long time guy wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Can I have permission to post the PM chain we had where I specifically discussed my thoughts on your alleged antisemitism?
Yeah.
Ok:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Subject: For the record....long time guy wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Mac FM wrote:
I thought Nas was the board's administrator, spmack. If you have evidence I'm a bigot, do share.
Good luck getting people to actually post evidence they claim to have. (But I'm pretty sure spmack was joking)
When they provide evidence you will either ignore it or decide that it is necessary to argue about "response rates" and "self biasing sampling"
I don't want to derail a McNeil thread with our bullshit, so I'll say this here: Still waiting for you to post even one shred of evidence of the claims of racism you make against me. One shred.
long time guy wrote:
Can you provide one shred of evidence that i ever accused you of being racist?
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Can you provide one shred of evidence that i ever accused you of being racist?
Really man? You can't even extend to me in private the professional courtesy of not trying to act coy or clever? You know that's what you've been following me around the board trying to imply, there's no sense in denying it or trying to pretend you're not.
Now that we understand each other, I'm going to have to ask that you stop doing that, unless you can actually find—and post, go right ahead—evidence of me saying or being racist.
I am very tired of having my personal character impugned with regards to this, so again: Stop it, or find some evidence.
long time guy wrote:
You are asking me for evidence while at the same time referencing about implications.
You are the same guy that "implied" that i was anti Semitic.
Not once but twice. When I told you that I honestly didn't consider it you "implied" that i was lying about it. So forgive me for not giving a damn about impugning your character. You also attempted to hide behind it both times by referencing what "others might say".
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
You are asking me for evidence while at the same time referencing about implications.
LTG, you're not a dumb guy, come on. You know when to use implication over explicit statement, and you know relying on implication gives you a level of plausible deniability about those implications. Again, please extend me the courtesy of considering me also not a dumb guy, and able to identify and understand what you do and how you operate. And to that end, I again request you try to stop using either implication or explicit statement to say that I am a racist without also posting hard evidence.
long time guy wrote:
You are the same guy that "implied" that i was anti Semitic.
Not once but twice. When I told you that I honestly didn't consider it you "implied" that i was lying about it. So forgive me for not giving a damn about impugning your character. You also attempted to hide behind it both times by referencing what "others might say".
Honestly, I don't think you're anti-Semitic, I just twist your tail with that because I think it's funny, just like the "[x] more pages" meme. I don't know enough about the history of Israel to come to a conclusion either way, and while Ogie has his vociferous opinion of your stance, he is also the guy who openly wishes for police officers to get murdered, so his barometer may be a bit off.
If you'd like, as a token of good faith, I can openly state when it next comes up (or start a thread, I don't care) that I do not think you are an anti-Semite, and agree to stay away from that trolling in the future. I apologize for going a bit off the rails with it when it came up last.
long time guy wrote:
If you extend me that courtesy i will return serve. As an African American i'm sensitive when it comes to bigotry. It would be highly hypocritical of me to engage in that sort of behavior while bashing guys like Trump for it. That wouldn't be fair.
As far as Ogie goes he isn't the most objective when it comes to Israel either. I think I know why. He was IDF. While he is obviously knowledgable about Israel he is also biased.
He took an oath to defend Israel and it clouds his judgment in most instances. You see the same sort of bias when it comes to the police.
I will leave that alone if you agree to do so. I just don't like to play with that sort of thing.
I can go back and find the specific posts, but I kept my end of the bargain up until you, LTG, began implying I am a bigot, repeatedly. At that point I no longer felt obliged to honor my offered truce.