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Some people want to be martyrs.

Agreed. It sucks guys like TM and America took that route.


Yep. It's pretty thankless being an admin.

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Some people want to be martyrs.

Agreed. It sucks guys like TM and America took that route.


Yep. It's pretty thankless being an admin.


That's right. Keep kissing ass, so the next time the secret FB group has a vote to decide who is banned it won't be you.

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Jbi11s wrote:
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Some people want to be martyrs.

Agreed. It sucks guys like TM and America took that route.


Yep. It's pretty thankless being an admin.


That's right. Keep kissing ass, so the next time the secret FB group has a vote to decide who is banned it won't be you.


Go ahead and vote me out. I just say I what I think. And I know that the racial police meet on Facebook or send PMs here. Luckily the dumbest of you are not in charge here.

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where is this secret FB group? is it just the investors that are part of it?


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where is this secret FB group? is it just the investors that are part of it?

Sometimes an investment is more than just money, so yes.

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First they deleted certain posts
Then they banned certain posters
Finally....?

I have no horse in this race but I'm not a fan of banning no matter how much stupid shit you say. Ignore and move the fuck on. It was only a matter of time before they turned into Big Brane.



Couldn't have said it better.

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First they deleted certain posts
Then they banned certain posters
Finally....?

I have no horse in this race but I'm not a fan of banning no matter how much stupid shit you say. Ignore and move the fuck on. It was only a matter of time before they turned into Big Brane.



Couldn't have said it better.



Agree. I come here to relax. not take things too seriously. just shoot the breeze. i know some take it too serious. that's why i dont' like the politics section or any politics. it's suppose to be a fun site. not a fucking site like cnn vs fox.


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Neither one of those guys ever says anything close to the crap America was spouting. Stop trying to draw a dumb comparison.

And America obviously wanted some kind of reaction. He got it. I hope he's happy.

He wanted out of here before the Hahn rebuild fails.


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So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?


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So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?



What kind of board do you want? Let me guess- one where you can complain like a motherfucker. Congratulations, you have it.

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So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?



What kind of board do you want? Let me guess- one where you can complain like a motherfucker. Congratulations, you have it.


I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions. How right you were when you said "The Community" now runs things here.

And that's fine, it's your board (or, was). But can we get a definitive posting of the rules now that two members have been banned fo violating a rules policy dictated by others, one which nobody has seen?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions.


You have one like that. There are three guys who make these decisions. I'm not sure where you're getting this "shadow-run" crap, but we've done our best to consider the wishes of the users and you are one of them. And we argue about this stuff among ourselves. I would say the three of us are all very different and I think it would be difficult for you to argue that we- as a collective- are less than reasonable. I understand that there are those who support a completely unmoderated forum. I fall into that camp myself as you apparently do. But it's pretty obvious that a majority of members don't feel that way, and some of them have made it eminently clear by posting much less or stepping away from the board entirely. Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."

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But can we get a definitive posting of the rules now that two members have been banned fo violating a rules policy dictated by others, one which nobody has seen?


Yeah, when you are PMed by Seacrest the third or fourth time to stop making racially inflammatory posts and you refuse to stop, you might be banned. Is that clear enough for you?

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America's crime was he used the "f word" too much for the admin's liking and the nail in the coffin was the "black people are trash" comment.

Caller Bob is way worse than America as far as crude content. I don't know what the fuck JORR is talking about.


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I just want to know who reports the most posts?

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I just want to know who reports the most posts?

JLN.

No doubt.

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I just want to know who reports the most posts?

JLN.

No doubt.


I'd lay odds on chas...seems like he went full snitch...

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I just want to know who reports the most posts?

JLN.

No doubt.


I'd lay odds on chas...seems like he went full snitch...


Um no. Not me even though I get blamed all the time. I get PMs from Crest just like America and Toxic did.

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America's crime was he used the "f word" too much for the admin's liking and the nail in the coffin was the "black people are trash" comment.

Caller Bob is way worse than America as far as crude content. I don't know what the fuck JORR is talking about.



