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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl6GOxZsZsg

First track leaked off upcoming and ongoing Bootleg Series. This is the one that many Dylanophiles like myself have been waiting on.
Should be a mix of unreleased songs, studio throwaways and alternate versions of songs. My guess is it will release in November sometime
before the holidays. These Bootleg series have been hit or miss but I'd say mostly hits or partial hits. There should be a treasure trove of items on
this one. The original album was made up of recordings from both NYC and Minneapolis. They had the whole thing done after the NYC sessions
but after Dylan's brother heard the album he implored him to re-record half of it in Minneapolis. Often considered one of his best, it has been
anticipated for years.

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Just checked website and they just put this out after I made my post this morning..... sounds awesome. I'll be getting the 6cd Deluxe set.



Bob Dylan – More Blood, More Tracks – The Bootleg Series Vol. 14
to Be Released by Columbia Records/Legacy Recordings on Friday, November 2

Eagerly Anticipated New Chapter in Acclaimed Dylan Bootleg Series Unveils Previously Unreleased Studio Performances from 1974’s Mythic Blood on the Tracks Sessions

Single Disc / 2LP Edition Showcases Revelatory Alternate NYC Versions of All 10 Songs from the Original Album + Unreleased Take of “Up to Me”

6CD Limited Edition Deluxe Set Presents the Complete New York City Recording Sessions + the Five Existing Minneapolis/Sound 80 Recordings in Chronological Order

# # # # #

Columbia Records and Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will release Bob Dylan – More Blood, More Tracks – The Bootleg Series Vol. 14 on Friday, November 2.

The latest chapter in Columbia/Legacy’s highly acclaimed Bob Dylan Bootleg Series makes available the pivotal studio recordings made by Bob Dylan during six extraordinary sessions in 1974—four in New York (September 16, 17, 18, 19) and two in Minneapolis (December 27, 30)—that resulted in the artist’s 1975 masterpiece, Blood on the Tracks. One of the top-selling albums of Dylan’s career, Blood on the Tracks redefined the boundaries and structures of modern pop songwriting (a genre Dylan had virtually invented a decade prior), reached #1 on the Billboard 200, achieved RIAA 2x Platinum status and was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 2015.

Blood on the Tracks was originally recorded during four days in New York City in September, 1974. Soon thereafter, the album was mastered and review copies began to circulate. A few months later, Dylan felt the album needed a different approach and rerecorded five of the tracks at Minneapolis Sound 80 Studios beginning in late December of that year. While a few of the outtakes from the original New York sessions have been highly prized by bootleggers and collectors, most of these recordings have never been available in any format.

The single disc / 2LP configuration of More Blood, More Tracks assembles 10 of the most emotionally resonant alternate takes of each of the 10 songs appearing the original Blood on the Tracks plus a previously unreleased version of “Up to Me.”

The 6CD full-length deluxe version of Bob Dylan – More Blood, More Tracks – The Bootleg Series Vol. 14 includes the complete New York sessions in chronological order including outtakes, false starts and studio banter. The album’s producers have worked from best sources available, in most cases utilizing the original multi-track session tapes.

The only recordings remaining from the Minneapolis Sound 80 sessions are the multi-track masters of the five performances included on the finished Blood on the Tracks album. Each of these has been remixed and remastered for the deluxe edition of More Blood, More Tracks.

In his liner notes for More Blood, More Tracks, Jeff Slate observes that, “Dylan cut each of these amazing performances – some of the best he ever committed to tape – one after the other, live in the studio, without headphones, and without the types of overdubs that most performers rely on to make their records sound finished. Instead, on these tracks, we find Dylan – just a singer with a guitar and a harmonica and a batch of great songs – delivering performances that thrill you when they’re supposed to and break your heart when they need to…. The performances are also in the purest state we’ve ever experienced them. During the production of Blood on the Tracks, Dylan asked [producer Phil] Ramone to speed up many of the masters by 2-3%, a common practice in the 1960s and ’70s, especially for records sent to AM radio. It was thought that doing so would give the songs a little extra bounce to better engage listeners. Most of the songs from the New York sessions that previously circulated, officially and unofficially, are the sped-up versions that Dylan requested. On More Blood, More Tracks, for the first time, we’re hearing the songs exactly as Dylan recorded them.”

