Retiring one of my all time favs,,,and a gold medal winner

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Greatest bench player ever, correct?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Stud. He probably cost his team the first finals series against the Heat. Other than that he was one of my favorites.

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I got to see him play last year in SA. He is quite a loved player down there.

Quite obvious yours don't. Caldwell Jones was a much better goto guy than you.

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Possibly yeah though i wonder how many games he started while playing at a high level. Off the top of my head i can't think of a guy that was better for a greater amount of time as a 6th man than him.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Havlicek if you want to play the era game. If you don't, I say with great confidence its Jamal Crawford.

I think even Jamal Crawford would find that opinion ridiculous.

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Thurl Bailey and Vinnie Johnson were better 6th men than Jamal Crawford

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Not Thurl. There's only 3 guys who would change a game when they came in, 4 if you count Walton, and that's Havlicek, Jamal, and Vinnie.

Jamal Crawford's low field goal % and porous defense are the reason i give the other guys the nod. Its no accident as to why it took so long for him to participate in a playoff game.

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You could say the same about Vinnie. One thing's for sure. It ain't Manu

I love Jamal but he's not even qualified to serve Manu water during his HOF speech.

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agreed.

Jamal Crawford better than Manu

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I hope the money Manu made for throwing the Finals allows him to live comfortably for the rest of his life. I'll always remember him for that series.

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Topic was sixth men. That is what is called a role. It isn't about who is a better basketball player. It's very rare that role is played well. You LOLed at something that's obviously over your head.

Manu and Crawford played about the same number of games as reserves. With that being the case Manu had to be better in that role as well. No way he could not have been.

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no I understood perfectly what is being discussed and it is still laughable. Crawford is not close to Manu

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

You are fascinated with Manu's bag of tricks. Occasionally it works, occasionally, when against better competition, the bag of tricks gets shoved up his ass. He's a fine player but in the role of 6th man...ehh.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I'll bet you're also a Kobe guy, aren't you?

Manu Ginobili in his prime was holding his own with the likes of Kobe Bryant. During the same period Jamal Crawford was stat padding on losing teams.

Jamal Crawford was nowhere near the player or 6th Man that Manu Ginobili happened to be.

The Bulls became a better team simply by allowing him to walk and replacing him with a rookie by the name of Ben Gordon.

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Kobe was a great player, but I have never been a Kobe guy

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So many Kobe haters on this board. You aren't a real basketball fan if you hate on Mamba.

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Ginobli is a surefire HOF`er. JC is just a guy. Not sure what the argument is.

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Crazy talk. He KNEW where his bread was buttered. Pop and San Antonio. That's why he took less money to stay. He knew he couldn't have personal success elsewhere. You can't be beloved when people find out half of it is smoke and mirrors.

What does any of this have to do with Jamal Crawford being a better 6th man than him?

You also can't "smoke and mirror" your way to 3 rings if you are a vital cog as Manu obviously happened to be.

He was generally regarded as a great player that sacrificed for the betterment of the team.

Crawford was never thought to be a great anything and it took 10 years for coaches to find a role for him that wasn't detrimental to the team.

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It's Ginobili. Since he's a surefire HOFer, you might want to know that fun fact.