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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I'm doing apple wood and an apple cider/juice spray.


I'm new to this whole indirect / smoking thing. A good friend of mine can do wonders with the Weber Smokey Mountain. I have yet to buy one of those (soon) so I've attempted a few rounds with my Regular Weber grill using the snake / minion method.

This was my fourth attempt and prior I had been 1 for 3. Well....make that 2 for 4. Won't claim to be the greatest but the ribs got just devoured by my kids and few friends that were over.

As you've sad....225 (or attempt) to keep it there. Rub with Spicy Montreal Steak seasoning. Apple chips / cider spray. done in 6 hours.

Funny....my friend bought on of those Traeger grills and sent it back. Liked the smokey mountain better. Lots of work to manually keep the temp right, but that's part of the challenge.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I'm doing apple wood and an apple cider/juice spray.


I'm new to this whole indirect / smoking thing. A good friend of mine can do wonders with the Weber Smokey Mountain. I have yet to buy one of those (soon) so I've attempted a few rounds with my Regular Weber grill using the snake / minion method.

This was my fourth attempt and prior I had been 1 for 3. Well....make that 2 for 4. Won't claim to be the greatest but the ribs got just devoured by my kids and few friends that were over.

As you've sad....225 (or attempt) to keep it there. Rub with Spicy Montreal Steak seasoning. Apple chips / cider spray. done in 6 hours.

Funny....my friend bought on of those Traeger grills and sent it back. Liked the smokey mountain better. Lots of work to manually keep the temp right, but that's part of the challenge.


I have a WSM and don't worry too much about temperature fluctuations within a certain range, especially with pork. The fluctuations are natural and have been a part of outdoor cooking since fire was discovered.

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So how did the quesadillas turn out, Doc?

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I agree with you on the wood choices. Those are my defaults also.

Ribs ended up as kind of a fail. I overcooked them. Mrs. Dr. Ken and I think we can salvage them in an Italian pasta sauce. She liked the ribs but I didn't really. It's hard to get a temp on those since the meat is typically not thick enough to trust the thermometer. They were OK. The flavor was still there.

Lunch was salvaged by the ribeyes. This is really the Dr. Ken-....fool-proof method of cooking a good, thick steak. Get a 1.5-2" steak and smoke it at 225 for an hour or so until the temp gets to 120, then char them on direct flame to your preference on the exterior (at least 1-2 mins per side). They are thick enough that the fire doesn't really cook the inside too much. I like to char them until the fat browns over/catches fire a bit.

I picked up a couple Ribeyes to grill tomorrow and am trying this. I've never tried smoking anything. If they suck I'm blaming you, Dr. Ken.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I agree with you on the wood choices. Those are my defaults also.

Ribs ended up as kind of a fail. I overcooked them. Mrs. Dr. Ken and I think we can salvage them in an Italian pasta sauce. She liked the ribs but I didn't really. It's hard to get a temp on those since the meat is typically not thick enough to trust the thermometer. They were OK. The flavor was still there.

Lunch was salvaged by the ribeyes. This is really the Dr. Ken-....fool-proof method of cooking a good, thick steak. Get a 1.5-2" steak and smoke it at 225 for an hour or so until the temp gets to 120, then char them on direct flame to your preference on the exterior (at least 1-2 mins per side). They are thick enough that the fire doesn't really cook the inside too much. I like to char them until the fat browns over/catches fire a bit.

I picked up a couple Ribeyes to grill tomorrow and am trying this. I've never tried smoking anything. If they suck I'm blaming you, Dr. Ken.


If you have the time, sprinkle some Kosher salt on each side about 2 hours before you throw them on. It will seep into the meat. Even if you only have 30 minutes, it will still work. This step is not vital if it doesn't work into the schedule.

For the actual cook, rub with olive oil and then go with salt and freshly-ground pepper. When the internal temp hits 120, pull the steaks, rub them with melted butter and a reapplication of salt and pepper to your taste and then put them on the direct flame to char.

Rest covered 10 minutes or so, and enjoy.

Then, it will be my fault.

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So how did the quesadillas turn out, Doc?


We didn't get a chance to get to it, TM.

I've let you down again. I am, however, known for my consistency.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

If you have the time, sprinkle some Kosher salt on each side about 2 hours before you throw them on. It will seep into the meat. Even if you only have 30 minutes, it will still work. This step is not vital if it doesn't work into the schedule.

For the actual cook, rub with olive oil and then go with salt and freshly-ground pepper. When the internal temp hits 120, pull the steaks, rub them with melted butter and a reapplication of salt and pepper to your taste and then put them on the direct flame to char.

Rest covered 10 minutes or so, and enjoy.

Then, it will be my fault.


Some chefs will tell you don't salt it between 3 and 45 minutes before you grill. It pulls the moisture out and doesn't allow for reabsorption.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

If you have the time, sprinkle some Kosher salt on each side about 2 hours before you throw them on. It will seep into the meat. Even if you only have 30 minutes, it will still work. This step is not vital if it doesn't work into the schedule.

For the actual cook, rub with olive oil and then go with salt and freshly-ground pepper. When the internal temp hits 120, pull the steaks, rub them with melted butter and a reapplication of salt and pepper to your taste and then put them on the direct flame to char.

Rest covered 10 minutes or so, and enjoy.

Then, it will be my fault.


Some chefs will tell you don't salt it between 3 and 45 minutes before you grill. It pulls the moisture out and doesn't allow for reabsorption.


