ugghhh...
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/08 ... -released/

it's beyond a stereotype at this point.

Everything happens for a reason.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It is good news if there is any that this stuff does see the light of day. Seemingly, it also appears that current people in charge act differently as the claim 90% of these happened before 1990.

It is all very hard to understand really. Of course there is a power dynamic that gets involved in people being able to abuse young people under their care for lack of a better word. I do not know the numbers of priests versus society at large but it sure seems outrageous that so many men interested in younger boys seems to be in the ranks.

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Elections have consequences.

I've said this for years, young gay guys know they are gay and have no interest in women..they join the priesthood and take a vow.. Over the years they find themselves in situations with young vulnerable boys and take out their sexual frustration.

I still don't understand how these scumbags are tax exempt.

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Motherfuckers...

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

That brings up another uncomfortable question about the act.

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Elections have consequences.

I think you have the psychology wrong.

I don't believe there is any correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia.

Also, there is nothing wrong with being a priest who identifies as homosexual. However, just like hetero priests, they take a vow of celibacy. It is the breaking of that vow that leads to spiritual decay, just as it does with a hetero priest.

The problem is this: there are active homosexual priests and pedophile priests and both live in a situation of mutual assured destruction should either speak out against the other. Obviously, morally they are not the same. However, in terms of the revelation's impact on a life it is a strong item for manipulation.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I would like to believe there are priests in it just to serve God,too.

They don't exist at all?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

What shocked me more than anything was the damned NUMBER of these priests that were involved in this supposedly. That is astounding to me. The other thing is how this was once again covered up by the archbishop, bishops and other high level priests in the diocese. I am certainly not a fan at all of the Pope in charge. His positions on societal and Catholic morality and mores are very counter to the things that I was taught as a Catholic. Perhaps this Pope needs to take his notion of "forgiveness" of sinners and stick it where the sun doesn't shine and start cleaning out his own leaders for their failures as church leaders and moral men themselves.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I assume I'd be thought of as mentally ill to suggest there is something diabolic at work within the church hierarchy. I don't share your feelings about the pope and don't point the finger at him. The abuse has done more to damage faith than anything I can think.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I was less shocked when I learned it happened over decades and not since 1990 (in this report). Also, the 6 dioceses make up like half the state.

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Elections have consequences.

What this tells me is that the churches position to cover up was far and wide. I can't be convinced that there was 2 isolated instances of mass molestation. I don't see how there isn't isolated instance of this in every diocese at this point. It may not be in scales, but an isolated case at a church here or there.

I don't see how the church isn't punished via tax exemption status for this. How can any organization in the US survive multiply child rape scandals impacting thousands of children over decades.

God must be so proud.

What is this mutual self destruction that you speak of??

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I blame the limp wristed commie Jesuit Pope

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Edgy!

Mike, you are ok? I was worried you got fiddled.

No I was a youth in Chicago they have no interest in me here now.

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Elections have consequences.

Practicing homosexual priests and pedophile priests each having the ability to destroy the other

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Ahh, pick yourself up. I'm sure there are plenty of priests that would fiddle you.

Practicing heterosexuals don't have the same ability?

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I really do not like this pope at all and think that he is damaging the Catholic church in many ways with his socialist beliefs. But this pedophilia goes back a long time in the church and through a number of popes, cardinals, and bishops. This hurts me greatly as a Catholic and I do blame the leadership of the church including this pope for all of the cover-ups and lies that they have done over the years.

Of course this scandal is heavily used by non Catholics and of course, non believers as an indictment of religion in general and specifically Catholicism which is unfortunate. Of course the media loves all scandals involving people who are not secularists. But all this means to me is that it is the Catholic Church's fault for this. They have no one to blame but themselves. It is too bad that the Church cannot fire this pope and a bunch of his deviate subordinates.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I have no problem with gay men becoming priests. I really don't. I have a huge problem with gay men preying on young boys. But I have an even bigger problem with the leaders of this church excusing this behavior and/or covering it up. This has gone on for decades at least and heads should roll within the church itself.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Kinky, Hawk.

Do you have an issue with the canonization with Pope John Paul as this happened primarily under his watch?

I never posted the above. Someone edited what I posted. Whoever did it should be banned from this board. Mods should do their job.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Are you serious? I hope they crack down.

As Good Dolphin said, homosexuality and pedophilia are two different things.

I think I read a stat somewhere, 0.4% of the general population are pedophiliacs. In the priesthood it is about 4%. 10 times as many. That plus the centuries of non-accountability is the problem.

There are many wonderful priests (my uncle was a priest) and the church does much good. But as was also previously stated they have no one to blame but themselves.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

But majority of the cases don't involve pedophilia. Which makes the constant reference to pedophilia being the main issue, false and misleading.

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Over the past 20 years it's become cool not to believe. It's normal to wonder why.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!