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 Post subject: Re: America
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:37 pm 
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As long as no one is racist against the Irish, I think they are more than welcome to post here.


When did Irish become a race?

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Veering into predictable racist posts is one thing, but this place was built on shit talking and disrespect.



Far different than racism is shit posting.

I see Steve is still here. I guess we are picking and choosing now?

He is the most racist fucking pig on this site.



Find me a racist post from Steve since we took over the site.

Cmon don't be a fucking idiot, you know as well as I do what he is about. I don't need to find a post of when you took over when everyone and their fucking mother knows he's a racist fucking bitch.



Are you suggesting a message board take on a mission to eradicate racists? I somehow don't think that's possible.

Unlike America and Toxic, Steve was wise enough to comply with requests to modify his behavior.

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LTG-

This place is not a business. And if it is it's not making any money.


It still takes money to run it. Since it technically isn't a "business" then i'm sure you'd be happy to invest in whatever the hell it happens to be big shooter.

This is also a stupid comment. Businesses do not need to turn a profit in order to still be considered a business.


It's a hobby. Clearly. It takes money to run a remote control car. Is that a business? As for the rest, settle down.



Again you sound stupid. Number of businesses don't maje money. They are still a business if the objective is to make money. Since it is a hobby then i'm sure you'd have no problem partaking in said hobby. They invested their bread in it and last time i checked you didn't. You have no skin in the game and this site ain't exactly community property though some act as if it is. I have no problem with ever deferring to people with actual skin in the game. That ain't you unless you can demonstrate that you do.

You're just a dude with an opinion and a bad one at that.


Who said the objective is to make money? That would define it as a business. I see no active attempt to make money. Sorry you are upset and feel like you have to say -you are stupid as your argument. It's basically the only thing posters who disagree with me have because they certainly don't have facts on their side.


No if they make money then it is a business. Making money doesn't necessarily mean turning a profit either.

Also and more importantly is that they invested their money. When BigFan was going to shut the site down they stepped up. Nothing else matters and is conjecture. Regardless of whether it is overly successful or not they are still running a business.

They have a right to make the call and not people who are self professed free speech advocates. That is my point. It is their investment and to be honest they have been extremely democratic.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Free Ajent wrote:
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Veering into predictable racist posts is one thing, but this place was built on shit talking and disrespect.



Far different than racism is shit posting.

I see Steve is still here. I guess we are picking and choosing now?

He is the most racist fucking pig on this site.



Find me a racist post from Steve since we took over the site.

Cmon don't be a fucking idiot, you know as well as I do what he is about. I don't need to find a post of when you took over when everyone and their fucking mother knows he's a racist fucking bitch.



Are you suggesting a message board take on a mission to eradicate racists? I somehow don't think that's possible.

Unlike America and Toxic, Steve was wise enough to comply with requests to modify his behavior.


Well I guess that's what you're trying to do, get rid of the racist so I just noted that Steve was still here. We all know his thoughts we don't need him to keep posting it to know what he's about. Again, ignore the fucking posts if you don't like what is being said, not sure how hard that is to understand. And to the people who are complaining , tell them to do the same thing. Bunch of whining little snitches, we aren't fucking 5 years old here.

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No if they make money then it is a business. Making money doesn't necessarily mean turning a profit either.

Also and more importantly is that they invested their money. When BigFan was going to shut the site down they stepped up. Nothing else matters and is conjecture. Regardless of whether it is overly successful or not they are still running a business.


How are they "making money" on the site in your opinion? Or even trying to? At most they could sell the URL and hopefully make a profit later.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Veering into predictable racist posts is one thing, but this place was built on shit talking and disrespect.



Far different than racism is shit posting.

I see Steve is still here. I guess we are picking and choosing now?

He is the most racist fucking pig on this site.



Find me a racist post from Steve since we took over the site.


So are you saying BigFan brought out the racism in Steve?


How did you logically infer that from what I posted?


Steve doesn't seem like the type to just take orders.

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I'm actually not. I transcend race.

