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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:15 am 
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Overseas in the Navy traveling by train through France with a buddy in 1985 - way before cell phones, apps, etc.

A couple of seats ahead of us are two attractive brunette girls all dolled up in Paris couture.

My buddy pulls out his English/French translation book and starts laying down a cringeworthy international pick up speech which included; "Le Train-o, Voolay-Voo Beautiful, Mine Cherry, etc."

The train car went awkwardly silent, both girls giggled and one replied; "Why don't you just speak English? We are both American and speak it perfectly."

I never heard so much laughter in such an enclosed space before.


My wife lived near the Swiss border for over a year working as an au pair right after college. Her French is very strong now and I'm sure it was really good back then. But it always takes some time to pick up actual colloquial speech rather than what you learn in your school texts.

My wife was in an ice cream shop in Lyon and when she ordered she didn't do it like a native, for example, "chocolate, sugar cone". She did it as if she were reading from a book: "One scoop of chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone, please." A group of teenage girls giggled and one of them said "Si mignon."

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 Post subject: Re: Embarrassing Moments
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one we went to Tile Outlet on Fullerton.
Just three blocks west of the Kennedy Expressway.

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Godfella wrote:
Overseas in the Navy traveling by train through France with a buddy in 1985 - way before cell phones, apps, etc.

A couple of seats ahead of us are two attractive brunette girls all dolled up in Paris couture.

My buddy pulls out his English/French translation book and starts laying down a cringeworthy international pick up speech which included; "Le Train-o, Voolay-Voo Beautiful, Mine Cherry, etc."

The train car went awkwardly silent, both girls giggled and one replied; "Why don't you just speak English? We are both American and speak it perfectly."

I never heard so much laughter in such an enclosed space before.


My wife lived near the Swiss border for over a year working as an au pair right after college. Her French is very strong now and I'm sure it was really good back then. But it always takes some time to pick up actual colloquial speech rather than what you learn in your school texts.

My wife was in an ice cream shop in Lyon and when she ordered she didn't do it like a native, for example, "chocolate, sugar cone". She did it as if she were reading from a book: "One scoop of chocolate ice cream on a sugar cone, please." A group of teenage girls giggled and one of them said "Si mignon."

It always intrigued me that a certain word or phrase misplaced could derail an entire conversation while overseas.

Growing up in a heavily influenced Italian-American home, I knew MANY words and phrases. When I got stationed in Italy, I was a bit cocky but soon got knocked down a few pegs trying to communicate.

I was there for four years and learned a lot. Slang and regional dialects dictate much of the speech pattern and phrases. I imagine this is the same with France, Spain, Greece, etc. After four years in Italy, I got by rather easily and was comfortable communicating.

Fluent? Not by a long shot. Honestly, I never really put in the commitment or work. I just wanted to be able to get by with ease and took my lumps when I said something wrong or was corrected.

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 Post subject: Re: Embarrassing Moments
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I was a bit cocky but soon got knocked down a few pegs trying to communicate.


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I was a bit cocky but soon got knocked down a few pegs trying to communicate.


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:lol: Yep - something like that. :lol:

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Just three blocks west of the Kennedy Expressway.

:lol: That's the one. I think we went by the Light Bulb Depot on our other jaunt.

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The French are way more accommodating and understanding of intermediate American francophones than they are French Canadians. Fluency is a tough nut to crack, I can talk, listen, read and write in French but I still wouldn't consider myself fluent. I am not sure one can ever really achieve fluency in adulthood, like even if I lived in Angers (or somewhere were English skills are zero and there is zero infrastructure for English speakers whatsoever) for years and never used my English I dont think I would ever really have the working mastery of French that I have of English.


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The French are way more accommodating and understanding of intermediate American francophones than they are French Canadians. Fluency is a tough nut to crack, I can talk, listen, read and write in French but I still wouldn't consider myself fluent. I am not sure one can ever really achieve fluency in adulthood, like even if I lived in Angers (or somewhere were English skills are zero and there is zero infrastructure for English speakers whatsoever) for years and never used my English I dont think I would ever really have the working mastery of French that I have of English.



