It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:42 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3092 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82 ... 104  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:23 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
rogers park bryan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
What a job by Giolito. This is really something he can build on.

Amazing performance holding the Tigers to 3 runs in 6 innings.
Bases loaded with 0 out and allowing 0 runs is a good job by any pitcher.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:19 pm
Posts: 31619
pizza_Place: What??
Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
What a job by Giolito. This is really something he can build on.

Amazing performance holding the Tigers to 3 runs in 6 innings.
Bases loaded with 0 out and allowing 0 runs is a good job by any pitcher.

I guess but it was Detroit and it was their 7,8,9 hitters who barely hit their weight.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:33 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
It doesn't matter. Bases loaded with 0 out...Popup, strikeout, popup to allow zero runs is a great job regardless of who is on the bump or who is at the plate. Giolito is a guy who comes unraveled easily. Sox score 3, he gave up 3 in the first, and he was chewing on his glove walking back to the dugout he was so pissed at himself. After, he stelled in and kept the Tigers off the board for the rest of the game. As I said that is something that any pitcher- a young guy like Giolito especially- can build on.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:19 pm
Posts: 31619
pizza_Place: What??
Frank Coztansa wrote:
It doesn't matter. Bases loaded with 0 out...Popup, strikeout, popup to allow zero runs is a great job regardless of who is on the bump or who is at the plate. Giolito is a guy who comes unraveled easily. Sox score 3, he gave up 3 in the first, and he was chewing on his glove walking back to the dugout he was so pissed at himself. After, he stelled in and kept the Tigers off the board for the rest of the game. As I said that is something that any pitcher- a young guy like Giolito especially- can build on.

It's good he's decided to build after 35 MLB starts.

I haven't given up on him but I don't see the pitching IQ I expected from an obviously intelligent human being. Obvious stuff like first pitch strikes. But I do understand he may be pressing from a 5 MPH mystery drop in velocity. And velocity affects your breaking stuff too. I think we'd all feel better if he showed up next ST throwing 97 and the hellacious curve we saw last year.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:26 am
Posts: 14924
pizza_Place: Grazianos
Nardi wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
It doesn't matter. Bases loaded with 0 out...Popup, strikeout, popup to allow zero runs is a great job regardless of who is on the bump or who is at the plate. Giolito is a guy who comes unraveled easily. Sox score 3, he gave up 3 in the first, and he was chewing on his glove walking back to the dugout he was so pissed at himself. After, he stelled in and kept the Tigers off the board for the rest of the game. As I said that is something that any pitcher- a young guy like Giolito especially- can build on.

It's good he's decided to build after 35 MLB starts.

I haven't given up on him but I don't see the pitching IQ I expected from an obviously intelligent human being. Obvious stuff like first pitch strikes. But I do understand he may be pressing from a 5 MPH mystery drop in velocity. And velocity affects your breaking stuff too. I think we'd all feel better if he showed up next ST throwing 97 and the hellacious curve we saw last year.


I don't know but generally speaking a drop in velocity like that is pretty typical for young pitchers. They just come up with a tired arm since they are not used to throwing as many innings as starters in the majors are required to do. . The important thing is that these pitchers do not change their mechanics in attempting to get their velocity back. That can result in a pretty bad injury.

_________________
An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 503
The Hawk wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
It doesn't matter. Bases loaded with 0 out...Popup, strikeout, popup to allow zero runs is a great job regardless of who is on the bump or who is at the plate. Giolito is a guy who comes unraveled easily. Sox score 3, he gave up 3 in the first, and he was chewing on his glove walking back to the dugout he was so pissed at himself. After, he stelled in and kept the Tigers off the board for the rest of the game. As I said that is something that any pitcher- a young guy like Giolito especially- can build on.

It's good he's decided to build after 35 MLB starts.

I haven't given up on him but I don't see the pitching IQ I expected from an obviously intelligent human being. Obvious stuff like first pitch strikes. But I do understand he may be pressing from a 5 MPH mystery drop in velocity. And velocity affects your breaking stuff too. I think we'd all feel better if he showed up next ST throwing 97 and the hellacious curve we saw last year.