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he was a racist for sure but i dont think he should have been batted.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Free Ajent wrote:
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Free Ajent wrote:
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Jbi11s wrote:
Veering into predictable racist posts is one thing, but this place was built on shit talking and disrespect.



Far different than racism is shit posting.

I see Steve is still here. I guess we are picking and choosing now?

He is the most racist fucking pig on this site.



Find me a racist post from Steve since we took over the site.

Cmon don't be a fucking idiot, you know as well as I do what he is about. I don't need to find a post of when you took over when everyone and their fucking mother knows he's a racist fucking bitch.



Are you suggesting a message board take on a mission to eradicate racists? I somehow don't think that's possible.

Unlike America and Toxic, Steve was wise enough to comply with requests to modify his behavior.


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Well I guess that's what you're trying to do, get rid of the racist so I just noted that Steve was still here. We all know his thoughts we don't need him to keep posting it to know what he's about. Again, ignore the fucking posts if you don't like what is being said, not sure how hard that is to understand. And to the people who are complaining , tell them to do the same thing. Bunch of whining little snitches, we aren't fucking 5 years old here.


Have you read anything that I've posted? You can't IGNORE THE POSTS WHEN THEY ARE REPOSTED.

STEVE CHOSE TO KEEP HIS RACISM TO HIMSELF ABD BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHER POSTERS>

AMERICA AND TOXIC CHOSE NOT TO.

If you can't understand that, then I'm out of responses for you

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Seacrest wrote:
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Veering into predictable racist posts is one thing, but this place was built on shit talking and disrespect.



Far different than racism is shit posting.

I see Steve is still here. I guess we are picking and choosing now?

He is the most racist fucking pig on this site.



Find me a racist post from Steve since we took over the site.


So are you saying BigFan brought out the racism in Steve?


How did you logically infer that from what I posted?


Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Steve doesn't seem like the type to just take orders.


Who said it was an order?

America claimed he was threatened when JORR said please. :lol:

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this site is making like a mil plus a year. it is a sensible decision when you look at it from a business sense.


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Have you read anything that I've posted? You can't IGNORE THE POSTS WHEN THEY ARE REPOSTED.

STEVE CHOSE TO KEEP HIS RACISM TO HIMSELF ABD BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHER POSTERS>

AMERICA AND TOXIC CHOSE NOT TO.

If you can't understand that, then I'm out of responses for you


You can still ignore the fucking post DO YOU FUCKING READ WHAT I JUST FUCKING POSTED???

You don't need to have someone on ignore to only ignore their posts. Plenty of times i glance over a post and see who it was from and choose to ignore it.

Who gives a fuck if they are openly racist, Steve did the same shit, sure it was before but the same fucking people from when it was Big Branes bored are pretty much the same ones here now.

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Not me. I hate everybody equally.

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Who said it was an order?

America claimed he was threatened when JORR said please. :lol:


To be honest it looked like America was struggling and living a lot of his life online. Hope he's alright.

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No if they make money then it is a business. Making money doesn't necessarily mean turning a profit either.

Also and more importantly is that they invested their money. When BigFan was going to shut the site down they stepped up. Nothing else matters and is conjecture. Regardless of whether it is overly successful or not they are still running a business.


How are they "making money" on the site in your opinion? Or even trying to? At most they could sell the URL and hopefully make a profit later.



Again if you don't know the difference between making money and turning a profit then i don't know what to tell you.

Do you think this is a not for profit thing they have going? Apparently you act as if is. Also it doesn't matter if they invest 10 cent or 10,000 it is still their investment.

If they aren't running a not for profit then they are engaged in business. Simple as that. I'm not interested in whether they are making money or how they make money. It is still a business.

To say that it isn't a business simply because they aren't turning a profit is stupid since 90% -95% of the businesses in this country don't turn a profit. Still doesn't mean that they aren't a business.

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Is America allowed back if he contacts one of you three and expresses the desire to be allowed back?


What kind of board do you want? I'm going to speak for myself personally here, I don't give a fuck what anyone says here. I'm not going to be offended.

