Didn't read through the entire thread, but KODI with "modifications" has all your movies and tv shows all bundled into one. The sports channels are hit and miss, so you would still need an alternative. (MLB.com,NFL.com,NBA.com) You need a decent internet connection to view in HD, but has options for SD as well.

Satellite? ewww

Not accurate.

If you get one box and modem it's 9.99/month for rental of the modem.

and you can buy a great modem for under $75 bucks if you don't want to rent.

In fairness, you could work your way up to 30 by adding a second box and anyroom DVR

A couple of years ago,I typed in my modem model number on Amazon. I found a used one for 15 bucks. I never have any issues and knocked about 7 bucks off my bill every month.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

No matter who you are, it's always a better deal in the long run to buy your modem. Similar to your story, I found the exact model my cable company provided at $6 a month for a price of $22 on Amazon. You plug it in and call the cable company with the MAC address and you're good to go. It more than pays for itself in short order.

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You both are correct. The monthly modem rental fee is the biggest load of horsecrap ISP's have. I've bought two modems in the last 8 years or so, total cost was about $110. The only reason I bought the second one was that the first one was incompatible with the current Comcast firmware allowing speeds of 100 Mbit. Total savings of about $560. And the current one should last me for many years to come.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

https://sports.yahoo.com/cord-cutting-c ... 56228.html

Thoroughly enjoyed reading this. I hated having it crammed on a lower tier and having to pay for the Big Ten Network.

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Oops. Deal signed. Business as usual.

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All things considered, it seems like YouTube tv is the best deal going. My 2 year Comcast intro pricing ends next month. Looking to keep their internet service and go with YouTube tv.

The Xfinity tv platform is really nice, it's just too expensive.

As the article mentioned, the number of unsubs is the problem for the Big Ten Network. Wonder what the carriage rates are in the new deal. The Pac 10's carriage fees have dropped over the years. I'm an unsub and I LOVE not having to spend money on the Big Ten Network and shitty college sports.

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Projecting record revenue so not a big problem so far.

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Playstation Vue is the only one I've tried and it has most of the shows I'd like to watch. If they could add WCIU and WGN I would be just about set with the TV lineup. Comcast has a digital streaming service, but it only has 2 streams available. Before I switched to Comcast I bought my cable modem because there was no way I was going to pay them for a router. The nickel and diming people to death with the equipment fees is ridiculous.

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I suspect in the first handful of years the automobile became available for public consumption buggywhip revenue was at an all time high...

The tire manufacturers survived and thrived for longer.

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The point is that the cable TV bubble has burst and these leagues will never get the revenue they did in the past. There are simply less subscribers. Maybe they can make up the revenue in other ways but that easy money the league channels and professional teams were making is over.

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Nothing lasts forever but those days aren't here yet.

It's like saying HBO is going away. They are just evolving. The problem is that people didn't really understand that they weren't paying for the BTN if they didn't watch it. They were paying for their less popular channels. Go look at the channel lineups for most streaming services. Less channels and they all seemingly have a lot of sports still.

ESPN was overvalued. BTN was probably undervalued. I would drop my cable subscription the first day I missed a game because of it.

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Look Brick, there is definitely an audience for college athletics, Big 10 and otherwise.

The point is though, that sticking every 70 year old grandma who doesn’t know a punt from a load of laundry with 2 bucks a month for the big ten network is a dying revenue model.

The Big Ten and other content providers are going to move to alternative delivery means ( streaming, online, mobile, etc.) but that means either lower revenue, or forcing the consumer of the content to pay more for the content.

It's not really paying more though. BTN was far more valuable than the channels grandma liked. If 10x the people wanted it then it was worth 10x more. It is like people who get Netflix for kid shows who don't watch the original content.

As I said, go look at the channel lineups of the streaming services. The cheap ones cut out the fringe channels but sports still have a strong presence. That doesn't even get into the fact that cell phone and internet providers are starting to "include" content services like a cable company anyways.

The cable companies weren't stupid. They figured out the number of customers they would lose or gain and paid accordingly. That math will work in other ways the same. The question is will grandmas channels make enough to survive.

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How do you quantify this?

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By the fact that cable companies would rather pay them a higher rate rather than drop them. Cable companies wouldn't choose to lose money so Minnesota can get a new video room.

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If they ever allowed a la carte programming the cable industry would die.

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Do you know what the new deal is for? I see old carriage fee numbers at 0.50$ per month for BTN. And what are the grandma channels? How much do those costs per month. What are the ratings for these channels. You say that the BTN was far more valuable. How so?

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https://www.mlive.com/sports/2018/07/bi ... _warn.html

99% of XFinity Subscribers watch BTN for 0 minutes a month.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

My dad will watch Cubs and Blackhawks games, and even the occasional White Sox game. But he wouldn't know the BTN if Lovie Smith came to his house and bit him on his octagenarian ass.

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None of those things would change the ultimate point that the fees were justified by the loss of subscribers if not carrying Big Ten football in the states there are teams.

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What fees? Do you know what the new BTN carriage fees are under the new deal? Are you sure it increased? The Pac 12 Network has had their carriage fees drop 63% since 2012.

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We have some sort of antenna now too...It has a list of channels but not what's on and I don't think I can record things. It's got some channels I've never seen...anybody have this, something similar, or know where I could find a schedule?

Is it just like a regular TV antenna? So you get 2 5 7 9 etc?

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