "Innovators. The points that I made about the Israeli State were also made by the guy considered the father of the Zionist movement. Is he also an Anti Semite? He also didn't wish for the Israeli State to be placed in the Middle East. Most Jewish people didn't wish for it to be placed in the Middle East at the turn of the century either. Are they anti Semites?

as I stated before you are too ignorant to hold this particular conversation and much of your information comes from propagandists like Ogie who distorts shit at every turn.

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long time guy wrote:
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long time guy wrote:
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A number of the things that Bills referenced had very little to do with Lebron or Dan Bernstein either. They were actually criticisms of things unrelated to either person.


So he's a racist, and others are racism enablers?

Just to understand: posters can only talk about Bernstein in the "Bernstein section", and if you use a reference that originated with Bernstein in another way it's a problem.



I'm not interested in finding out what is in any poster's heart. I don't know and neither do you. What I will say is that there is a consistent pattern of making racially insensitive comments. If you are going to say that he doesn't then you are being disingenuous.



Here's what I don't get. You're so sensitive to what's "insensitive" only when it's your race. You'll fling around a charged term like "Innovators" (which I'm not sure is something that even exists, as most American Jews seem to be left leaning and sympathetic to people who want to destroy them rather than the continuation of their own existence) without the slightest realization of how "insensitive" doing so might be.



You are simply too ignorant about about this to really hold this discussion. There was a book written about the "Innovators".


:lol: Great book, I'm sure. Have you read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

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long time guy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A number of the things that Bills referenced had very little to do with Lebron or Dan Bernstein either. They were actually criticisms of things unrelated to either person.


So he's a racist, and others are racism enablers?

Just to understand: posters can only talk about Bernstein in the "Bernstein section", and if you use a reference that originated with Bernstein in another way it's a problem.



I'm not interested in finding out what is in any poster's heart. I don't know and neither do you. What I will say is that there is a consistent pattern of making racially insensitive comments. If you are going to say that he doesn't then you are being disingenuous.



Here's what I don't get. You're so sensitive to what's "insensitive" only when it's your race. You'll fling around a charged term like "Innovators" (which I'm not sure is something that even exists, as most American Jews seem to be left leaning and sympathetic to people who want to destroy them rather than the continuation of their own existence) without the slightest realization of how "insensitive" doing so might be.



You are simply too ignorant about about this to really hold this discussion. There was a book written about the "Innovators". This isn't something that I made up. It actually is well known that there was a "Innovators. The points that I made about the Israeli State were also made by the guy considered the father of the Zionist movement. Is he also an Anti Semite? He also didn't wish for the Israeli State to be placed in the Middle East. Most Jewish people didn't wish for it to be placed in the Middle East at the turn of the century either. Are they anti Semites?

as I stated before you are too ignorant to hold this particular conversation and much of your information comes from propagandists like Ogie who distorts shit at every turn.


Didn't you throw a fit over someone saying "black [racism/homophobia]" or something like that? But you're perfectly fine throwing around "Innovators"....because other people have said it?

Would you agree that "Innovators" might be insensitive to Jewish people?


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CH is a dyed in the wool liberal who listens to Chapo's TrapHouse but he is a self aware liberal. He is able to parody the shitty, smarmy, "woke" lingo used in blogs like Gawker. He is adept at parodying idiots on the Score, here and other outlets. He is a good poster and not a racist, and I know racists.


TrapHouse? Looking a little smarmy & woke yourself :lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm a bit confused
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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long time guy wrote:
A number of the things that Bills referenced had very little to do with Lebron or Dan Bernstein either. They were actually criticisms of things unrelated to either person.


So he's a racist, and others are racism enablers?

Just to understand: posters can only talk about Bernstein in the "Bernstein section", and if you use a reference that originated with Bernstein in another way it's a problem.



I'm not interested in finding out what is in any poster's heart. I don't know and neither do you. What I will say is that there is a consistent pattern of making racially insensitive comments. If you are going to say that he doesn't then you are being disingenuous.



Here's what I don't get. You're so sensitive to what's "insensitive" only when it's your race. You'll fling around a charged term like "Innovators" (which I'm not sure is something that even exists, as most American Jews seem to be left leaning and sympathetic to people who want to destroy them rather than the continuation of their own existence) without the slightest realization of how "insensitive" doing so might be.