I don't know what you're talking about. Nobody got bounced for being crude. I can be as crude as anyone and I often am.

But let me tell you this, and you're a great guy to use as an example. This has never come up in a discussion between Seacrest, Nas, and me, but if it ever did I know what my position would be. You say a lot of questionable shit, but there's simply a different quality to it than the stuff posted by those that are no longer here. You might use the same words as somebody else and it would just come off as goofy and funny rather than as vitriolic and mean. And I guess that's a judgment that we have to make and I know that isn't satisfactory for someone like JLN who apparently wants a Constitution of the Chicago Fanatics Message Board, but it's probably as good as you're going to get. And before anyone does get banned they have plenty of fair warning and the ability to avoid the situation is in their own hands. It's not like anyone has ever been on a short leash here. I think that's more than fair.

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I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions.


You have one like that. There are three guys who make these decisions. I'm not sure where you're getting this "shadow-run" crap, but we've done our best to consider the wishes of the users and you are one of them. And we argue about this stuff among ourselves. I would say the three of us are all very different and I think it would be difficult for you to argue that we- as a collective- are less than reasonable. I understand that there are those who support a completely unmoderated forum. I fall into that camp myself as you apparently do. But it's pretty obvious that a majority of members don't feel that way, and some of them have made it eminently clear by posting much less or stepping away from the board entirely.


I want consistency. It was you who proudly stated that the moderators would stay out of policing the content of posts, that offensive or inflammatory things would be removed rather than a poster banned, if I remember correctly when I was making a stink about a few people doxing another board member.

But now there are apparently hard lines that we should not cross. And yes, there might be ample warning given, but you cannot honestly tell me that your current stance is in any way similar to what you told me back when Chas was doxxed. So why the change in tune? If you changed because a certain sect of The Community complained, then your board is being run for you by those posters, tough shit if you don't like it.

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Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."


:roll: You know that's not what this is about, and that's pretty disingenuous coming from you. I'd expect that kind of petty, dumb shit from Seacrest or Caller Bob. Hell, not even LTG would go that route.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?



Find the quote where i said that and i will leave the board. If you can't find it then you leave the board. Deal? Since you are certain that i said these things then it should not be difficult.

Remember the quote has to say "bulk of white voters are racists". Lets go you damn liar.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions.


You have one like that. There are three guys who make these decisions. I'm not sure where you're getting this "shadow-run" crap, but we've done our best to consider the wishes of the users and you are one of them. And we argue about this stuff among ourselves. I would say the three of us are all very different and I think it would be difficult for you to argue that we- as a collective- are less than reasonable. I understand that there are those who support a completely unmoderated forum. I fall into that camp myself as you apparently do. But it's pretty obvious that a majority of members don't feel that way, and some of them have made it eminently clear by posting much less or stepping away from the board entirely.


I want consistency. It was you who proudly stated that the moderators would stay out of policing the content of posts, that offensive or inflammatory things would be removed rather than a poster banned, if I remember correctly when I was making a stink about a few people doxing another board member.

But now there are apparently hard lines that we should not cross. And yes, there might be ample warning given, but you cannot honestly tell me that your current stance is in any way similar to what you told me back when Chas was doxxed. So why the change in tune? If you changed because a certain sect of The Community complained, then your board is being run for you by those posters, tough shit if you don't like it.

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Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."


:roll: You know that's not what this is about, and that's pretty disingenuous coming from you. I'd expect that kind of petty, dumb shit from Seacrest or Caller Bob. Hell, not even LTG would go that route.



Haven't you PM'd people on here (including me) requesting that certain things be cut out? How is that any different?


It is ironic that you were one of the leaders of "moderation" gang too.By way of PMing and posting you let it be known that the place needed better moderation. Apparently only certain things needed moderating.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions.


You have one like that. There are three guys who make these decisions. I'm not sure where you're getting this "shadow-run" crap, but we've done our best to consider the wishes of the users and you are one of them. And we argue about this stuff among ourselves. I would say the three of us are all very different and I think it would be difficult for you to argue that we- as a collective- are less than reasonable. I understand that there are those who support a completely unmoderated forum. I fall into that camp myself as you apparently do. But it's pretty obvious that a majority of members don't feel that way, and some of them have made it eminently clear by posting much less or stepping away from the board entirely.


