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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:30 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

Quintana has allowed 17 runs in his last 20 1/3 innings.

Is that bad? Sounds bad.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:34 am

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IMU wrote:

The "stat" is flawed. It should not be used to show how well a pitcher has done. It should not be used to show how badly a pitcher has done.

The only flaw is completely ignoring a given stat. Everything tells you something about a guy.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:45 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

The "stat" is flawed. It should not be used to show how well a pitcher has done. It should not be used to show how badly a pitcher has done.

The only flaw is completely ignoring a given stat. Everything tells you something about a guy.

You ignore things that have become obsolete or been proven ineffective. Doctors used to bloodlet patients. Pitcher W-L used to be respected.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:03 am

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IMU wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

The "stat" is flawed. It should not be used to show how well a pitcher has done. It should not be used to show how badly a pitcher has done.

The only flaw is completely ignoring a given stat. Everything tells you something about a guy.

You ignore things that have become obsolete or been proven ineffective. Doctors used to bloodlet patients. Pitcher W-L used to be respected.

Just take the "L" on Quintana.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:07 am

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IMU wrote:

You ignore things that have become obsolete or been proven ineffective. Doctors used to bloodlet patients. Pitcher W-L used to be respected.

W-L, in correct context, is neither obsolete nor ineffective as much as you would like it to be.

Bloodletting still happens, though it is not nearly as common as it once was.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:11 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Bloodletting still happens, though it is not nearly as common as it once was.

Well, alternative medicine also has wiccans casting healing spells so I can't say I'm surprised.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:12 am

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FavreFan wrote:

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JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

You can pretend to be intellectual about this but it would just be pretending. In your heart you know the Cubs got hosed badly.

Not at all what Im doing. Im a guy who values prospects, Id be saying all the same things. JORR is different.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:08 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

Nope. I don't care about the players in return. I'm glad Quintana is on the Cubs.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:12 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

Nope. I don't care about the players in return. I'm glad Quintana is on the Cubs.

If this were Cub fans doing this, you'd be murdering them.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:12 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

Nope. I don't care about the players in return. I'm glad Quintana is on the Cubs.

Quintana is Clayton Richard with an accent.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:27 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

Nope. I don't care about the players in return. I'm glad Quintana is on the Cubs.

If this were Cub fans doing this, you'd be murdering them.

How do you figure? I hated Quintana when he was on the Sox. It's not like my feelings on him changed when he went to the Cubs.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:33 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

Nope. I don't care about the players in return. I'm glad Quintana is on the Cubs.

If this were Cub fans doing this, you'd be murdering them.

How do you figure? I hated Quintana when he was on the Sox. It's not like my feelings on him changed when he went to the Cubs.

Im talking about the fawning and banking on success of prospects. Dont play dumb with me, pal!

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:34 am

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Ban rpb.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:37 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

Nope. I don't care about the players in return. I'm glad Quintana is on the Cubs.

If this were Cub fans doing this, you'd be murdering them.

How do you figure? I hated Quintana when he was on the Sox. It's not like my feelings on him changed when he went to the Cubs.

Im talking about the fawning and banking on success of prospects. Dont play dumb with me, pal!

Pretty sure I have never mentioned Cease or Jimenez at all, and if I have, I certainly wasn't fawning over them.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:44 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

JORR must be blocked from this thread where Sox fans are spiking the ball on a trade with 2 guys who have never played in the Major Leagues.

Nope. I don't care about the players in return. I'm glad Quintana is on the Cubs.

If this were Cub fans doing this, you'd be murdering them.

How do you figure? I hated Quintana when he was on the Sox. It's not like my feelings on him changed when he went to the Cubs.

Im talking about the fawning and banking on success of prospects. Dont play dumb with me, pal!

Pretty sure I have never mentioned Cease or Jimenez at all, and if I have, I certainly wasn't fawning over them.

Ok, I guess it was someone else who said Cub fans get all worked up over prospects and Sox fans never do and usually are negative about it.

Im asking you to hold your meth addicted first base beating brethren to the same standard as you hold Cub fans.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:48 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

It doesn't seem to me the joy here is based on what a couple prospects might turn out to be, but rather on Cubs fans finally realizing and admitting what Sox fans already knew about Quintana.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:57 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

It doesn't seem to me the joy here is based on what a couple prospects might turn out to be, but rather on Cubs fans finally realizing and admitting what Sox fans already knew about Quintana.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:19 am

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Looks like Jorr is correct. It appears the joy is way more is Quintana leaving the Sox and arriving on the Cubs than it is over Eloy & Cease.

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=107398&start=30#p2753524

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=107398&start=60#p2753652

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:23 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Props to Hank being on the right side of history (for once) from the very start of the trade.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:39 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Looks like Jorr is correct. It appears the joy is way more is Quintana leaving the Sox and arriving on the Cubs than it is over Eloy & Cease.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2753524

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2753652

Should i post the 40 links of people guaranteeing Eloy will be a star?

Anyway, glad we can all agree that fans of both teams go nuts over prospects.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:58 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Pretty sure I have never mentioned Cease or Jimenez at all, and if I have, I certainly wasn't fawning over them.

MANY- myself included- have fawned over them.

Jorr has not.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:01 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Anyway, glad we can all agree that fans of both teams go nuts over prospects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:09 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Anyway, glad we can all agree that fans of both teams go nuts over prospects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:27 pm

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Small sample size. I will save my opinion on Q until after the playoffs. Same for Darvish. Giolitto and Moncada still suck though. :lol:

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KDdidit wrote:

In retrospect I think this deal will probably suck for both teams.

That was a weird take.

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Post subject: Re: Quintana 2018 Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:05 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Should i post the 40 links of people guaranteeing Eloy will be a star?

Anyway, glad we can all agree that fans of both teams go nuts over prospects.

My euphoria over the trade was in being able to call out Bob.

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Juiced wrote:

Small sample size. I will save my opinion on Q until after the playoffs. Same for Darvish. Giolitto and Moncada still suck though. :lol:

Plenty of sample size on Q and Darvish to have an opinion on their value. Giolitto and Moncado...not so much.

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Pack this assholes bags along with Darvish.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:34 pm

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HawaiiYou wrote:

Pack this assholes bags along with Darvish.

Cole Hamels had the same start with the Cubs in his first start and Cubs fans were ecstatic.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:00 pm

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Hamels was just lucky and got more run support.

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