Attempts to prevent female students from dressing provocatively. She is receiving pushback from both sides i.e.parents and the B of E.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chica ... ual-abuse/

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I'm caught out with this one. King has failed as a magnet school, the principal is coming from a failed neighborhood school, I don't particularly care for dress codes, and I personally and professionally don't care for Ms. McDade.

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Allegations of Sexual Assault and the rampant (allegedly) covering up of them are the new hot button issue. A few Principals have already been whacked over it.


Dress codes are difficult to enforce from a disciplinary standpoint and it is uncomfortable for those that have to do the enforcing.

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True. But it's peculiar how CPS is getting beaten about the head about an age old problem that is no more rampant than at New Trier, Plainfield or any other school district.

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We had a dress code back in the day. I think a uniform would have been easier but whatever. It was pretty relaxed in a lot of ways and didn’t bother me much. This was pre yoga pant area and I’d say the code was much more limiting to make students than female.

My daughter’s middle school Had a code too. And it was ridiculous and entirely geared towards limiting what girls could wear without th basically no limits on boys except no tank tops.

Dress codes are a good idea. Students dressing inappropriately does not help them learn.

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Wedding Dress
Salad Dressing
Dress a wound

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The school isn't failing. The LSC has been arguably the biggest problem. They have done fairly well despite their past reputation and revolving door at principal.

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the better solution is uniforms

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They sure worked their teachers hard. When I was supervising student teachers a decade ago, we had some at King, and the student-teachers and rookie teachers got there before seven and left after seven. They weren't even coaching.

It's too bad to hear that King isn't doing well. It sounded like they were headed in the right direction.

She should be. "Don't ask for it" isn't a sound policy. There is nothing a child can wear that would make ot okay for adults to sexual abuse them. She's a fucking idiot.

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A dress code isn't a bad idea but man her reasoning for it was fucking insane.

She sounded totally overwhelmed.

Probably shouldn't be a principal.

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Yep it happens everywhere. There will be more cases of it in CPS because CPS is one of the larger districts in the country.

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They haven't performed well considering they are a selective enrollment. There was also a lack of institutional control existent in the school. Kids weren't being disciplined for anything.

I presume that the new Principal will attempt to bring discipline to the school and the parents will attempt to pushback on it. I know for a fact that they had a problem with the selection of her as Principal.

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That was a bad look for the principal. Sounds like one of those slut-shaming dress codes where the first part is a bunch of general statements about "distractions" and "atmosphere" and then the second part with examples of inappropriate clothing is an itemized list of things that only girls wear, plus hats.

CPS is attempting to address allegations of sexual abuse and she probably thinks this is a good way to address it.

Problem is that there is too much of a gray area with that. What is obscene for one person may not be obscene for another.

If you are a male security officer you open yourself up to charges of being perverted once you pay too much attention to what children are wearing. That is the other problem that will arise. "Why are you looking so hard" becomes the argument if you place too much emphasis on it.

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They're near the middle of the 10 selective enrollment high schools and they are literally the only predominantly african american ENTIRELY selective enrollment school. They were trending upward before Hadiya Pendleton was killed but have plateaued academically. IF they could get some stable leadership they may be able to start trending upwards again. I don't think she is the answer. I don't know what happened to the appeal their former principal had.

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Like you implied, male teachers at my wife's school want no part in enforcing the "distraction" part of the dress code with girls.

He was a terrible leader. I'm a little familiar with him and their setup and personally witnessed a melee in their school a few years back. Didn't have clue on how to deal with it. Also used to try and coverup things by not documenting incidents.

As far as selectives go Brooks outperforms them and they are predominantly African American. So is Lindblom. King is in a better neighborhhood than either of those 2 and has been a selective for about the same amount of time.

Their enrollment has been on the decline for years also. There is also a tremendous amount of internal strife between the LSC and the parents. Not a good situation over there.

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Provocative attire is entirely subjective. A man and a woman will almost always have a different opinion. Clothes aren't an excuse for sexual abuse. You would think she would understand that.

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Brooks and Lindblom aren't? That's an actual question, not a refutation.

It still makes me laugh to see white kids from Hyde Park going to Lindblom.

Both have academic centers and Brooks also has a CTE program.

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Genuinely curious about the CTE program at one of the three other selective enrollment/magnet schools on the (far) south side.

On another note, I've always thought that King has been treated poorly by the board. Having gone up there a few times 5-7 years ago, the facilities were kind of crappy, and why they don't have a 7th/8th grade feeder program is absolutely nuts. For the small enrollment they have, they certainly have the room.

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I think there building capacity is 1500-1600 but they have an enrollment of about 500.

They are constantly changing their admittance standards in order to attract kids too.

When they first began as a selective enrollment there were high hopes but somewhere along the line they have lost their way.

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In contrast to Kenwood(an ostensibly neighborhood school ), a five-ten minute walk away with it's capacity of roughly the same, but an enrollment of 1800+ incl. the academic center kids. And with a former principal who threatened criminal legal action against parents who falsified addresses to show their residences inside arguably the smallest footprint for any high school in the state.

It's crazy.

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Yep. Kenwood's home visits were well known by MANY

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Their enrollment is down about 20% and their scores have been stagnant since Hadiya Pendleton was murdered. MANY parents fear violence even though she was murdered at the school. Then they had an absolutely horrendous LSC (that was Finally removed) that couldn't keep a good principal and as a farewell hired an awful one on the way out that barely speaks English.

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Kenwood may or may not be unique in its footprint--it probably is rare--but no one's been unique longer. At least, that's the way it seems.

David Nahrain wasn't really a good Principal and King is essentially the last resort for kids that can't get into better selective enrollments. Hadya Pendleton's murder has little to do with the perception of the school.

That school was off the chain. It was particularly so when you factor in the selective enrollment designation.

They tried to cover up a lot of the discipline problems by failing to document incidents and in fact they were called on one such incident involving eight girls that was recorded by a disgruntled teacher. The teacher later posted the incident online and the board got wind of it as well as got wind of the fact that the incident wasn't documented.


I personally witnessed a brawl involving15-20 kids which occurred inside the school a few years ago. As it occurred the former principal stood on the sidelines with his hands folded and a smirk on his face.

Don't know the rationale for bringing in the Principal from Robeson but I'm fairly certain that it had something to do with her ability to administer discipline.

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