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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:41 am 
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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.

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Some of you don't deserve the Wise Men and their efforts to save and continue this board. Stop being fucking pricks. Nas, JORR and even Seacrest (puke) have been doing an excellent job, and this place is doing well, even with the wrenches Toxic and America attempted to throw in. They didn't give a shit about the place. Why are you so eager to throw in with a couple of saboteurs?


It is not like they went and started their own secret message board and kept the membership rules as secretive as the Illuminati or have a FB group where decisions are made. You know all Trilateral,Bilderberg NWO type shit

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:48 am 
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What do you actually want out of this nonsense? Do you want the CFMB Bill of Rights? Jesus christ, you're carrying on about nonsense like my first goddamn wife. Quit crying and move on.

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IMU wrote:
Some of you don't deserve the Wise Men and their efforts to save and continue this board. Stop being fucking pricks. Nas, JORR and even Seacrest (puke) have been doing an excellent job, and this place is doing well, even with the wrenches Toxic and America attempted to throw in. They didn't give a shit about the place. Why are you so eager to throw in with a couple of saboteurs?


As I've said repeatedly, I just want consistency in the stated moderation approach (it was explicitly hands-off and "police yourselves" until it wasn't) or, failing that, an explanation for the inconsistency. JORR has provided neither, and resorted to ad hominem attacks (circumstantial when he made it about "lawyering" and tone policing when he made it about a "temper tantrum") instead.


Honestly, it feels like we do largely police ourselves...until someone steps out of line with the overt racist bullshit and personal attacks.

What do you actually want out of this nonsense? Do you want the CFMB Bill of Rights? Jesus christ, you're carrying on about nonsense like my first goddamn wife. Quit crying and move on.


You're quoting a post where I literally say what I want.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:50 am 
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Some of you don't deserve the Wise Men and their efforts to save and continue this board. Stop being fucking pricks. Nas, JORR and even Seacrest (puke) have been doing an excellent job, and this place is doing well, even with the wrenches Toxic and America attempted to throw in. They didn't give a shit about the place. Why are you so eager to throw in with a couple of saboteurs?


It is not like they went and started their own secret message board and kept the membership rules as secretive as the Illuminati or have a FB group where decisions are made. You know all Trilateral,Bilderberg NWO type shit


And then FavreFan ordered from Papa John's and Nas insisted on thin crust. The horror. The horror.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:51 am 
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Some of you don't deserve the Wise Men and their efforts to save and continue this board. Stop being fucking pricks. Nas, JORR and even Seacrest (puke) have been doing an excellent job, and this place is doing well, even with the wrenches Toxic and America attempted to throw in. They didn't give a shit about the place. Why are you so eager to throw in with a couple of saboteurs?


As I've said repeatedly, I just want consistency in the stated moderation approach (it was explicitly hands-off and "police yourselves" until it wasn't) or, failing that, an explanation for the inconsistency. JORR has provided neither, and resorted to ad hominem attacks (circumstantial when he made it about "lawyering" and tone policing when he made it about a "temper tantrum") instead.


Honestly, it feels like we do largely police ourselves...until someone steps out of line with the overt racist bullshit and personal attacks.

What do you actually want out of this nonsense? Do you want the CFMB Bill of Rights? Jesus christ, you're carrying on about nonsense like my first goddamn wife. Quit crying and move on.


You're quoting a post where I literally say what I want.

You have said what you want for 2 pages now (quite normal for you). You've been told nobody cares for the same amount of space (again quite normal). Any time you want to drop it is just fine.


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IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


This is the epitome (imo) of self policing. No one is being tasked to be a George Zimmerman, but rather just attack other's bad (iyo) ideas with better ideas. When continued racism or threats are made, then it should be up to the wisemen to decide what to do with the culprit. Police catch the criminals, courts (and juries) decide what to do. It is their board, they can do as they please with it. If you believe that they are being hypocritical, you're not going to convince them otherwise. It might be time for some to realize there isn't any appeals process past the owners of this board.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:53 am 
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Harvard Dan wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


This is the epitome (imo) of self policing. No one is being tasked to be a George Zimmerman, but rather just attack other's bad (iyo) ideas with better ideas. When continued racism or threats are made, then it should be up to the wisemen to decide what to do with the culprit. Police catch the criminals, courts (and juries) decide what to do. It is their board, they can do as they please with it. If you believe that they are being hypocritical, you're not going to convince them otherwise. It might be time for some to realize there isn't any appeals process past the owners of this board.


I know they're being hypocritical, I posted the proof. If they can't make peace with it or their apologists want to rationalize it into something other than the hypocrisy it most certainly is, that's on them, not me.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Harvard Dan wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


This is the epitome (imo) of self policing. No one is being tasked to be a George Zimmerman, but rather just attack other's bad (iyo) ideas with better ideas. When continued racism or threats are made, then it should be up to the wisemen to decide what to do with the culprit. Police catch the criminals, courts (and juries) decide what to do. It is their board, they can do as they please with it. If you believe that they are being hypocritical, you're not going to convince them otherwise. It might be time for some to realize there isn't any appeals process past the owners of this board.