I want consistency. It was you who proudly stated that the moderators would stay out of policing the content of posts, that offensive or inflammatory things would be removed rather than a poster banned, if I remember correctly when I was making a stink about a few people doxing another board member.

But now there are apparently hard lines that we should not cross. And yes, there might be ample warning given, but you cannot honestly tell me that your current stance is in any way similar to what you told me back when Chas was doxxed. So why the change in tune? If you changed because a certain sect of The Community complained, then your board is being run for you by those posters, tough shit if you don't like it.

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Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."


:roll: You know that's not what this is about, and that's pretty disingenuous coming from you. I'd expect that kind of petty, dumb shit from Seacrest or Caller Bob. Hell, not even LTG would go that route.



Haven't you PM'd people on here (including me) requesting that certain things be cut out? How is that any different?


I don't have the power to make you stop coming here to post, much as I'd like to.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions.


You have one like that. There are three guys who make these decisions. I'm not sure where you're getting this "shadow-run" crap, but we've done our best to consider the wishes of the users and you are one of them. And we argue about this stuff among ourselves. I would say the three of us are all very different and I think it would be difficult for you to argue that we- as a collective- are less than reasonable. I understand that there are those who support a completely unmoderated forum. I fall into that camp myself as you apparently do. But it's pretty obvious that a majority of members don't feel that way, and some of them have made it eminently clear by posting much less or stepping away from the board entirely.


I want consistency. It was you who proudly stated that the moderators would stay out of policing the content of posts, that offensive or inflammatory things would be removed rather than a poster banned, if I remember correctly when I was making a stink about a few people doxing another board member.

But now there are apparently hard lines that we should not cross. And yes, there might be ample warning given, but you cannot honestly tell me that your current stance is in any way similar to what you told me back when Chas was doxxed. So why the change in tune? If you changed because a certain sect of The Community complained, then your board is being run for you by those posters, tough shit if you don't like it.

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Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."


:roll: You know that's not what this is about, and that's pretty disingenuous coming from you. I'd expect that kind of petty, dumb shit from Seacrest or Caller Bob. Hell, not even LTG would go that route.



Haven't you PM'd people on here (including me) requesting that certain things be cut out? How is that any different?


I don't have the power to make you stop coming here to post, much as I'd like to.



Notice how you attempted to deflect? You are one of the main perpetrators of backdoor moderation tactics. You are king of the PM and everyone knows it.

You also have posted numerous times about the need to moderate. Now that there is something that you really don't find all that objectionable (racism) you want everyone else to stand down.

Beat it hypocrite and the terms of the bet still stands. Any other lying asshole that wants to jump on it feel free.

I will bounce if you can find where i said it.

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I think it's clear where we stand on doxxing. As far as "punishment" is concerned, we don't see this board as "ours" in the same way BigFan did. This board is yours. You seem to be doing a fine job policing it yourself. You got Chus to compare himself to Mussolini.


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I'm not sure he is. Maybe he wants to join Toxic Masculinity on the sidelines.


In a little more than a year. That's impressive, I guess?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions.


You have one like that. There are three guys who make these decisions. I'm not sure where you're getting this "shadow-run" crap, but we've done our best to consider the wishes of the users and you are one of them. And we argue about this stuff among ourselves. I would say the three of us are all very different and I think it would be difficult for you to argue that we- as a collective- are less than reasonable. I understand that there are those who support a completely unmoderated forum. I fall into that camp myself as you apparently do. But it's pretty obvious that a majority of members don't feel that way, and some of them have made it eminently clear by posting much less or stepping away from the board entirely.


I want consistency. It was you who proudly stated that the moderators would stay out of policing the content of posts, that offensive or inflammatory things would be removed rather than a poster banned, if I remember correctly when I was making a stink about a few people doxing another board member.

