3 things jump out immediately.

1. Knew he was going to use the "other countries didn't get rich from slavery thus it is fallacious to think this country got rich "off the backs of slaves" argument. Knew you would agree with this portion of the argument among others as well.

2. Comparing the treatment of other groups to African Americans is stupid since none of them faced the hardships that African American faced. Japanese Internment lasted for 1-2 years. African American Slavery lasted for 250 years.

Would you like to ask the Average Slave whether they would have preferred to be Enslaved for the entirety of their life or would they have preferred 1-2 years of detainment? Also let's ask any of the groups that you listed if they would prefer to be treated in the way slaves were treated or would they prefer the treatment they received. What do you think the answer would be?

Also immigration is voluntary slavery was not. Any group that immigrates into this country does so under their own free will. No one forced them to come here


Third. If Government action is so detrimental then why did whites in both the North and Southern regions fight so hard to end Reconstruction?

As an addendum is this rather stupid notion. Among Many

Yeah blacks were really making strides pre Civil Rights. See Their level of povery decreased from 87% to 47% What the hell are they complaining about? Post Civil Rights pd poverty level hasn't been anywhere near 47% so how could the Civil Rights movement have been detrimental?

Also aren't you the dude that not too long ago referenced the utopianism of Jim Crow life for blacks? Doesn't the 87% poverty rate sort of shoot that argument straight to hell?

JORR, and his eunchs,

Where in the history of the board has a piece from an undergrad with no real world experience been posted to discuss a serious topic? Except where race is involved? Why is that?

As for the content the kid wrote, most of it was the same cutesy political b.s. that hacks like Thomas Sowell has been writing to keep his stipend coming from AEI or the Heritage foundation. Which the kid cited as support throughout. And articles from Money magazine that no one here read.

How hard should one really have to talk to dismiss writings based entirely on contempt, cynicism and to please one's bigoted paymaster? I guess quite a bit if race is involved around here.

Sowell and his acolytes have been pushing this crap from ivory towers for years. Pointing their fingers at those people for years, ignoring the realities of life for years, just broadly talking about immorality of "them" and tossing out platitudes about bootstraps.

The guy that cited it is the same dude that criticized yesterday for citing an "opinion piece". Funny how he has no problem with citing one now.

One of the things that contributes to increased levels of stress is the feeling of not knowing if you were denied something because you were black or simply not qualified.

It is frankly easy for people that don't have to wonder about it to say bullshit with regards to the notion but they have never had to experience it. Blacks have and no matter what it is always there.

JORR, and his eunchs,

Where in the history of the board has a piece from an undergrad with no real world experience been posted to discuss a serious topic? Except where race is involved? Why is that?

As for the content the kid wrote, most of it was the same cutesy political b.s. that hacks like Thomas Sowell has been writing to keep his stipend coming from AEI or the Heritage foundation. Which the kid cited as support throughout. And articles from Money magazine that no one here read.

How hard should one really have to talk to dismiss writings based entirely on contempt, cynicism and to please one's bigoted paymaster? I guess quite a bit if race is involved around here.

Sowell and his acolytes have been pushing this crap from ivory towers for years. Pointing their fingers at those people for years, ignoring the realities of life for years, just broadly talking about immorality of "them" and tossing out platitudes about bootstraps.

JORR, and his eunchs,

Where in the history of the board has a piece from an undergrad with no real world experience been posted to discuss a serious topic? Except where race is involved? Why is that?

As for the content the kid wrote, most of it was the same cutesy political b.s. that hacks like Thomas Sowell has been writing to keep his stipend coming from AEI or the Heritage foundation. Which the kid cited as support throughout. And articles from Money magazine that no one here read.

How hard should one really have to talk to dismiss writings based entirely on contempt, cynicism and to please one's bigoted paymaster? I guess quite a bit if race is involved around here.

Sowell and his acolytes have been pushing this crap from ivory towers for years. Pointing their fingers at those people for years, ignoring the realities of life for years, just broadly talking about immorality of "them" and tossing out platitudes about bootstraps.

