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A bunch of us on the CFMB MySpace chat agreed that to make everyone happy, we should ban two pinko-commie liberal posters.

The names we came up with were Drunk Squirrel and Regular Reader. Just suggestions . . . though I personally agree with them, of course . . . but these are just suggestions.


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While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Has there been any doxxing since the incident? No? Well, I guess our approach was successful then. We took a similar approach with the two guys in question and they refused to cease their behavior. Now, unless you're going to come right out and endorse the content posted by the two guys who have been banned, you should probably just shut the fuck up.


This is HIL[L]ARIOUS coming from you. How would you feel if someone tried to make you endorse the content of someone's speech when defending their ability to speak? Would you think that's a bullshit tactic used by intellectual quarter-wits? Me too. Have a good day, JORR, it's good to know how far your intellectual fortitude extends.



You seem confused about free speech rights again. We're more like the baker who doesn't want to bake the cake. There are plenty of message boards where they can do that kind of thing if they want. I don't think it's incumbent upon us to provide a forum for people to post racist content, do you?

You want to get real? You're being a fucking asshole. Everyone here knows it.

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tommy wrote:
A bunch of us on the CFMB MySpace chat agreed that to make everyone happy, we should ban two pinko-commie liberal posters.

The names we came up with were Drunk Squirrel and Regular Reader. Just suggestions . . . though I personally agree with them, of course . . . but these are just suggestions.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Has there been any doxxing since the incident? No? Well, I guess our approach was successful then. We took a similar approach with the two guys in question and they refused to cease their behavior. Now, unless you're going to come right out and endorse the content posted by the two guys who have been banned, you should probably just shut the fuck up.


This is HIL[L]ARIOUS coming from you. How would you feel if someone tried to make you endorse the content of someone's speech when defending their ability to speak? Would you think that's a bullshit tactic used by intellectual quarter-wits? Me too. Have a good day, JORR, it's good to know how far your intellectual fortitude extends.



You seem confused about free speech rights again. We're more like the baker who doesn't want to bake the cake. There are plenty of message boards where they can do that kind of thing if they want. I don't think it's incumbent upon us to provide a forum for people to post racist content, do you?



Not a free speech argument, this is about the bullshit tactic of "oh you're defending [X], you better endorse what [X] says". I applied it to speech because that is something you've been vocal about before, just to further highlight your hypocrisy.

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Then ban me, too. The Community has spoken then, right?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?

People blasted them after these incidents.


Sure, and isn't "blasting them" part of self-policing the board? How was banning put on the table?

They kept it up and then got even worse, I guess. In his defense, Toxic did apologize, but he'd go right back to trying to sneak in the stuff that gives you pause.

However, I can appreciate your point here, JLN--seriously.


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While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.

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FavreFan wrote:
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JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


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Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:31 pm 
chaspoppcap wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


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Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?

Sure. Show us the racist posts from the left and we can have a great conversation.


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chaspoppcap wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.

Yeah it seems like pretty much all the conservatives on here outside of JLN understand.

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FavreFan wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.



Show it then. What were the offending remarks?

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.

you ignored their explanation and then threw a temper tantrum, earned being called a "fucking asshole" and so on and so on.


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Kirkwood wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.

you ignored their explanation and then threw a temper tantrum, earned being called a "fucking asshole" and so on and so on.


What was their explanation?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.


Because it's not sincere. It's just being a douchebag to be a douchebag. The exact type of thing that bigfan complained about. You're the same guy who bitched about being called a Nazi. We addressed that and you haven't been called a Nazi again. Now you're going to bat for guys- tacitly at a minimum- who said all kinds of stuff that you didn't find as offensive as someone calling you a Nazi. You went on for days about doxxing and we addressed that. It hasn't happened again. These two guys were handled exactly the same way as the people in those incidents and they just wanted to stick it right up our asses. Is that really so hard to understand?

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The Hawk wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.



Show it then. What were the offending remarks?

JLN has shown it
I will come out and say it and not dance around it. If you are going to go ban America for saying what he did and having warn him and his not complaining then why has LTG not gotten the same treatment. He says far worse things about people who vote for Trump and also for where people just live.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Who is "the community"? Did the community VOTE? What was this? A popularity poll? Who speaks for the community anyway?



You have a voice in the community. So should we accept people posting "black people are trash" or not? What say you? Your dime, your dance floor.


No but then the same should apply in the other direction. This is what I think JLN is trying to point out with out flat out stating it.


There is no other direction. That is the point.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:47 pm 
FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.

Yeah it seems like pretty much all the conservatives on here outside of JLN understand.

Add Chas to that list.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.


Because it's not sincere. It's just being a douchebag to be a douchebag. The exact type of thing that bigfan complained about. You're the same guy who bitched about being called a Nazi. We addressed that and you haven't been called a Nazi again. Now you're going to bat for guys- tacitly at a minimum- who said all kinds of stuff that you didn't find as offensive as someone calling you a Nazi. You went on for days about doxxing and we addressed that. It hasn't happened again. These two guys were handled exactly the same way as the people in those incidents and they just wanted to stick it right up our asses. Is that really so hard to understand?

Again, I can appreciate JLN's point, and I think his voice (along with those of many other posters) is one any group of people who want to be honest with themselves will ultimately value, but JORR's post above (after the first few sentences) wraps everything up persuasively for me.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.


Because it's not sincere. It's just being a douchebag to be a douchebag. The exact type of thing that bigfan complained about.


How do you know it's not sincere?