Bob Dylan – More Blood, More Tracks – The Bootleg Series Vol. 14 will be available in a single disc (or 2LP) configuration showcasing 11 essential tracks from the New York A&R Studio sessions.

Two previous volumes in Columbia/Legacy’s Bob Dylan Bootleg Series have taken home the Best Historical Album Grammy Award for its respective eligibility year: Bob Dylan – The Cutting Edge 1965-1966, The Bootleg Series Vol. 12 in 2017 and Bob Dylan – The Basement Tapes Complete, The Bootleg Series Vol. 11 in 2016.

The deluxe box set is a limited edition. After it sells out, no additional copies will be made. This set includes a hardcover photo book featuring liner notes by rock historian Jeff Slate and a complete reproduction of one of Dylan’s legendary handwritten 57 page notebooks, where you can follow the lyrical development of the songs that would eventually comprise Blood on the Tracks.

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The original New York LP is easily one of my all-time favorite albums. I can’t wait to get my hands on this. I don’t think anything will ever surpass the Complete 1965-1966 Recording Sessions 18CD set, but this may come close.

I’d like to see something similar for “John Wesley Harding”. Can’t get enough of that album.

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The original New York LP is easily one of my all-time favorite albums. I can’t wait to get my hands on this. I don’t think anything will ever surpass the Complete 1965-1966 Recording Sessions 18CD set, but this may come close.

I’d like to see something similar for “John Wesley Harding”. Can’t get enough of that album.


I have the Bootleg Vol. 12 six disk set that covers 65-66 which was plenty for me. Unless they come out with something that covers Desire I will probably
be done laying out big cash for these big boxed sets. Love all of it up to the mid-70s plus Time out of Mind and Love and Theft tossed in there. The only
Bootleg disc I don't have is #6. Interesting that you like JWH so much. It is a good album but don't hear it called out as a favorite from people much.

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Interesting that you like JWH so much. It is a good album but don't hear it called out as a favorite from people much.


I’ve noticed that. For me, it’s a tremendous front-to-back album that never gets played out, and then you tack on some of the highlights from The Basement Tapes (You Ain’t Goin Nowhere, Quinn The Eskimo, Four Strong Winds, One Single River, French Girl, etc). Makes for a killer 80 minute disc.

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Interesting that you like JWH so much. It is a good album but don't hear it called out as a favorite from people much.


I’ve noticed that. For me, it’s a tremendous front-to-back album that never gets played out, and then you tack on some of the highlights from The Basement Tapes (You Ain’t Goin Nowhere, Quinn The Eskimo, Four Strong Winds, One Single River, French Girl, etc). Makes for a killer 80 minute disc.


I'll have to dust that one off and play it again, it's been a while. I guess that is how I feel about New Morning. Lots of underrated gems on that one.
Did you buy the Basement Tapes Boxed set a couple of years back? That was pretty good, although I had hoped some of the stuff they found could
have been cleaned up a little bit better. I don't doubt they did the best they could since they had Garth Hudson helping them put it together.

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Did you buy the Basement Tapes Boxed set a couple of years back? That was pretty good, although I had hoped some of the stuff they found could
have been cleaned up a little bit better. I don't doubt they did the best they could since they had Garth Hudson helping them put it together.


Yep, and it’s a nice upgrade over what had been circulating.

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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/25/65979170 ... ies-vol-14

Sneak Peak at the upcoming release from NPR. Very interesting

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In anticipation of this release, I’ve been listening pretty much exclusively to Bob Dylan for the last month. I put together a 4CD set with upwards of 90 tracks from his 1970 recording sessions using Another Self Portrait, the George Harrison sessions, and the three officials (Self Portrait, New Morning, Dylan). It’s in loose chronological order based on the Columbia studio logs found here:

http://www.punkhart.com/dylan/sessions-2.html

I still can’t get into Self Portrait, but there is an amazing outtake titled “This Morning So Soon”. I can’t believe how awesome that song is. I’m also a fan of both versions of “Days Of 49”.