I don't know but generally speaking a drop in velocity like that is pretty typical for young pitchers. They just come up with a tired arm since they are not used to throwing as many innings as starters in the majors are required to do. . The important thing is that these pitchers do not change their mechanics in attempting to get their velocity back. That can result in a pretty bad injury.


Why would he have had a tired arm at the start of the season?

Through June 16 he averaged 91.6 on his fastball.

Since then his fastball has been 93.2.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Davidson and Delmonico should not be allowed to play in the infield at the same time. I guess they had no choice.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:37 pm
Posts: 911
pizza_Place: Home Run Inn...Frozen!
The Double Ds.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
The Palka Hustle


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:59 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
That’s two F bombs from Rodon. Might want to turn the field mic off.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:08 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
Timmy gets to that ball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Keyser Soze wrote:
Timmy gets to that ball.

Defense not real good today, beside the double play


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:10 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Keyser Soze wrote:
Timmy gets to that ball.
Timmy has a .287 OBP and a terrible .689 OPS. His bat is a black hole in the lineup and he does not deserve to play every day.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:10 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
That was a nice play by Yolmer.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Keyser Soze wrote:
That was a nice play by Yolmer.

Yep....sure would love to see a Sox team that had Yolmer as a fourth infielder


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
Me too. Finding a 3B has to be priority #1 this offseason.

Atta boy, Batty!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Didn't think Davidstein got enough on that....but apparently he did.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Frank Costanza wrote:
Singles hitter Jose Abreu


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
That ball was walloped.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
"I'm Venezuelan." --Daniel Palka, Basketball All-American


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Yikes......a W is a W, but Christ....

10-14 since the break, I think....Rodon still good.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:07 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
Bullpen arms are off season priority #2, #3, #4, #5, #6......


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Keyser Soze wrote:
Bullpen arms are off season priority #2, #3, #4, #5, #6......

I thought Avilan was supposed to be a stud....


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
He’s a fine situational guy. Just not a closer.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:10 pm
Posts: 38609
Location: "Across 110th Street"
Rodon. Stud (since July 1). .500+(next year).

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:26 am
Posts: 14924
pizza_Place: Grazianos
juschill wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
It doesn't matter. Bases loaded with 0 out...Popup, strikeout, popup to allow zero runs is a great job regardless of who is on the bump or who is at the plate. Giolito is a guy who comes unraveled easily. Sox score 3, he gave up 3 in the first, and he was chewing on his glove walking back to the dugout he was so pissed at himself. After, he stelled in and kept the Tigers off the board for the rest of the game. As I said that is something that any pitcher- a young guy like Giolito especially- can build on.

It's good he's decided to build after 35 MLB starts.

I haven't given up on him but I don't see the pitching IQ I expected from an obviously intelligent human being. Obvious stuff like first pitch strikes. But I do understand he may be pressing from a 5 MPH mystery drop in velocity. And velocity affects your breaking stuff too. I think we'd all feel better if he showed up next ST throwing 97 and the hellacious curve we saw last year.


I don't know but generally speaking a drop in velocity like that is pretty typical for young pitchers. They just come up with a tired arm since they are not used to throwing as many innings as starters in the majors are required to do. . The important thing is that these pitchers do not change their mechanics in attempting to get their velocity back. That can result in a pretty bad injury.


Why would he have had a tired arm at the start of the season?

Through June 16 he averaged 91.6 on his fastball.

Since then his fastball has been 93.2.


I am talking in general terms about young pitchers not being unusual to see their velocity go down.

_________________
An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 503
Regular Reader wrote:
Rodon. Stud (since July 1). .500+(next year).


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:06 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82222
Keyser Soze wrote:
Bullpen arms are off season priority #2, #3, #4, #5, #6......


There are at least a couple of guys and maybe more in the minors who will be rising to fill roles as well as another return of Nate Jones.

I'm no minor league guy but add Jones, Bummer, Hamilton are almost definites and Burdi and Ruiz are at least on the radar for spots

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:07 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
You cannot count on Jones at all. He's like the Kevin White of this bullpen. He has been hurt a ton and he was bad this year anyway.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
The Hawk wrote:

I am talking in general terms about young pitchers not being unusual to see their velocity go down.

Yea, that's not a thing that happens regularly.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3092 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82 ... 104  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group