I know they're being hypocritical, I posted the proof. If they can't make peace with it or their apologists want to rationalize it into something other than the hypocrisy it most certainly is, that's on them, not me.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Harvard Dan wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


This is the epitome (imo) of self policing. No one is being tasked to be a George Zimmerman, but rather just attack other's bad (iyo) ideas with better ideas. When continued racism or threats are made, then it should be up to the wisemen to decide what to do with the culprit. Police catch the criminals, courts (and juries) decide what to do. It is their board, they can do as they please with it. If you believe that they are being hypocritical, you're not going to convince them otherwise. It might be time for some to realize there isn't any appeals process past the owners of this board.


I know they're being hypocritical, I posted the proof. If they can't make peace with it or their apologists want to rationalize it into something other than the hypocrisy it most certainly is, that's on them, not me.


In the end who cares. It is a message board. I do love how people are crying that some of their buddies got butt hurt and no longer post here.

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I don't think JLN or LTG should be banned, but I wouldn't be upset if they both died in a fire today.

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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Who is "the community"? Did the community VOTE? What was this? A popularity poll? Who speaks for the community anyway?

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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Who is "the community"? Did the community VOTE? What was this? A popularity poll? Who speaks for the community anyway?



You have a voice in the community. So should we accept people posting "black people are trash" or not? What say you? Your dime, your dance floor.

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IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Who is "the community"? Did the community VOTE? What was this? A popularity poll? Who speaks for the community anyway?



You have a voice in the community. So should we accept people posting "black people are trash" or not? What say you? Your dime, your dance floor.

Not after they have been repeatedly warned.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?



I'll mark down your vote.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?

People blasted them after these incidents.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?


Supposed word? I thought it was content of messages here that got them the boot.

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This is horrible. Every time I post now I think to myself “Is this the post that’s going to to get me banned, because I’m so confused about the rules here?” No wait, I don’t think that at all because I don’t post like an idiot.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Who is "the community"? Did the community VOTE? What was this? A popularity poll? Who speaks for the community anyway?



You have a voice in the community. So should we accept people posting "black people are trash" or not? What say you? Your dime, your dance floor.


No but then the same should apply in the other direction. This is what I think JLN is trying to point out with out flat out stating it.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Who is "the community"? Did the community VOTE? What was this? A popularity poll? Who speaks for the community anyway?



You have a voice in the community. So should we accept people posting "black people are trash" or not? What say you? Your dime, your dance floor.


I think moderators who publicly take this approach to moderating...

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Seriously, I think this needs to be said in light of certain things JLN and Chus wanted to happen in separate situations. It should be obvious to everyone that we don't take a heavy-handed approach in moderating this board. I would think that after all the complaints about bigfan that would be appreciated.

The problem with heavy moderation is that it becomes a matter of choices. The three of us have discussed this extensively. For example, Nas was never extremely disturbed by racist posts. (He obviously knows there are racists in the world and some post on message boards.) What pissed him off was when things that weren't as offensive were deleted while that other shit was left to stand. Those are editorial decisions. And by removing one and not the other you are giving tacit approval to the one that remains.

We've clearly made the decision to allow you guys to police the forum yourselves for the most part. There have been very few things that we have removed. JLN, we aren't giving tacit approval to doxxing. Chus, we don't approve of people attacking family members. We simply aren't interventionist gods.



...should either stick to it or explain why they aren't sticking to it.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?

People blasted them after these incidents.


Sure, and isn't "blasting them" part of self-policing the board? How was banning put on the table?


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Has there been any doxxing since the incident? No? Well, I guess our approach was successful then. We took a similar approach with the two guys in question and they refused to cease their behavior. Now, unless you're going to come right out and endorse the content posted by the two guys who have been banned, you should probably just shut the fuck up.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?

People blasted them after these incidents.


Sure, and isn't "blasting them" part of self-policing the board? How was banning put on the table?



Wouldn't the desired result of "blasting them" to curb the behavior? If behavior continues and it is racist in nature what then? JORR even states that the community is allowed to self police for the "MOST" part.

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What is with the board. Last couple of months it seems everyone is on a huge case of PMS(sorry Spaulding and Dolphin)
Everyone needs to go play outside,get sun and enjoy life.

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Has there been any doxxing since the incident? No? Well, I guess our approach was successful then. We took a similar approach with the two guys in question and they refused to cease their behavior. Now, unless you're going to come right out and endorse the content posted by the two guys who have been banned, you should probably just shut the fuck up.


This is HIL[L]ARIOUS coming from you. How would you feel if someone tried to make you endorse the content of someone's speech when defending their ability to speak? Would you think that's a bullshit tactic used by intellectual quarter-wits? Me too. Have a good day, JORR, it's good to know how far your intellectual fortitude extends.


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tommy wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
IMU wrote:
We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?

People blasted them after these incidents.


Sure, and isn't "blasting them" part of self-policing the board? How was banning put on the table?



Wouldn't the desired result of "blasting them" to curb the behavior? If behavior continues and it is racist in nature what then? JORR even states that the community is allowed to self police for the "MOST" part.


If "continued defiance of collective board outrage" results in a banning that sounds like a rule to me, and rules should be posted.


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