But now there are apparently hard lines that we should not cross. And yes, there might be ample warning given, but you cannot honestly tell me that your current stance is in any way similar to what you told me back when Chas was doxxed. So why the change in tune? If you changed because a certain sect of The Community complained, then your board is being run for you by those posters, tough shit if you don't like it.

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Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."


:roll: You know that's not what this is about, and that's pretty disingenuous coming from you. I'd expect that kind of petty, dumb shit from Seacrest or Caller Bob. Hell, not even LTG would go that route.


So you just want to lawyer this like you lawyer everything else. Well, I'm not interested. I'm sorry you find asking a guy multiple times to stop doing something before finally and reluctantly taking away his ability to do that thing to be "inconsistent". That breaks my heart. Unfortunately, that's the way it is. So I would advise that if Seacrest PMs you and says, "Hey, can you please stop doing x, y, or z?" and you choose to ignore that, well, don't be shocked when something happens.

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Notice how you attempted to deflect? You are one of the main perpetrators of backdoor moderation tactics.



You asked me how is my PM'ing you asking you to stop calling me a racist without proof any different than the moderators banning posters, and I answered. How is that a deflection?


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You also have posted numerous times about the need to moderate. Now that there is something that you really don't find all that objectionable (racism) you want everyone else to stand down.


No, I stated before you entered this thread what is the source of my consternation here, and it is a lack of consistency in the stated moderating tactics of the powers-that-be, tactics which apparently can change on a dime if enough of a certain group complains.

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Beat it hypocrite and the terms of the bet still stands. Any other lying asshole that wants to jump on it feel free.

I will bounce if you can find where i said it.


I'll take you up on this bet when you find one single shred of evidence of racist things I have stated here.


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Hey JORR you assbag, can you respond to this blatant hypocrisy?

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I think it's clear where we stand on doxxing. As far as "punishment" is concerned, we don't see this board as "ours" in the same way BigFan did. This board is yours. You seem to be doing a fine job policing it yourself. You got Chus to compare himself to Mussolini.


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I'm not sure he is. Maybe he wants to join Toxic Masculinity on the sidelines.


In a little more than a year. That's impressive, I guess?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'd prefer one that isnt shadow-run by a cabal of posters who can decide what rules to institute and when to get certain posters banned from a board which was previously proudly declared to be without content restrictions.


You have one like that. There are three guys who make these decisions. I'm not sure where you're getting this "shadow-run" crap, but we've done our best to consider the wishes of the users and you are one of them. And we argue about this stuff among ourselves. I would say the three of us are all very different and I think it would be difficult for you to argue that we- as a collective- are less than reasonable. I understand that there are those who support a completely unmoderated forum. I fall into that camp myself as you apparently do. But it's pretty obvious that a majority of members don't feel that way, and some of them have made it eminently clear by posting much less or stepping away from the board entirely.


I want consistency. It was you who proudly stated that the moderators would stay out of policing the content of posts, that offensive or inflammatory things would be removed rather than a poster banned, if I remember correctly when I was making a stink about a few people doxing another board member.

But now there are apparently hard lines that we should not cross. And yes, there might be ample warning given, but you cannot honestly tell me that your current stance is in any way similar to what you told me back when Chas was doxxed. So why the change in tune? If you changed because a certain sect of The Community complained, then your board is being run for you by those posters, tough shit if you don't like it.

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Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."


:roll: You know that's not what this is about, and that's pretty disingenuous coming from you. I'd expect that kind of petty, dumb shit from Seacrest or Caller Bob. Hell, not even LTG would go that route.


So you just want to lawyer this like you lawyer everything else. Well, I'm not interested. I'm sorry you find asking a guy multiple times to stop doing something before finally and reluctantly taking away his ability to do that thing to be "inconsistent". That breaks my heart. Unfortunately, that's the way it is. So I would advise that if Seacrest PMs you and says, "Hey, can you please stop doing x, y, or z?" and you choose to ignore that, well, don't be shocked when something happens.


WTF are you talking about? You personally and other members of your moderating team have said specifically and without equivocation in June of last year that board members would not be punished. Can you comment on the hypocrisy displayed by your recent punishing of two different posters?


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