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You're the same guy who bitched about being called a Nazi. We addressed that and you haven't been called a Nazi again.


Actually I only said something AFTER Seacrest took the initiative the first time with IMU, as I thought that was a standard set. I was out enjoying a cigar the first time and everyone accused me of reporting the post and running to you guys, but I never saw the post or interacted with it.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure I've been called—tacitly at a minimum—a Nazi since.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Now you're going to bat for guys- tacitly at a minimum- who said all kinds of stuff that you didn't find as offensive as someone calling you a Nazi.


How do you establish that?


Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
These two guys were handled exactly the same way as the people in those incidents and they just wanted to stick it right up our asses. Is that really so hard to understand?


No, it's not.


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chaspoppcap wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.



Show it then. What were the offending remarks?

JLN has shown it
I will come out and say it and not dance around it. If you are going to go ban America for saying what he did and having warn him and his not complaining then why has LTG not gotten the same treatment. He says far worse things about people who vote for Trump and also for where people just live.



Trump literally has white supremacist that openly endorse him you lying sack of shit. Saying that Many of Trump's supporters are racist is a factual statement you lying racist piece of shit. I am going there because you are another one that says offensive shit isn't it funny that the ones that toe, straddle, and go over the line with racist shit are among the biggest defenders (surprise) of one another. If I have said anything remotely racist then find it and I will leave the board. IF not then shut the fuck up.


Seacrest already stated how he had to delete racist shit that you have posted about people on here. I didn't even address it because I simply wanted to give your racist ass a pass because as I said before you are fucking pathetic. Fuck you dipshit. You are another one that makes shit up just like that lying asshole JLN.

You keep placing me in this for some reason.

IF I have said offensive things about white people post them or shut the fuck up.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.

Some of it (with Toxic) had to do with doxxing, I think.


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long time guy wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
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While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


Yup,
Question Joe. Will the people on the other side of the political spectrum be held to the same standard?



This has nothing to do with politics.



Show it then. What were the offending remarks?

JLN has shown it
I will come out and say it and not dance around it. If you are going to go ban America for saying what he did and having warn him and his not complaining then why has LTG not gotten the same treatment. He says far worse things about people who vote for Trump and also for where people just live.



Trump literally has white supremacist that openly endorse him you lying sack of shit. Saying that Many of Trump's supporters are racist is a factual statement you lying racist piece of shit. I am going there because you are another one that says offensive shit isn't it funny that the ones that toe, straddle, and go over the line with racist shit are among the biggest defenders (surprise) of one another. If I have said anything remotely racist then find it and I will leave the board. IF not then shut the fuck up.


Seacrest already stated how he had to delete racist shit that you have posted about people on here. I didn't even address it because I simply wanted to give your racist ass a pass because as I said before you are fucking pathetic. Fuck you dipshit. You are another one that makes shit up just like that lying asshole JLN.

You keep placing me in this for some reason.

IF I have said offensive things about white people post them or shut the fuck up.[/quote]
JLN did you admitted it yourself in this very post
Once again. Guys get booted for shit less than this. Defend this crap Joe.

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chaspoppcap wrote:

Show it then. What were the offending remarks?

JLN has shown it
I will come out and say it and not dance around it. If you are going to go ban America for saying what he did and having warn him and his not complaining then why has LTG not gotten the same treatment. He says far worse things about people who vote for Trump and also for where people just live.



Trump literally has white supremacist that openly endorse him you lying sack of shit. Saying that Many of Trump's supporters are racist is a factual statement you lying racist piece of shit. I am going there because you are another one that says offensive shit isn't it funny that the ones that toe, straddle, and go over the line with racist shit are among the biggest defenders (surprise) of one another. If I have said anything remotely racist then find it and I will leave the board. IF not then shut the fuck up.


Seacrest already stated how he had to delete racist shit that you have posted about people on here. I didn't even address it because I simply wanted to give your racist ass a pass because as I said before you are fucking pathetic. Fuck you dipshit. You are another one that makes shit up just like that lying asshole JLN.

You keep placing me in this for some reason.

IF I have said offensive things about white people post them or shut the fuck up.

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Once again. Guys get booted for shit less than this. Defend this crap Joe.


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Did your clown ass get booted for using the "N" word asshole?

Also there is nothing false or racist about saying that Many of Trump's supporters are racist you dumb fuck

There also isn't anything false about calling you racist you stupid lying asshole.

IF there is enlighten me with your dumbass.

You are only mad because you are a Trump supporter and you are a damn racist. You help make up the "Many" portion of the show. Shoe fits wear it asshole.
You don't even have the ability to comprehend speech or the written word. You are an asshole. I own everything that I say.

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Now, unless you're going to come right out and endorse the content posted by the two guys who have been banned, you should probably just shut the fuck up.


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I used to heavily engage in these board existentialist conversations.

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I actually wish you would; you seem pretty smart in spite of having attended St. Ignatius.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:12 pm 
Chas, this is just my feeling looking at the lay of the land right now, but if the Wisemen are concerned about the appearance of their site, maybe the guy who is an actual sex offender shouldn't be running his mouth about other being banned hmmmm?


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We did police ourselves. The community said we're tired of America and Toxic's shit. The three Wise Men did not make any decision until the people spoke.


Where and how did this happen? And how does that justify a moderation team going from "we're not going to punish anyone" to punishing two posters on the supposed word of the community?

People blasted them after these incidents.


Sure, and isn't "blasting them" part of self-policing the board? How was banning put on the table?

They did not go from one to the other. They warned both posters numerous times. You don't need to be privy to each step.

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