You said something similar to me a few weeks ago. It took seconds to prove it was wrong. Is this your new go to attack? If so you should probably find something else. It's cheap and ridiculous and I am confident that you would have an issue if something similar were said about you.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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long time guy wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
*MULTED*


By the guy that they are currently going out of their way to defend no less.


This board has a long tradition of never outing a mult so I'll simply say that you're most likely mistaken with that thought.


I don't care about whether anyone outs him or not as I am certain that it is him.



Well, you're as wrong about that as you are about so many other things.
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A number of the things that Bills referenced had very little to do with Lebron or Dan Bernstein either. They were actually criticisms of things unrelated to either person.


So he's a racist, and others are racism enablers?

Just to understand: posters can only talk about Bernstein in the "Bernstein section", and if you use a reference that originated with Bernstein in another way it's a problem.



I'm not interested in finding out what is in any poster's heart. I don't know and neither do you. What I will say is that there is a consistent pattern of making racially insensitive comments. If you are going to say that he doesn't then you are being disingenuous.



Here's what I don't get. You're so sensitive to what's "insensitive" only when it's your race. You'll fling around a charged term like "Innovators" (which I'm not sure is something that even exists, as most American Jews seem to be left leaning and sympathetic to people who want to destroy them rather than the continuation of their own existence) without the slightest realization of how "insensitive" doing so might be.



You are simply too ignorant about about this to really hold this discussion. There was a book written about the "Innovators". This isn't something that I made up. It actually is well known that there was a "Innovators. The points that I made about the Israeli State were also made by the guy considered the father of the Zionist movement. Is he also an Anti Semite? He also didn't wish for the Israeli State to be placed in the Middle East. Most Jewish people didn't wish for it to be placed in the Middle East at the turn of the century either. Are they anti Semites?

as I stated before you are too ignorant to hold this particular conversation and much of your information comes from propagandists like Ogie who distorts shit at every turn.


Didn't you throw a fit over someone saying "black [racism/homophobia]" or something like that? But you're perfectly fine throwing around "Innovators"....because other people have said it?

Would you agree that "Innovators" might be insensitive to Jewish people?


If a faction of Jewish people lobby in Washington then wouldn't that be a Innovators?

The term "Black Caucus" doesn't offend me either. Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators. There is a book titled Innovators and that particular Lobby is actually known in Washington Political circles. It wasn't just referred to that in this particular book either.

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If a faction of Jewish people lobby in Washington then wouldn't that be a Innovators?

The term "Black Caucus" doesn't offend me either. Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators. There is a book titled Innovators and that particular Lobby is actually known in Washington Political circles. It wasn't just referred to that in this particular book either.

Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.

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Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.
I've been to the Innovators and I have a history degree so you don't know what you are talking about.


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Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.
I've been to the Innovators and I have a history degree so you don't know what you are talking about.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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*MULTED*


By the guy that they are currently going out of their way to defend no less.


This board has a long tradition of never outing a mult so I'll simply say that you're most likely mistaken with that thought.


I don't care about whether anyone outs him or not as I am certain that it is him.



Well, you're as wrong about that as you are about so many other things.
You won't think I'm wrong when I meet you in the Innovators.



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Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.
I've been to the Innovators and I have a history degree so you don't know what you are talking about.

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If a faction of Jewish people lobby in Washington then wouldn't that be a Innovators?

The term "Black Caucus" doesn't offend me either. Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators. There is a book titled Innovators and that particular Lobby is actually known in Washington Political circles. It wasn't just referred to that in this particular book either.

Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.


No the title of the Book should be Israel Lobby and not Jewish. I referred to it as Innovators based on the book that I'd read a little. I will accept that. I mistakenly thought that the title was Innovators. I will own that.

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Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators.


What is different? And don't appeal to the authority of "other people say Innovators", because then that brings in what Ogie and JORR are talking about: Lots of anti-Semites use "Innovators", too.

So, aside from that, what makes "black [thing]" and "Innovators" different? Why is one insensitive and the other not? And do you see yet the lengths you will go to in order to insure that bigoted insensitivity only goes one particular way? Everyone else does, I'm sure.


