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Who is the Douchebag?
Whitney Young Prinicpal 21%  21%  [ 4 ]
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Whitney Young also has an academic center program. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of students that have been afflicted with "senioritis" are students that graduated from this program. Kids that graduate out of this particular program can receive high school credits even while they are in 7th and 8th grade. As a result they often have attained the necessary requirements for graduation by the time they become Seniors. There really isn't an incentive for them to attend school and thus MANY simply attend whenever they feel like it. What she could and should do is simply allow them to graduate in Feb and march in June if they so desire. She makes the call as the principal. I'm sure she has refused to do that (probably for funding purposes).


Brooks and others have similar Academic Centers and somehow parents aren't bitching their kids coming to school.

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I have a very good idea the name of the person that implemented this policy. I doubt that it was Joyce Kenner. Schools are graded partially on their attendance and if they fall below 95% then it effects their ratings. This is another example where an overreliance on statistics can be detrimental. Whitney Young doesn't need for 95% of its kids to attend in order to be thought of as a good school.


I think Whitney has taken some hits on that end over the past decade.

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Whitney Young also has an academic center program. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of students that have been afflicted with "senioritis" are students that graduated from this program. Kids that graduate out of this particular program can receive high school credits even while they are in 7th and 8th grade. As a result they often have attained the necessary requirements for graduation by the time they become Seniors. There really isn't an incentive for them to attend school and thus MANY simply attend whenever they feel like it. What she could and should do is simply allow them to graduate in Feb and march in June if they so desire. She makes the call as the principal. I'm sure she has refused to do that (probably for funding purposes).


At these schools the AC kids are largely in AP or on college campus for classes by their junior years. I was amused by how many of my sons' classmates spent more time on HS campus, eating or waiting on practice to begin as opposed to in classes. The attendance rule was in place, but it seemed more like a formality than anything else. It was treated with a wink and a nod, but most of the Young parents are probably too daft (or anal) to treat it similarly.

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Whitney Young also has an academic center program. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of students that have been afflicted with "senioritis" are students that graduated from this program. Kids that graduate out of this particular program can receive high school credits even while they are in 7th and 8th grade. As a result they often have attained the necessary requirements for graduation by the time they become Seniors. There really isn't an incentive for them to attend school and thus MANY simply attend whenever they feel like it. What she could and should do is simply allow them to graduate in Feb and march in June if they so desire. She makes the call as the principal. I'm sure she has refused to do that (probably for funding purposes).


At these schools the AC kids are largely in AP or on college campus for classes by their junior years. I was amused by how many of my sons' classmates spent more time on HS campus, eating or waiting on practice to begin as opposed to in classes. The attendance rule was in place, but it seemed more like a formality than anything else. It was treated with a wink and a nod, but most of the Young parents are probably too daft (or anal) to treat it similarly.


Now they call home or text if you miss any class and missing a few classes adds up to missing a full day of school.

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Whitney Young also has an academic center program. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of students that have been afflicted with "senioritis" are students that graduated from this program. Kids that graduate out of this particular program can receive high school credits even while they are in 7th and 8th grade. As a result they often have attained the necessary requirements for graduation by the time they become Seniors. There really isn't an incentive for them to attend school and thus MANY simply attend whenever they feel like it. What she could and should do is simply allow them to graduate in Feb and march in June if they so desire. She makes the call as the principal. I'm sure she has refused to do that (probably for funding purposes).


At these schools the AC kids are largely in AP or on college campus for classes by their junior years. I was amused by how many of my sons' classmates spent more time on HS campus, eating or waiting on practice to begin as opposed to in classes. The attendance rule was in place, but it seemed more like a formality than anything else. It was treated with a wink and a nod, but most of the Young parents are probably too daft (or anal) to treat it similarly.


Now they call home or text if you miss any class and missing a few classes adds up to missing a full day of school.


They've been doing that for at least the last eight years for high schools.

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Whitney Young also has an academic center program. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of students that have been afflicted with "senioritis" are students that graduated from this program. Kids that graduate out of this particular program can receive high school credits even while they are in 7th and 8th grade. As a result they often have attained the necessary requirements for graduation by the time they become Seniors. There really isn't an incentive for them to attend school and thus MANY simply attend whenever they feel like it. What she could and should do is simply allow them to graduate in Feb and march in June if they so desire. She makes the call as the principal. I'm sure she has refused to do that (probably for funding purposes).


At these schools the AC kids are largely in AP or on college campus for classes by their junior years. I was amused by how many of my sons' classmates spent more time on HS campus, eating or waiting on practice to begin as opposed to in classes. The attendance rule was in place, but it seemed more like a formality than anything else. It was treated with a wink and a nod, but most of the Young parents are probably too daft (or anal) to treat it similarly.


Now they call home or text if you miss any class and missing a few classes adds up to missing a full day of school.


They've been doing that for at least the last eight years for high schools.


I wasn't aware it had been going on that long. That would have sucked for me.

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Now they call home or text if you miss any class and missing a few classes adds up to missing a full day of school.


They've been doing that for at least the last eight years for high schools.


I wasn't aware it had been going on that long. That would have sucked for me.


That's what makes the parents reactions all the more laughable. But then you realize that this is the school that dropped football due to parent pressure. And I'm sure they reveled in the attention they got then. And keep going for more.

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One thing I am thankful for is our school has held out over holding Prom the Friday before graduation. A lot of schools around us do this to keep the seniors in line. Problem is this makes athletes have to chose between prom and attending sectionals or state in track. It also leads to baseball and softball teams having a 10am playoff game the night after Prom.



Played a tennis tournament morning after prom. I believe I had 2 hours of sleep, which was about equal to what my doubles partner had. Went 3-0 winning all matches in straight sets while taking naps between matches, it sure I ever played better. I’d die trying that today.

