Falcons/Saints last week and Rams/Vikings tonight had similar game scripts and end game situations. Difference between Brees and Cousins is the difference between Tier 1 and 3 and the difference in those games.

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Relax. He was in the playoffs last year. Where’s Carr been lately.

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League moves pretty fast these days.

Last year don't mean dick. Carr has everything to prove this year, but he is better that TT.

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Maybe.

Either him or Amari legitimately sucks. I don't watch enough games to know which it is definitely.

I feel bad they hired Gruden to that ridiculous contract.

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This is their 4th season together. OC changes aside, they should have better chemistry by now. I have a feeling neither player is a sure thing to be back next year.

Gruden has his own administrative and scouting personnel separate from Reggie McKenzie's people.

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Right. That’s my point. That’s a significant amount of time.

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Carr can be cut loose with something like 7-8 MM in dead money next year. Amari is going to want to be paid more than Sammy Watkins got. Can't see Gruden doing that if things continue.

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Watkins money might be a tough ask

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattwaldman/ ... 8247215105

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Furious doesn't approve.

This week is Martavis' turn for a big game.

I might root for the Browns on Sunday.

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Bernard Berian-esque.

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I haven't heard anyone say one good thing about Amari Cooper this year.

I think my Goff at #9 feels about right...

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Wow!

That's Mike McCaskey and Ted Phillips level of cluelessness there.

Hopefully Jon Gruden's contract has a number of outs. And then he's never heard from again publicly.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Raiders will be good eventually. Might take a couple years. I definitely think he knows what he's doing he just has a bad roster. McKenzie is a bad GM.

We gotta take an axe to these rankings America. I'll give it a go tomorrow while sober.

Too soon to throw Mitch in the top 10?

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I may have to go from scratch. I dont know who to put for SF still.

GOATS
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady

ELITE
4. Russell Wilson

NOT-QUITE-ELITE (YET?)
5. Cam Newton
6. Philip Rivers
7. Matt Ryan
8. Carson Wentz -

OBJECTIVELY GOOD
9. Ben Roethlisberger -
10. Kirk Cousins
11. Alex Smith
12. Matthew Stafford
13. Patrick Mahomes

GOOD, BUT SOMEHOW FLAWED
14. Jared Goff +++
15. Andy Dalton +
16. Case Keenum

CLINGING TO RELEVANCE
17. Andrew Luck -
18. Derek Carr
19. Ryan Fitzpatrick REMOVED

SYSTEM BABIES, DYING STARS, RAW YOUTH, "SOLID" VETERANS, COACHES PETS
20. Ryan Tannehill ---
21. Baker Mayfield
22. Jimmy Garappolo OFFICALLY GONE
23. Joe Flacco +
24. Eli Manning -
25. Josh Allen ---
26. Deshaun Watson +
27. Blake Bortles +
28. Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky +++
29. Sam Darnold -
30. Dak Prescott
31. Marcus Mariota +
32. Josh Rosen

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Goff is going to rise in a huge way. The low tier will again be almost completely tossed around and is definitely gaining a new member. Some guys are going to fall by no fault of their own and I have NO IDEA what do with Matt Ryan who is playing fantastic but cannot buy a win.

NOT-QUITE-ELITE-YET is going to be looking quite different I think. Mahomes has a lot he can prove tonight.

I was right about Wilson and Stafford

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

remind us what your positions on those two were

I have this really good feeling that you're actually wrong, probably about both, but I'll give you a chance here.

Wilson is not MVP material this year and Stafford is Stafford...debate that bitch

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Guess not biotch

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Well I cant argue with you on the Stafford one. MVP material is kind of an arbitrary term.

I still believe Baker Mayfield will be a star.

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Look at FF ...he's MVP....in reality if he took a knee during the Anthem he's another Kaepernick

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Time to put (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky near Carr

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GO BEARS!!!

That's a pretty bad opinion. Do you not realize what Russell did as recently as last season?

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I honestly don't know what he even means by that. Russell Wilson is a great QB. #4 is where he objectively belongs.

Why is Luck listed as trending down after throwing for 460 yards and 4 TDs?

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remember what Trent Dilfer did? Talk to idiots that value your opinion

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.