My wife says that speaking Quebecois is sort of like speaking "English" with one of those guys on Swamp People. But she does say that one thing that is nice about Quebecois French from a native English speaker's standpoint is that the sentence structure subject/predicate order is often done English style.

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Not that I am an international man of mystery like you guys but I always feel like I get credit for trying even if I botch it up.

Last year in Barcelona it was a bit of a rough ride. My Spanish is rural Mexican and at times they looked at me like I had two heads. But I never felt like anyone was insulted.

I did find other ways. You can't be in that town for more than an hour without figuring out that soccer player Lionel Messi (good ole #10) is their guy. One night we were in a bar and a BIG match was on TV. I asked the cute millenial server in my worse Michoacán Spanish if this Lionel Messi guy is any good. I got a really cute "he's the best in the whole world." So after paying sufficient homage to him (including singing "Chelsea's Dagger" after each of his two goals) we were treated like royalty for the rest of the night, including some comped wine and appetizers 8) 8)

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The French are way more accommodating and understanding of intermediate American francophones than they are French Canadians. Fluency is a tough nut to crack, I can talk, listen, read and write in French but I still wouldn't consider myself fluent. I am not sure one can ever really achieve fluency in adulthood, like even if I lived in Angers (or somewhere were English skills are zero and there is zero infrastructure for English speakers whatsoever) for years and never used my English I dont think I would ever really have the working mastery of French that I have of English.



My wife says that speaking Quebecois is sort of like speaking "English" with one of those guys on Swamp People. But she does say that one thing that is nice about Quebecois French from a native English speaker's standpoint is that the sentence structure subject/predicate order is often done English style.

It would be like a swamp person's accent speaking Victorian English. It sounds kinda ridiculous.


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Not that I am an international man of mystery like you guys but I always feel like I get credit for trying even if I botch it up.

Last year in Barcelona it was a bit of a rough ride. My Spanish is rural Mexican and at times they looked at me like I had two heads. But I never felt like anyone was insulted.

I did find other ways. You can't be in that town for more than an hour without figuring out that soccer player Lionel Messi (good ole #10) is their guy. One night we were in a bar and a BIG match was on TV. I asked the cute millenial server in my worse Michoacán Spanish if this Lionel Messi guy is any good. I got a really cute "he's the best in the whole world." So after paying sufficient homage to him (including singing "Chelsea's Dagger" after each of his two goals) we were treated like royalty for the rest of the night, including some comped wine and appetizers 8) 8)


I studied Spanish in school for ten years. Michoacán Spanish seems to be the default for Chicago conversational Spanish. Most every Spanish speaker I ever worked with was from Michoacán. I'm pretty used to it and I picked up most of my colloquialisms from them. But I have to admit it's nice talking to city people from D.F. as they speak much more like what I learned in school.

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I was finishing up a sales call in the lobby of a office building and when I went to leave, I walked into one of the windows instead of through the door. Needless to say, I never called that account again.

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Just three blocks west of the Kennedy Expressway.

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Most embarassing - getting caught having sex in public twice.


Actually got a ticket for being parked on a parkway just after. Since I was away at school for the court date, my dad appeared on my behalf. He didn't realize what was unsaid on that ticket. The laughter he had to endure got me one REALLY angry phone call.

He didn't realize that a sitting judge would laugh so heartily when dismissing the ticket with an admonition to have his son to take his extracurricular to a private location next time. :alien: :lol:

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Back in the late 90s you could go to the hill in the forest preserve in Bloomingdale and nobody would be around. My girlfriend and I were up there for a while - and my best friend's father happened to ride his bike to the top of the hill. Lovely. Looked up, saw him - but what could I do? He left and didn't say a word.

Second time was down in Mexico in my ex's hometown.


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