Our senior year second semester the school had a rule that if you maintained a certain gpa you were exempt from certain things, like final exams. Didn’t stop the AP teachers from assigning term papers though.


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Both. 8 unexcused is 7 too many.

This is idiotic across the board.

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Both. 8 unexcused is 7 too many.

This is idiotic across the board.


Once again, this guy gets it.

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That's what makes the parents reactions all the more laughable. But then you realize that this is the school that dropped football due to parent pressure. And I'm sure they reveled in the attention they got then. And keep going for more.


Also gets it. Nothing worse than a parent at an exclusive school (though, yes, the moms of said students tend to be hot).


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conns7901 wrote:
One thing I am thankful for is our school has held out over holding Prom the Friday before graduation. A lot of schools around us do this to keep the seniors in line. Problem is this makes athletes have to chose between prom and attending sectionals or state in track. It also leads to baseball and softball teams having a 10am playoff game the night after Prom.



Played a tennis tournament morning after prom. I believe I had 2 hours of sleep, which was about equal to what my doubles partner had. Went 3-0 winning all matches in straight sets while taking naps between matches, it sure I ever played better. I’d die trying that today.


You shoulda let me know. What you've got to do is cut the hamstring on the back of his leg right at the bottom. He'll never play golf again, because his weight displacement goes back, all his weight is on his right foot, and he'll push everything off to the right. He'll never come through on anything. He'll quit the game.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:35 pm 
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They must appear before the magistrate and no getting gout of it. .

Small government.


Outside of guns/hunting PA is anything but.

Be that as it may, why are you of all people advocating for more government involvement?


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They must appear before the magistrate and no getting gout of it. .

Small government.


Outside of guns/hunting PA is anything but.

Be that as it may, why are you of all people advocating for more government involvement?


I’m not. I explained the system here. You need a break.

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Whitney Young also has an academic center program. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of students that have been afflicted with "senioritis" are students that graduated from this program. Kids that graduate out of this particular program can receive high school credits even while they are in 7th and 8th grade. As a result they often have attained the necessary requirements for graduation by the time they become Seniors. There really isn't an incentive for them to attend school and thus MANY simply attend whenever they feel like it. What she could and should do is simply allow them to graduate in Feb and march in June if they so desire. She makes the call as the principal. I'm sure she has refused to do that (probably for funding purposes).


Brooks and others have similar Academic Centers and somehow parents aren't bitching their kids coming to school.



I'm almost certain that their attendance for students that have met their requirements is just as bad or worse.

Seniors that "have nothing else to play for" in better schools have year in year out the worst attendance in the school.


Brooks isn't threatening to take away their Senior privileges. Thats why their hasn't been much of a stink.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:53 pm 
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They must appear before the magistrate and no getting gout of it. .

Small government.


Outside of guns/hunting PA is anything but.

Be that as it may, why are you of all people advocating for more government involvement?


I’m not. I explained the system here. You need a break.

I read it. You want big government to get involved wit the parents of kids who skip school. You are suddenly a fan of big government. Just own it.


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Whitney Young also has an academic center program. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of students that have been afflicted with "senioritis" are students that graduated from this program. Kids that graduate out of this particular program can receive high school credits even while they are in 7th and 8th grade. As a result they often have attained the necessary requirements for graduation by the time they become Seniors. There really isn't an incentive for them to attend school and thus MANY simply attend whenever they feel like it. What she could and should do is simply allow them to graduate in Feb and march in June if they so desire. She makes the call as the principal. I'm sure she has refused to do that (probably for funding purposes).


At these schools the AC kids are largely in AP or on college campus for classes by their junior years. I was amused by how many of my sons' classmates spent more time on HS campus, eating or waiting on practice to begin as opposed to in classes. The attendance rule was in place, but it seemed more like a formality than anything else. It was treated with a wink and a nod, but most of the Young parents are probably too daft (or anal) to treat it similarly.



They don't want to miss their high school prom. I once worked at a school where one of the students told me if i pulled her prom that she was going to "blow this motherfucker up". Shortly thereafter I told her that she had better know how to detonate a bomb. :lol: :lol:

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Do they differentiate between excused and unexcused absences or are they just saying eight absences total?


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Do high schools still get some of their state funding based on total number of student-days of actual attendance? That's how it used to be back in the day, so my K-8 school district was always quick with the trigger for closing school for bad weather.

I was one of those kids who had met all my graduation requirements except for a 4th year of English class by the start of my senior year. But my school had a shit-load of AP classes, and my parents explained to me that if I fucked them up it would cost my dad $X down the road for a fourth year of college, so STFU and go to class.

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Do they differentiate between excused and unexcused absences or are they just saying eight absences total?


They differentiate. No school can punish a kid for an excused absence. They used to have a rule that as long as a kid provided a note then the absence was excused. That particular rule was abused to the point that it became a joke. Kids would bring a note whenever they were absent simply as a means of circumventing classwork.

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Do high schools still get some of their state funding based on total number of student-days of actual attendance? That's how it used to be back in the day, so my K-8 school district was always quick with the trigger for closing school for bad weather.


It is now a running average of total enrollment for the past few years. It used to be you could use an average of your 3 best months. Problem is in some schools you have 150 kids missing a day, but it is not the same 150.

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Spaulding wrote:
Do they differentiate between excused and unexcused absences or are they just saying eight absences total?

Did PittMike steal your login?

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They differentiate. No school can punish a kid for an excused absence. They used to have a rule that as long as a kid provided a note then the absence was excused. That particular rule was abused to the point that it became a joke. Kids would bring a note whenever they were absent simply as a means of circumventing classwork.


holy crap that's a lot of days missed. How do the parents not care?


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holy crap that's a lot of days missed. How do the parents not care?


They're pretty bad parents.

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