Damn it, Spaulding! I'm a Doctor, not a Chef!

It's worked both ways for me. Cooking.

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It would get me closer than some of the doctors that I've had.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I agree with you on the wood choices. Those are my defaults also.

Ribs ended up as kind of a fail. I overcooked them. Mrs. Dr. Ken and I think we can salvage them in an Italian pasta sauce. She liked the ribs but I didn't really. It's hard to get a temp on those since the meat is typically not thick enough to trust the thermometer. They were OK. The flavor was still there.

Lunch was salvaged by the ribeyes. This is really the Dr. Ken-....fool-proof method of cooking a good, thick steak. Get a 1.5-2" steak and smoke it at 225 for an hour or so until the temp gets to 120, then char them on direct flame to your preference on the exterior (at least 1-2 mins per side). They are thick enough that the fire doesn't really cook the inside too much. I like to char them until the fat browns over/catches fire a bit.

I picked up a couple Ribeyes to grill tomorrow and am trying this. I've never tried smoking anything. If they suck I'm blaming you, Dr. Ken.


If you have the time, sprinkle some Kosher salt on each side about 2 hours before you throw them on. It will seep into the meat. Even if you only have 30 minutes, it will still work. This step is not vital if it doesn't work into the schedule.

For the actual cook, rub with olive oil and then go with salt and freshly-ground pepper. When the internal temp hits 120, pull the steaks, rub them with melted butter and a reapplication of salt and pepper to your taste and then put them on the direct flame to char.

Rest covered 10 minutes or so, and enjoy.

Then, it will be my fault.

Appreciate the tips. I shall report back.

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No smoking today but going with the Molasses Brats. Simmer them down to a paste and then finish them on the grill.

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Hey Doc - I’m smoking some St. Louis style ribs today and have a question for you: do you wrap the ribs in foil midway through the process? I’ve done that in the past and they always turn out great but I’ve also read where some aficionados don’t recommend that method. Also, do you use the water (cider/beer) tray with ribs?

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Hey Doc - I’m smoking some St. Louis style ribs today and have a question for you: do you wrap the ribs in foil midway through the process? I’ve done that in the past and they always turn out great but I’ve also read where some aficionados don’t recommend that method. Also, do you use the water (cider/beer) tray with ribs?


I do wrap them after 2-3 hours when they look like they've taken the smoke and have a good color.

I wrap them in foil with Parkay (don't use butter - it might burn/make them dark), honey, a drizzle of Tiger Sauce and some brown sugar and let them go for another 2 hours or so at 225 until they start to pull back from the end of the bone.

Then I pull them out and finish them back on the smoker to get a glaze on them. Maybe another 15-30 minutes.

I do try to keep a water/cider/apple juice tray in there to keep the moisture. I don't think it matters much what is in it IMO.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Hey Doc - I’m smoking some St. Louis style ribs today and have a question for you: do you wrap the ribs in foil midway through the process? I’ve done that in the past and they always turn out great but I’ve also read where some aficionados don’t recommend that method. Also, do you use the water (cider/beer) tray with ribs?


I do wrap them after 2-3 hours when they look like they've taken the smoke and have a good color.

I wrap them in foil with Parkay (don't use butter - it might burn/make them dark), honey, a drizzle of Tiger Sauce and some brown sugar and let them go for another 2 hours or so at 225 until they start to pull back from the end of the bone.

Then I pull them out and finish them back on the smoker to get a glaze on them. Maybe another 15-30 minutes.

I do try to keep a water/cider/apple juice tray in there to keep the moisture. I don't think it matters much what is in it IMO.

Hope that helps.
it does... thanks!

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Made a pound and three quarters pork tenderloin and a nice gratin to go with it. Prolly should have gotten a chutney of some sorts, but wanted everything to be in place for AAron's first big drive.

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Rack and a half of ribs been on a cook for an hour already this morning.


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Got a late start and have too much food.

3 different rubs on 6 racks of ribs and 20 chicken thighs.

Still gotta cook some lamb chops.

Anybody hungry?

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I tried the honey, brown sugar, butter, sauce foil wrap. It works better with the Memphis Dust type rub rather than a southwest type rub.

I was working a smoker, Weber as a smoker, and a gas grill.

Next time, it's just going to be the smoker.

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I'm smoking chicken right now, bought hickory and Misquite logs from the home depot..you guys wet the the logs?

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From what I've read and my experience today, no need for wet wood.

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I usually soak the chips I add in for the smoke flavor I'm looking for to keep them from catching straight fire. But, I can't say for sure that it matters.

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I used full length split log pieces rather than chips or chunks. Yielded a ton of smoke.

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I usually put a base of logs, typically hickory, for the heat.

Then, I add chunks of apple/pecan/cherry - whatever I'm looking for. Those are the ones I soak.

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Where can I buy good rubs? Or you guys make your own?

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Where can I buy good rubs? Or you guys make your own?


I make my own rub for pork. I think it's posted earlier in this thread. If not, I have it typed out on another computer that I can post later.

I guess I also make my own for beef. But, if it is a good piece of meat, I only use olive oil, salt and pepper. All it needs.

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Here's a great one.

Memphis Dust

¾ cup packed dark brown sugar
¾ cup granulated sugar
½ cup paprika
¼ cup garlic powder
2 tablespoons freshly ground black pepper
2 tablespoons ground ginger
2 tablespoons onion powder
2 teaspoons crushed dried rosemary


https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/ ... rub-recipe

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