The science is settled.

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Their hypothesis is built around the concept that FTL travel requires the bending of space-time, which in turn requires that level of energy.

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I have always believed that there is likely life out there but that anyone who thinks they've visited us just saw something else. I still think that, but that documentary "Unacknowledged" is at least thought-provoking.

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If you asked a person in 1900 if you could travel from New York to Chicago in 2 hours they would have similar skepticism. It would require methods incomparable to any technology we can even dream of right now though.

The theory you mention also has the component that if a civilization did break through they would be so far advanced they could avoid detection or make the detection impossible for the subjects to explain just like if you were to send a drone into a jungle. The primates would just think it's a bird or a bug.

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Isn't that just one hypothesis of MANY concerning FTL travel?

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Careful Rick. I’d hate to see you Roseanne’d from the board .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Here is the problem with the above line of thinking...we have only had the technology to search for intelligent life for the past 50 years. We are assuming other intelligent life is on the timeline as us, technology wise.

Who is to say, six hundred thousand years ago, another species either contacted earth via radio transmission, or actually perhaps landed on the planet, saw only Homo erectus species, determined they had no way to interact(intelligently) and left? 600K years is a minuscule measure of time in terms of the entire universe.

We are still finding new species on Earth. We tend to overrate our knowledge.

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Top 10 post of the year possibility.

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It's a mathematical certainty there is intelligent life in this universe. That's just reality. Time, in traditional sense here (Earth time) is irrelevant. We dismiss the possibly of intelligent life because we are bound by this time restriction, think out of sight, out of mind....if we can solve time travel, this will open everything up.

I think now the target, rather than just trying to travel at FTL, is to bend space time. Which many believe is a reality.

Agreed! Good job, Rick! Knowledge is all relative.

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You're a vet, our military has had many interactions.. It's a fact

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This.

Light speed travel, even if possible, really doesn't solve any of the distance problems

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

You're employing that phrase inappropriately, as math (what 'math' btw) has nothing to do with proving or disproving 'life' (or at least within the bounds of our likely limited way we are capable of defining it), nor is it certainty.

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- Henry George

No, I'm correct.

math explains everything there is, and odds are its basically impossible were alone.

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What math?

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ITT: Caller Bob theorizes about warp drive.

Forget travel...even communication is a challenge. Carl Sagan had a great concept...that an intelligent life form would send out sequences of prime numbers, which would have to be interpreted as coming from an intelligent being since there is no astrophysical phenomenon that would send out pulses in that pattern. However, one of the issues is what wavelength/frequency to send. It would be like us trying to communicate with ants.

I think there is virtually no chance we are alone in the universe. But the universe is so mind-boggling large, even if there are thousands of planets with life, we'll never find out.

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That was just the government.

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