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JFC.. It's like 35% of Bear fans have lost their fuckin mind.

Danny Trevathan has played in 20 games in 2 years.

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It's pretty remarkable how out-of-town stupid you've been the past 3 days, America. Bears fans are meatballs but you've gone above and beyond. Let's use your hand-waving of the Rams as an example:

Donald, Suh, Brockers, Talib, Peters, Joyner is fantastic group of headliners. Their linebackers aren't as strong as the Bears but that front line and secondary is nuts. Add Son of Bum as DC...FavreFan being totally silly.

Donald obviously
Suh. lol what year is it

As this year’s Football Outsiders Almanac notes:

In FOA 2017, we mentioned that Aaron Donald and Ndamukong Suh tied for the most defeats among interior linemen. They nearly pulled off the feat again in 2017—Suh was one defeat short. It remains to be seen how opposing guards and centers handle these two together; our best guess is “not well.” They won’t even get a break with the two rotating out; they were first and second in percentage of team snaps among defensive tackles last season.



You're not great at this

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Never said that. But saying Trevathan is better than every player on the Ravens is one of the dumber sports related things said on here in a long time.

Equal if not better. I'm not assigning an individual score to each player. Trevathan is as good as anyone the Ravens are starting. If he were on the Ravens he may as well be their best player.

Just wrong. Like saying the earth is flat. He's not close to Mosley at their current talent and production level. I don't even need to mention the massive health difference.

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It's pretty remarkable how out-of-town stupid you've been the past 3 days, America. Bears fans are meatballs but you've gone above and beyond. Let's use your hand-waving of the Rams as an example:

Donald, Suh, Brockers, Talib, Peters, Joyner is fantastic group of headliners. Their linebackers aren't as strong as the Bears but that front line and secondary is nuts. Add Son of Bum as DC...FavreFan being totally silly.

Donald obviously
Suh. lol what year is it

As this year’s Football Outsiders Almanac notes:

In FOA 2017, we mentioned that Aaron Donald and Ndamukong Suh tied for the most defeats among interior linemen. They nearly pulled off the feat again in 2017—Suh was one defeat short. It remains to be seen how opposing guards and centers handle these two together; our best guess is “not well.” They won’t even get a break with the two rotating out; they were first and second in percentage of team snaps among defensive tackles last season.

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Hmm you think it might not be THAT hard playing next to Aaron Donald?


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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America wrote:
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America wrote:
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It's pretty remarkable how out-of-town stupid you've been the past 3 days, America. Bears fans are meatballs but you've gone above and beyond. Let's use your hand-waving of the Rams as an example:

Donald, Suh, Brockers, Talib, Peters, Joyner is fantastic group of headliners. Their linebackers aren't as strong as the Bears but that front line and secondary is nuts. Add Son of Bum as DC...FavreFan being totally silly.

Donald obviously
Suh. lol what year is it

As this year’s Football Outsiders Almanac notes:

In FOA 2017, we mentioned that Aaron Donald and Ndamukong Suh tied for the most defeats among interior linemen. They nearly pulled off the feat again in 2017—Suh was one defeat short. It remains to be seen how opposing guards and centers handle these two together; our best guess is “not well.” They won’t even get a break with the two rotating out; they were first and second in percentage of team snaps among defensive tackles last season.

You're not great at this

Hmm you think it might not be THAT hard playing next to Aaron Donald?

:lol:

Now you are under the impression Suh was a Ram last year?

Jesus christ dude, go read up on some nfl stuff and come back. The discussion will go a little smoother.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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Gosh guys suddenly Packers fans have taken a real, almost desperate, interest in telling us everyone(!) on the Bears sucks! Unlike of course the vaunted Packers who finished last year with *checks notes* only two more wins than the Bears.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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Eh, the Suh thing is my bad. I had lost track of him. Whatever, I'm not taking that Rams defense over the Bears. Not with Mack, he changes everything.


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Lol @ checks notes, do your notes say Rogers played 7 games last year?

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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Lol @ checks notes, do your notes say Rogers played 7 games last year?

So? To you are they are the class of the NFC. This roster of studs they supposedly have sure rolled over quick.


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I think Vikes are the best team, AR is the best QB though.

Vikes-11 Wins maybe 12
GB- 10 wins, maybe 11
Detroit 8 wins, maybe 9
Bears 7 wins maybe 8

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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It's like 35% of Bear fans have lost their fuckin mind.


And those are the exact people Westgate’s Jeff Sherman is targeting.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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The guy who pitted Woods v Phil?

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pace Scorecard
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This is a Reggie White type trade. Packer fans are all too aware of it and America has them on the run.

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This is a Reggie White type trade. Packer fans are all too aware of it and America has them on the run.


Except the Bears do not have B.Favre leading the offense.

:lol: my ass off if he gets hurt and the Bears get a top 3 draft pick. Not a fan of this move for a team that needs to keep rebuilding. It's like the Sale trade in reverse.


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This is a Reggie White type trade. Packer fans are all too aware of it and America has them on the run.


Except the Bears do not have B.Favre leading the offense.

Also, as great as he is, Mack ain't Reggie White

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Yep. Mack might be better.

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Yep. Mack might be better.

Maybe.

Let's check out their first four seasons...

Mack: 40.5 sacks in 64 games. Very impressive!

Reggie White: 70 sacks in 57 games. Oops!


Through their first four seasons there isn't a comparison between the two.

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At least Mack isn't a hateful bigot. Fuck Reggie White.


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Let's see how Mack does when he's not the only player worth a damn on defense.


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At least Mack isn't a hateful bigot. Fuck Reggie White.

There ya go. Go with that.

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At least Mack isn't a hateful bigot. Fuck Reggie White.

Nah his thoughts on gays were pretty spot on.


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You’re inching closer anyway, so why don’t you guys just come out and say Mack is the greatest defender in the history of the sport and better than LT.

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At least Mack isn't a hateful bigot. Fuck Reggie White.

Nah his thoughts on gays were pretty spot on.


He would absolutely hate the Rodgers/Manica relationship.


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You’re inching closer anyway, so why don’t you guys just come out and say Mack is the greatest defender in the history of the sport and better than LT.

He has to be better than LT to be valuable! Right?

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Through their first four seasons there isn't a comparison between the two.
Yep. Mack has made a Pro Bowl playing two different positions. Can't compare that with just a defensive end.

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You’re inching closer anyway, so why don’t you guys just come out and say Mack is the greatest defender in the history of the sport and better than LT.

He has to be better than LT to be valuable! Right?

Nope. Reading is a skill.

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Through their first four seasons there isn't a comparison between the two.
Yep. Mack has made a Pro Bowl playing two different positions. Can't compare that with just a defensive end.

FavreFan wrote:
You’re inching closer anyway, so why don’t you guys just come out and say Mack is the greatest defender in the history of the sport and better than LT.



Come on Frank, you know you want to.

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You’re inching closer anyway, so why don’t you guys just come out and say Mack is the greatest defender in the history of the sport and better than LT.

He has to be better than LT to be valuable! Right?

Nope. Reading is a skill.
So he doesn't need to win 4 straight DPOY awards to be valuable?

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Saying, truthfully, that Mack "might be" better than Reggie White when its all said and done is not calling him the best of all time. Quit with the strawmen here.

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