3 things jump out immediately.

1. Knew he was going to use the "other countries didn't get rich from slavery thus it is fallacious to think this country got rich "off the backs of slaves" argument. Knew you would agree with this portion of the argument among others as well.

2. Comparing the treatment of other groups to African Americans is stupid since none of them faced the hardships that African American faced. Japanese Internment lasted for 1-2 years. African American Slavery lasted for 250 years.

Would you like to ask the Average Slave whether they would have preferred to be Enslaved for the entirety of their life or would they have preferred 1-2 years of detainment? Also let's ask any of the groups that you listed if they would prefer to be treated in the way slaves were treated or would they prefer the treatment they received. What do you think the answer would be?

Also immigration is voluntary slavery was not. Any group that immigrates into this country does so under their own free will. No one forced them to come here


Third. If Government action is so detrimental then why did whites in both the North and Southern regions fight so hard to end Reconstruction?

As an addendum is this rather stupid notion. Among Many

Yeah blacks were really making strides pre Civil Rights. See Their level of povery decreased from 87% to 47% What the hell are they complaining about? Post Civil Rights pd poverty level hasn't been anywhere near 47% so how could the Civil Rights movement have been detrimental?

Also aren't you the dude that not too long ago referenced the utopianism of Jim Crow life for blacks? Doesn't the 87% poverty rate sort of shoot that argument straight to hell?

Are you no longer capable of making an argument without just calling names and attacking people's character? It seems as though you can't tell the difference between the two.

This isn't about the guy's academic credentials and you prove that by immediately going after Thomas Sowell. If you want to call them "Toms" just go ahead, but don't pretend that's real argument. I get that you don't like black conservatives, or conservatives in general.

Wasn’t Joe Orr and his Eunuchs the name of the band he formed after Hazardous Youth broke up?

Trolling is hard work, no?

But you can't attack Sowell's credentials or his life experiences.

And your first premise is silly in the Internet age. There are all kinds of people with various levels of education publishing articles on a wide variety of topics. And MANY have been cited here. And it's not like one need a doctorate to write on a subject. Ta-Nehisi Coates isn't a college grad. Do you dismiss him out of hand?

But you can't attack Sowell's credentials or his life experiences.

And your first premise is silly in the Internet age. There are all kinds of people with various levels of education publishing articles on a wide variety of topics. And MANY have been cited here. And it's not like one need a doctorate to write on a subject. Ta-Nehisi Coates isn't a college grad. Do you dismiss him out of hand?

I can and do hold Sowell, his writings & his life experiences in complete contempt for their shallowness and ability to play exactly one note. Just like Coates, who btw I generally dissmiss out of hand as being equally pedantic.

As for what's silly in the internet age, I never would expect a guy like Denis or Ogie to cite some underformed, inexperienced, unproven kid's piece in any discussion about economics or investments. But I would expect a Drake LaRieta to cite the wisdom of Adam LaRoche or his kid. Or America on the fall of Western Civilization. By the same token I can't take that kid's writings seriously on race or any other sociological matter. He's about as experienced as the last two posters I cited.

I give Sowell a tad bit more sway than you but i never lose sight of the fact that he is beholden to his benefactors as most black Conservatives are. They are the opposite side of the "race hustler" coin though MANY conservatives fail to see it thar way.

Who is Sowell beholden to?

Whichever Conservative Based institute that he has ever worked for. If you look at his career and i haven't in about the last 10-15 years, you will find a steady stream of conservative think tank types such as the Hoover Institute and Brookings littered amongs them. He is only relevant (as most black Conservatives are) as long as he denigrates black people. Not exactly novel as Booker T. mastered this very same thing over a 130 years ago. Once he stops doing that then all of the grants, books, speaking tours, and lofty appointments to prestigious schools such as Hoover run out.

Its why i tend not to take much of what he and most black Conservatives say seriously. In order to maintain the support of their Conservative benefactors it is necessary for them to disparage blacks while conversely ignoring or diminishing the role of racism.