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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:42 am 
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Houston is going to continue to boom in petrochemical-derived products (like the little pellets used in manufacturing processes) and in logistics.

Is it still a paved-over floodplain with no urban planning? I'm sure that will never pose issues ever again.

Houston might be the most soulless city I've ever travelled to.

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One Post - i just talked to my sister. she lives in Pearland Tx. I guess it's a suburb.


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One Post - i just talked to my sister. she lives in Pearland Tx. I guess it's a suburb.


Yes, suburb. One of the larger suburbs, maybe comparable to Arlington Heights.


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OnePost : I'm intruged about Galveston now. But when bad weather or hurricane hits I guess it's the worst place to be?


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OnePost : I'm intruged about Galveston now. But when bad weather or hurricane hits I guess it's the worst place to be?

No worse than living on a volcano when it is erupting.

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Read about how Galveston was basically destroyed at the turn of the century.

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OnePost : I'm intruged about Galveston now. But when bad weather or hurricane hits I guess it's the worst place to be?

No worse than living on a volcano when it is erupting.


I moved off that island like 4 years ago. But where I was living was on the other side I woudln't be affected. But there have been earthquakes and air quality has been bad. There's lot of land still on the SW part of the big island yet to be developed. You can actually build a home there but there will be no plumbing or sewage system.


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OnePost : I'm intruged about Galveston now. But when bad weather or hurricane hits I guess it's the worst place to be?


During a wind event, think Hurricane Ike, bad news for Galveston.

The island does remarkably well in rain events, think Hurricane Harvey.


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I actually think Houston has a lot in common with Chicago

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Can you elaborate? They seem very different to me. Maybe they both have a city-of-neighborhoods thing going, but Houston seems to lack the density, order, and beauty of Chicago. Even Chicago's bad neighborhoods still have lovely housing stock -- you can imagine it being better without trying hard. That doesn't seem to be the case in most southeastern cities. I know Pensacola and Orlando get shabby in a hurry.

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I was the typical liberal until I landed in Texas. It's a great state. The GDP of California might be higher but Texas is in fact the backbone of this country in most every way, outside of entertainment. I didn't realize how amazing the history of the state was until I read Empire of the Summer Moon about the last Comanche. Texas has always been no bullshit. The Texas Rangers just eventually decided that no matter what the Washington DC policy was towards Natives, these particular Natives could not be reasoned with. They were right. Their leader basically admitted as much. The closest thing to the Spartans that existed since they did.

I can't say I'd choose to live there but it is a truly compelling and even magical state, in some parts. The Texas panhandle is one of the more dynamic and extreme areas of the country in terms of weather and geography. I had a very good friend who live in Houston and the issues sounded a lot like Chicago, just essentially on the Gulf. And that was before the hurricane that displaced thousands in New Orleans so I doubt it has gotten any better.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Houston is going to continue to boom in petrochemical-derived products (like the little pellets used in manufacturing processes) and in logistics.

Is it still a paved-over floodplain with no urban planning? I'm sure that will never pose issues ever again.

Still no zoning. I've been there for work about ten times in the last three years, and there's been flooding 1/3 of the time.

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I actually think Houston has a lot in common with Chicago


I disagree. One city developed largely pre- automobile, the other was developed to essentially facilitate automobile traffic. Sure they have some alignment, but very different cities.


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Curious Hair wrote:
Can you elaborate? They seem very different to me. Maybe they both have a city-of-neighborhoods thing going, but Houston seems to lack the density, order, and beauty of Chicago. Even Chicago's bad neighborhoods still have lovely housing stock -- you can imagine it being better without trying hard. That doesn't seem to be the case in most southeastern cities. I know Pensacola and Orlando get shabby in a hurry.


That's the thing of it for me. I don't think that Chicago has had order or citizen focused planning in over 30 years, like Houston. But you kind of hit it on the head. Houston has a very diverse culture, really good food, and unlike other New South cities, a fairly big city feel, beyond just horrible traffic.

Like Chicago, Houston really doesn't have anything special to attract tourism but inspires a lot of loyalty in it's generally better off residents.

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I was the typical liberal until I landed in Texas. It's a great state. The GDP of California might be higher but Texas is in fact the backbone of this country in most every way, outside of entertainment. I didn't realize how amazing the history of the state was until I read Empire of the Summer Moon about the last Comanche. Texas has always been no bullshit. The Texas Rangers just eventually decided that no matter what the Washington DC policy was towards Natives, these particular Natives could not be reasoned with. They were right. Their leader basically admitted as much. The closest thing to the Spartans that existed since they did.

That's definitely in my top fifty books of all time. Can't say enough. It's a book about both Indians (Comanche, especially) and Texas. Had no idea about most of the Texas history and how Mexico encouraged white settlers to create a buffer between them and the Comanche.


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Curious Hair wrote:
Can you elaborate? They seem very different to me. Maybe they both have a city-of-neighborhoods thing going, but Houston seems to lack the density, order, and beauty of Chicago. Even Chicago's bad neighborhoods still have lovely housing stock -- you can imagine it being better without trying hard. That doesn't seem to be the case in most southeastern cities. I know Pensacola and Orlando get shabby in a hurry.