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If a faction of Jewish people lobby in Washington then wouldn't that be a Innovators?

The term "Black Caucus" doesn't offend me either. Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators. There is a book titled Innovators and that particular Lobby is actually known in Washington Political circles. It wasn't just referred to that in this particular book either.

Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.



Yes but Innovators is anti semitic yet "black thing" isn't prejudiced and discriminatory. It is interesting that you and others that constantly defend this bullshit don't see the inconsistency in this.

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Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators.


What is different? And don't appeal to the authority of "other people say Innovators",


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Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators.


What is different? And don't appeal to the authority of "other people say Innovators", because then that brings in what Ogie and JORR are talking about: Lots of anti-Semites use "Innovators", too.

So, aside from that, what makes "black [thing]" and "Innovators" different? Why is one insensitive and the other not? And do you see yet the lengths you will go to in order to insure that bigoted insensitivity only goes one particular way? Everyone else does, I'm sure.



No as I explained before My frame of reference came from a book that I'd mistakenyly thought was titled Innovators. There is however an Israeli Lobby in this country. That is true.

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If a faction of Jewish people lobby in Washington then wouldn't that be a Innovators?

The term "Black Caucus" doesn't offend me either. Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators. There is a book titled Innovators and that particular Lobby is actually known in Washington Political circles. It wasn't just referred to that in this particular book either.

Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.



Yes but Innovators is anti semitic yet "black thing" isn't prejudiced and discriminatory. It is interesting that you and others that constantly defend this bullshit don't see the inconsistency in this.

"Innovators" has a long history of being used by antisemites going well back to "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" as part of the antisemitic trope that a small number of Jews are controlling the world. Seriously, get a fucking clue.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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If a faction of Jewish people lobby in Washington then wouldn't that be a Innovators?

The term "Black Caucus" doesn't offend me either. Black thing isn't the same thing as a Innovators. There is a book titled Innovators and that particular Lobby is actually known in Washington Political circles. It wasn't just referred to that in this particular book either.

Well the Congressional Black Caucus gave themselves that name (Rangel actually proposed that name) whereas "Innovators" is a name used in frequent antisemitic tropes when trying to paint a picture of Jewish control of the world. It's literally out of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" so yes it's antisemitic. From your postings, I'd guess "The Protocols" is one of your favorite reads.



Yes but Innovators is anti semitic yet "black thing" isn't prejudiced and discriminatory. It is interesting that you and others that constantly defend this bullshit don't see the inconsistency in this.

"Innovators" has a long history of being used by antisemites going well back to "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" as part of the antisemitic trope that a small number of Jews are controlling the world. Seriously, get a fucking clue.


Damn dude I'm granting you that.
Now answer this question. Is saying that something is a "black thing" racist, prejudiced, and discriminatory?

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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A number of the things that Bills referenced had very little to do with Lebron or Dan Bernstein either. They were actually criticisms of things unrelated to either person.


So he's a racist, and others are racism enablers?

Just to understand: posters can only talk about Bernstein in the "Bernstein section", and if you use a reference that originated with Bernstein in another way it's a problem.



I'm not interested in finding out what is in any poster's heart. I don't know and neither do you. What I will say is that there is a consistent pattern of making racially insensitive comments. If you are going to say that he doesn't then you are being disingenuous.



Here's what I don't get. You're so sensitive to what's "insensitive" only when it's your race. You'll fling around a charged term like "Innovators" (which I'm not sure is something that even exists, as most American Jews seem to be left leaning and sympathetic to people who want to destroy them rather than the continuation of their own existence) without the slightest realization of how "insensitive" doing so might be.


You said something similar to me a few weeks ago. It took seconds to prove it was wrong. Is this your new go to attack? If so you should probably find something else. It's cheap and ridiculous and I am confident that you would have an issue if something similar were said about you.


Because I'm not displaying a similar sensitivity regarding those with whom I identify while lacking same for others.

You understand very well that it's racist to state the fact that blacks commit far more crimes than whites and you understand why that's obviously the case. You understand that a guy saying, "I'm just stating a fact" doesn't change that. So explain to me how this is different.

And if you want to have a conversation, please don't characterize words as an "attack".

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