Self Portrait was basically derived from his March 1970 sessions. When he came back on May 1st, he was on fire. The second take of “Time Passes Slowly” is perhaps my favorite song from the New Morning era. The session with George Harrison produced so many great songs/versions: Time Passes Slowly, If Not For You, Song To Woody, Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues, Cupid, Gates Of Eden, I Threw It All Away, I Don’t Believe You, etc.

Then he took a month off and came back on June 1st to really get working on New Morning. The first few days were devoted to material that would ultimately end up on the Dylan LP. I’m not ashamed to admit that I love the following tracks: Mr. Bojangles, Big Yellow Taxi, Ballad Of Ira Hayes, and Mary Anne. Can’t Help Falling In Love is maybe a bit much, but I love his harmonica on that one. Some of this stuff was meant to be on New Morning, but with everyone talking so much shit about Self Portrait, he shelved the bulk of the covers.

I do appreciate New Morning more than ever. The Man In Me and Day Of The Locusts are great (unfortunately there are no alternate versions, although the former got wrapped up in a hurry). Like I said, I hold Time Passes Slowly Take #2 in an extremely high regard. My favorite version of If Not For You is the one with George Harrison on guitar from 5/1/70. There are a couple others where I enjoy the alternates and/or pre-overdubbed tracks a lot more (If Dogs Run Free, etc). The official takes for Went To See The Gypsy, New Morning, and Sign On The Window are unsurpassed imo.

So he was ridiculously productive in 1970. And every time I go through the material, something will win me over for the first time.

I did the same for 1971, 1973, and 1975. I have yet to dive into the 75 material, it’s been so long since I listened to Desire, but it never did much for me. Perhaps it will be different this time around.

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I thought Self Portrait was really good. It is a mess as far as tracking and feel. It plays more like an album someone would release just
to get out of a record deal by throwing covers and B-sides up against the wall. There is no doubt some garbage on there but a number of
great ones such as Days of 49, Little Sadie, Copper Kettle ( love that one ), and maybe one of my favorite instrumental songs of all time
Wigwam ( link below ). Love the horns on that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uC3fQsfxfQ

I really need to dust off New Morning and put it in my Jeep for driving around. You nailed a lot of the good tracks on that record. The last
time I saw him in concert he actually played The Man in Me which was pretty thrilling. One of the only songs in which he kept the arrangement
pretty close to original and I could understand the song. I think that was back in 2010 or so, I'd have to look. I wouldn't throw good money to
see him any more which is why I like to see stuff come out of the vault from the 60s and 70s.

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I’ll keep giving Self Portrait a shot. That’s what I did with John Wesley Harding, and it eventually became one of my all-time favorite albums. I was never a big fan of his “crooning” singing style from Nashville Skyline, and that carried over a bit into his March 1970 sessions.

Dylan is hands down my favorite musician, there are probably upwards of 200 songs that I enjoy from 1961-1974. That would include a lot of reworked versions of earlier classics, but I don’t think I’m exaggerating.

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Sorry, I haven't been around much as work has kept me busy, but Blood on the Tracks is my favorite album of all time and I cannot wait for this to come out.

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Sorry, I haven't been around much as work has kept me busy, but Blood on the Tracks is my favorite album of all time and I cannot wait for this to come out.


Check out that link to NPR to get a sneak peak to ten full tracks

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I did, the bootleg version of Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts to be my favorite of the tracks - I like it better than the album version.

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After the test pressing of Blood On The Tracks had been made and sent out to a few journalists, Dylan decided to re-record five of the songs in Minnesota with his brother as the producer. The master tapes and recording sheets were not available this time, so the full listings will be given later.

Sound 80
Minneapolis, Minnesota
December 27, 1974, 5 hours.
Produced by David Zimmerman

1. Idiot Wind

2. You're A Big Girl Now

Musicians: Greg Inhofer (keyboards), Bill Peterson (bass), Bill Berg (drums) and Chris Weber (guitar).