But when it becomes a problem is when you have a large group of regular posters complaining in PMs or in Facebook groups about the content that is allowed to exist on the board. And you know what I'm talking about. I was even accused of fostering the environment which is bullshit.

So what do you want? Should we allow everyone to say whatever they want and just have people whine about it in private or should it be addressed? I'm sincerely interested in the answer. We certainly haven't acted like this is "our board, our rules, go fuck yourself if you don't like it."

America knew what he wrote was unacceptable. If you want him back I'm curious as to why. And if we were to let him back due to popular consensus I wouldn't expect to read any complaints about racism on Facebook going forward. It's kind of hard to have it both ways.

I agree he knew what he wrote was unacceptable. I’m fine with banning or suspending anyone who after warning says things as explicitly racist as “black people are trash” or use racial slurs. Most normal people don’t want to read that shit, understandably.

My question was moreso is this permanent or is it more of a severe warning where he can be allowed back and then permabanned if he goes back to spouting explicitly bigoted shit. A fool me once kinda thing.

Understand I’m not JLN and demanding answers here. I’m stoned and watching this pretty boring all star game and curious.

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the management who bought it from bigfan bought it for what 500k? they are not dumb people. you think they aren't making a pretty dime with this site? smart guys.


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Free Ajent wrote:
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Have you read anything that I've posted? You can't IGNORE THE POSTS WHEN THEY ARE REPOSTED.

STEVE CHOSE TO KEEP HIS RACISM TO HIMSELF ABD BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHER POSTERS>

AMERICA AND TOXIC CHOSE NOT TO.

If you can't understand that, then I'm out of responses for you


You can still ignore the fucking post DO YOU FUCKING READ WHAT I JUST FUCKING POSTED???

You don't need to have someone on ignore to only ignore their posts. Plenty of times i glance over a post and see who it was from and choose to ignore it.

Who gives a fuck if they are openly racist, Steve did the same shit, sure it was before but the same fucking people from when it was Big Branes bored are pretty much the same ones here now.



Take up what Steve did with Bigfan.

And you care that Steve is a racist because you keep bringing it up. :wink:

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No if they make money then it is a business. Making money doesn't necessarily mean turning a profit either.

Also and more importantly is that they invested their money. When BigFan was going to shut the site down they stepped up. Nothing else matters and is conjecture. Regardless of whether it is overly successful or not they are still running a business.


How are they "making money" on the site in your opinion? Or even trying to? At most they could sell the URL and hopefully make a profit later.



Again if you don't the difference between making money and turning a profit then i don't know what to tell you.

Do you think this is a not for profit thing they have going? Apparently you act as if is. Also it doesn't matter if they invest 10 cent or 10,000 it is still their investment.

If they aren't running a not for profit then they are engaged in business. Simple as that. I'm not interested in whether they are making money or how they make money. It is still a business.

To say that it isn't a business simply because they aren't turning a profit is stupid since 90% -95% of the businesses in this country don't turn a profit. Still doesn't mean that they aren't a business.

See Seacrest I can glance over shit like this and many others who go back and forth on dumb ass topics and just ignore it and move on about my day.

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I think everyone is at least a little bit racist.

Without a doubt. We're all biased. (I guess it depends on how you define "racism.") But yes.

The issues for me (because it's all about me) are that several cool people seem to have left, including Nas and Apologist (not sure why Chus left), and TM and America were both intentionally self-destructive, so who cares? Too bad, too, because sometimes I agreed with what they said or at least could appreciate their anger. I also don't want to be associated with certain phrases; Internet people are lunatics and finding work is hard enough.


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Who said it was an order?

America claimed he was threatened when JORR said please. :lol:


To be honest it looked like America was struggling and living a lot of his like online. Hope he's alright.



Agreed.

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If America did that he's a fucking idiot. Your comment earlier implied that you ordered Steve to not being a racist douchebag or he'd be gone.

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No if they make money then it is a business. Making money doesn't necessarily mean turning a profit either.

Also and more importantly is that they invested their money. When BigFan was going to shut the site down they stepped up. Nothing else matters and is conjecture. Regardless of whether it is overly successful or not they are still running a business.