That's the thing of it for me. I don't think that Chicago has had order or citizen focused planning in over 30 years, like Houston. But you kind of hit it on the head. Houston has a very diverse culture, really good food, and unlike other New South cities, a fairly big city feel, beyond just horrible traffic.

Like Chicago, Houston really doesn't have anything special to attract tourism but inspires a lot of loyalty in it's generally better off residents.


I will agree with you on the diversity point. Conventional wisdom is that Houston is the most diverse city in the world.

But from an urbanization/density perspective, Chicago is just way more dense.


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I need more information about the flooding. Does the whole city/suburbs flood with a big rain fall or is it just some parts of the city , low lying areas more closer to the Gulf?


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I guess my perspective on Houston's density is skewed by the feeling of being in rush hour congestion seemingly around the clock on the expressways there.

And that most of the south side isn't nearly as dense as the north side

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Conventional wisdom is that Houston is the most diverse city in the world.

I've heard that about Toronto. Mostly from people from Toronto.

At least we've kept Houston out of the NHL so far. That would be an even bigger disaster than Atlanta.

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I guess my perspective on Houston's density is skewed by the feeling of being in rush hour congestion seemingly around the clock on the expressways there.

And that most of the south side isn't nearly as dense as the north side



The lack of density, propensity towards the automobile is what causes all that FUBAR traffic.


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Curious Hair wrote:
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Conventional wisdom is that Houston is the most diverse city in the world.

I've heard that about Toronto. Mostly from people from Toronto.

At least we've kept Houston out of the NHL so far. That would be an even bigger disaster than Atlanta.



Lots of thought down here that hockey could thrive.

1. Houston Aeros generated lots of goodwill
2. Corporate money (duh)
3. Nobody is from Houston, lots of fans here buying tix to see the visiting team.


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1. The Aeros got evicted and moved to Des Moines because the Rockets found better things to do with the home dates
2. yes
3. As I was saying about Atlanta...

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1. The Aeros got evicted and moved to Des Moines because the Rockets found better things to do with the home dates
2. yes
3. As I was saying about Atlanta...


WHA Aeros dipshit.


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tell me more about the flooding? does it happen every place?

I looked at where my sister lives. Man oh man, you can get a nice big house for around $250K.

I don't need a big home. Just a simple place which probably I can get at a really good price if a big place is around 200ish.

Now I'm thinking I should have moved over there like 5-10 years ago.

What do I need to do to avoid flooding areas?


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tell me more about the flooding? does it happen every place?

I looked at where my sister lives. Man oh man, you can get a nice big house for around $250K.

I don't need a big home. Just a simple place which probably I can get at a really good price if a big place is around 200ish.

Now I'm thinking I should have moved over there like 5-10 years ago.

What do I need to do to avoid flooding areas?


If there is a prolonged rain event, then plenty of places here flood. Best way to determine if a property is prone to flood is to research the flood history of a neighborhood. I believe DPS or other state agencies have this on record.

If a house/property didn’t flood in the past five years with the shit that happened here, then absent infrastructure changes, it isn’t flooding ever.


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tell me more about the flooding? does it happen every place?

I looked at where my sister lives. Man oh man, you can get a nice big house for around $250K.

I don't need a big home. Just a simple place which probably I can get at a really good price if a big place is around 200ish.

Now I'm thinking I should have moved over there like 5-10 years ago.

What do I need to do to avoid flooding areas?


If there is a prolonged rain event, then plenty of places here flood. Best way to determine if a property is prone to flood is to research the flood history of a neighborhood. I believe DPS or other state agencies have this on record.

If a house/property didn’t flood in the past five years with the shit that happened here, then absent infrastructure changes, it isn’t flooding ever.


when you bought your place did you research flooding? If I had say tried to buy 5 years ago i probably would have never brought it up or thought about it. Thanks for the heads up.


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One post just let HY stay at your place....think of the stories you could share with us here.

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HawaiiYou wrote:
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tell me more about the flooding? does it happen every place?

I looked at where my sister lives. Man oh man, you can get a nice big house for around $250K.

I don't need a big home. Just a simple place which probably I can get at a really good price if a big place is around 200ish.

Now I'm thinking I should have moved over there like 5-10 years ago.

What do I need to do to avoid flooding areas?


If there is a prolonged rain event, then plenty of places here flood. Best way to determine if a property is prone to flood is to research the flood history of a neighborhood. I believe DPS or other state agencies have this on record.

If a house/property didn’t flood in the past five years with the shit that happened here, then absent infrastructure changes, it isn’t flooding ever.


when you bought your place did you research flooding? If I had say tried to buy 5 years ago i probably would have never brought it up or thought about it. Thanks for the heads up.


HY, honestly we did not. We bought our house in 2013, which was prior to this last spate of flooding. Our neighborhood is 100 years old though, so that bodes well for being averse to flooding. We do not have flood insurance if that tells you anything.

If I were to buy a place today, I definitely would look into it regardless of the age of the neighborhood.


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