I agree with FF and America on Stafford. He's near elite. If I were him, I would demand a trade, because the Lions aren't going to be winning anytime soon. Patricia needs to be fired and put on weight watchers.

Wilson showed last night that despite not having an O-line that could protect him, he can still beat you one way or the other. He's a magician quarterback along with Brady, Brees, and perhaps Rivers. When he led that early Q4 drive for a TD, I thought the Bears were in trouble and that the momentum had swung to SEA, like GB deja vu all over again.

Flacco used to be great. I have not seen any of his games lately, so I don't know what to think of him now.

MANY underrating Cousins here. Dude is the goods. He has the accuracy and the arm strength

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His team lost.

I've been saying this for a while. Always thought he was good.

No Mult can hang with WWN

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

GOATS
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady

ELITE
4. Russell Wilson

NOT-QUITE-ELITE (YET?)
5. Carson Wentz
6. Cam Newton
7. Philip Rivers
8. Matt Ryan

OBJECTIVELY GOOD
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Kirk Cousins
11. Alex Smith
12. Matthew Stafford

GOOD, BUT SOMEHOW FLAWED
13. Patrick Mahomes
14. Case Keenum
15. Andrew Luck
16. Derek Carr
17. Andy Dalton

OVER-HYPED YOUTH
18. Jared Goff
19. Deshaun Watson

SYSTEM BABIES, DYING STARS, RAW YOUTH, "SOLID" VETERANS, COACHES PETS
20. Ryan Fitzpatrick
21. Tyrod Taylor
22. Blake Bortles
23. Ryan Tannehill
24. Joe Flacco
25. Sam Darnold
26. Dak Prescott
27. Jimmy Garappollo
28. Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky
29. Josh Allen
30. Marcus Mariota
31. Eli Manning
32. Sam Bradford

I think Overhyped Youth is the absolute lowest you can put Jimmy G. He's good.

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It is a little unfair that I'm giving Watson the benefit of the doubt but not Jimmy G. Garappollo has actually been marginally better than Watson this year.

Even with the pick 6, Jimmy G did everything he could to beat the Vikings. His receivers blew it.

Aside from Fitzpatrick, who is on the absolute cusp of ascending straight through the next tier to somewhere around 15th, and the bottom 3 you could order that last tier almost anyway you want.
Manning and Bradford are both just finished and Mariota looks like he's beat.

Was Mariota even a thing to begin with?

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For a little while.

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He looked like he took The Step in 2016 but since then has been hurt and/or terrible.

We can throw Baker in here somewhere

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Andy Dalton sucks. Shouldn't even be in the league.

Tyrod Taylor 21...no. Last night was probably his last start in the NFL.

I only count starters. Tyrod will find a home somewhere again, but he's off the rankings as Mayfield has clearly usurped him.

Jimmy G just tore his ACL.

STOCK UPDATES AFTER THE NOON SLATE


GOATS
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady

ELITE
4. Russell Wilson

NOT-QUITE-ELITE (YET?)
5. Carson Wentz -
6. Cam Newton +
7. Philip Rivers
8. Matt Ryan +

OBJECTIVELY GOOD
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Kirk Cousins -
11. Alex Smith
12. Matthew Stafford

GOOD, BUT SOMEHOW FLAWED
13. Patrick Mahomes +
14. Case Keenum
15. Andrew Luck
16. Derek Carr -
17. Andy Dalton

OVER-HYPED YOUTH
18. Jared Goff
19. Deshaun Watson ---

SYSTEM BABIES, DYING STARS, RAW YOUTH, "SOLID" VETERANS, COACHES PETS
20. Ryan Fitzpatrick
21. Tyrod Taylor REMOVED
22. Blake Bortles ---
23. Ryan Tannehill
24. Joe Flacco
25. Sam Darnold -
26. Dak Prescott
27. Jimmy Garappollo REMOVED
28. Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky
29. Josh Allen +
30. Marcus Mariota -
31. Eli Manning +
32. Sam Bradford

Let’s just put Mahomes #1 and get it over with.

Watson was great today. Lamar Miller was awful.

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...bruv. watson's stat line is totally misleading, lots of garbage time. he made one nice throw that was called back.

I'm thinking he gets to OBJECTIVELY GOOD, but cant put him further til he faces top 10 D.

It’s not misleading at all. He consistently moved the ball downfield and Lamar Miller played like he had money on the giants.

If you can’t say Watson was Objectively Good today you’re biased beyond hope.

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That looked bad.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

lol wut. Did you see the pick to Ogletree?

Yeah, he took a shot and it didn’t work out.

Did you see his other 400+ yards today?

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I get that the Packers game was on and you didn't see that almost all of that came in garbage time.

He had 170+ yards total at halftime. Your comment doesn’t work but I actually do realize that you aren’t watching these games and you’re just spouting off whatever nonsense you can. The Texans were never out of that game. 20-6 at the beginning of the fourth quarter is the worst it got and you don’t know what garbage Time is if you think that qualifies.

If Lamar Miller isn’t one of the very worst RBs this week the Texans win that game.

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Lmao

"Watson was so good the Texans managed 6 points in three quarters!"

Come on.

Cousins managed 6 points over an entire game to one of the two worst teams in the league. Your QB has 3 points agaianst the other one of the two worst teams over 2 quarters.

Make a point please.

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