How are they "making money" on the site in your opinion? Or even trying to? At most they could sell the URL and hopefully make a profit later.



Again if you don't the difference between making money and turning a profit then i don't know what to tell you.

Do you think this is a not for profit thing they have going? Apparently you act as if is. Also it doesn't matter if they invest 10 cent or 10,000 it is still their investment.

If they aren't running a not for profit then they are engaged in business. Simple as that. I'm not interested in whether they are making money or how they make money. It is still a business.

To say that it isn't a business simply because they aren't turning a profit is stupid since 90% -95% of the businesses in this country don't turn a profit. Still doesn't mean that they aren't a business.

See Seacrest I can glance over shit like this and many others who go back and forth on dumb ass topics and just ignore it and move on about my day.


Congratulations.

But you see everyone can't do that.

Nor should they have to.

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If America did that he's a fucking idiot. Your comment earlier implied that you ordered Steve to not being a racist douchebag or he'd be gone.



No it most certainly did not.

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the management who bought it from bigfan bought it for what 500k? they are not dumb people. you think they aren't making a pretty dime with this site? smart guys.

500K?! Dr Ken does not own this site.

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No if they make money then it is a business. Making money doesn't necessarily mean turning a profit either.

Also and more importantly is that they invested their money. When BigFan was going to shut the site down they stepped up. Nothing else matters and is conjecture. Regardless of whether it is overly successful or not they are still running a business.


How are they "making money" on the site in your opinion? Or even trying to? At most they could sell the URL and hopefully make a profit later.



Again if you don't know the difference between making money and turning a profit then i don't know what to tell you.

Do you think this is a not for profit thing they have going? Apparently you act as if is. Also it doesn't matter if they invest 10 cent or 10,000 it is still their investment.

If they aren't running a not for profit then they are engaged in business. Simple as that. I'm not interested in whether they are making money or how they make money. It is still a business.

To say that it isn't a business simply because they aren't turning a profit is stupid since 90% -95% of the businesses in this country don't turn a profit. Still doesn't mean that they aren't a business.


You really don't know what a business is. It's pretty hilarious to watch. And I don't know what point you are trying to make. Find a pool party and relax. https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=r ... cago%2C+IL

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Is America allowed back if he contacts one of you three and expresses the desire to be allowed back?


What kind of board do you want? I'm going to speak for myself personally here, I don't give a fuck what anyone says here. I'm not going to be offended.

But when it becomes a problem is when you have a large group of regular posters complaining in PMs or in Facebook groups about the content that is allowed to exist on the board. And you know what I'm talking about. I was even accused of fostering the environment which is bullshit.

So what do you want? Should we allow everyone to say whatever they want and just have people whine about it in private or should it be addressed? I'm sincerely interested in the answer. We certainly haven't acted like this is "our board, our rules, go fuck yourself if you don't like it."

America knew what he wrote was unacceptable. If you want him back I'm curious as to why. And if we were to let him back due to popular consensus I wouldn't expect to read any complaints about racism on Facebook going forward. It's kind of hard to have it both ways.

I agree he knew what he wrote was unacceptable. I’m fine with banning or suspending anyone who after warning says things as explicitly racist as “black people are trash” or use racial slurs. Most normal people don’t want to read that shit, understandably.

My question was moreso is this permanent or is it more of a severe warning where he can be allowed back and then permabanned if he goes back to spouting explicitly bigoted shit. A fool me once kinda thing.

Understand I’m not JLN and demanding answers here. I’m stoned and watching this pretty boring all star game and curious.


Do you know him off the board?

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I don't think many of the newbies get it. Many of the long timers have become friends and look at the board as a way to interact with friends. And this as a form of entertainment or relaxation. Not what it's been over the last year.

Personally, Nas and I got into it years ago, as did Seacrest and I. Hell JORR and I haven't agreed philosophically in 18 months, but we're all good friends who respect each other. I don't agree with MANY here, but I'd still like to have a brew summit with most of them.

Unless they figure it's "fun" to take racial shots.

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