Released on the final version of Blood On The Tracks.

Sound 80
Minneapolis, Minnesota
December 30, 1974.
Produced by David Zimmerman

1. Tangled Up In Blue

2. Lily, Rosemary And The Jack Of Hearts

3. If You See Her Say Hello

Musicians: 6 hours: Greg Inhofer (keyboards), Bill Berg (drums) and Chris Weber (guitar). 4 hours: Bill Peterson (bass). 3 hours: Peter Ostroushko (?) and Kevin Odegard (guitar).

Released on the final version of Blood On The Tracks.


When I say that Blood On The Tracks is arguably my favorite album, I’m referring to the test pressing, and not the official version with these 5 Minnesota re-recordings. I also include the classic “Up To Me” on the proper album as constructed in my mind.

To say that the original NY recordings are vastly superior is like the understatement of the 20th century. It blows my mind whenever someone tells me that they prefer the Minnesota tracks.

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and maybe one of my favorite instrumental songs of all time
Wigwam ( link below ). Love the horns on that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uC3fQsfxfQ


This, without the overdubs, is fucking sensational. I waited a bit too long to properly dive into Another Self Portrait. Others that I’m really enjoying without the overdubs: Copper Kettle & Belle Isle. I prefer them much more in their naked form.

But like I said before, This Evening So Soon aka Tell Old Bill is my favorite song from the March 1970 sessions, and I don’t think that’s gonna change. I’m also warming up to these outtakes: Tattle O’Day, House Carpenter, and Railroad Bill. All cut on 3/4/70 along with This Evening So Soon and Days Of 49.

Also warming up to Pretty Saro even though he does the nasal crooning Nashville Skyline style. But it’s a very nice melody.

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Friday is almost upon us.

I’ve been listening to this on a loop:

If Dogs Run Free (Alternate Version)
https://youtu.be/208zqF7VAsw

Seemed lame at first, but now I’m hooked. Amazing refrain.

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The Self Portrait edition is a good Bootleg set.

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Just purchased this and should deliver via Amazon this weekend. Supposed to be my Xmas gift but I will likely give it a thorough listen and then
let the wife wrap it up and put it under the tree for later. Pretty much the only thing I am getting this year so I hope it is worth it.

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So this is incredible, I’ll report back on some of my favorite outtakes after I’ve had a chance to really digest everything.

One glaring omission, and this one is a doozy, because it’s my favorite track on the album:

Idiot Wind (Test Pressing Version)
https://youtu.be/eBLViMLws10

It’s not included on the 6CD set. From the YouTube comments:

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This version strangely isn’t included in the new bootleg series: More Blood, More Tracks. We have the core of the track but the organ overdub sounds different on the test pressing.


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Exquisite and definitive version of this song. The haunting organ takes this song to another level.


Yes, the haunting organ combined with Dylan’s emotional anguish - it just doesn’t get much better.

I’m not gonna say that I could have done better if I had the original reels, but yes, it would have been very easy for me to put out a more definitive release. There is no excuse for leaving this off. I have yet to read the thread for this at the Steve Hoffman forum, but I’m betting there are plenty of complaints.

The Blood On The Tracks test pressing is the greatest ”emo album” of all time. The officially released version was gutted - perhaps Dylan felt that the NY versions of Idiot Wind, You’re A Big Girl Now, and Tangled Up In Blue were far too emotional and therefore somewhat embarrassing, but they were absolutely vital. The Minnesota re-recordings are interesting, but come on...

I envy anyone who is hearing this version of Idiot Wind for the first time.

Check Disc 5:

Track 9: Idiot Wind (Take 4)
Track 10: Idiot Wind (Take 4, Organ Overdub)

Track 11 should have been: Idiot Wind (Take 4, Organ Overdub #2)

But it was not meant to be. As it is, the version included on More Blood, More Tracks has an organ overdub that is anything but haunting. Sounds a little bit too upbeat, not suitable to the emotional anguish being displayed.

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Just started disc 3. So far it is pretty good. It is obvious he doesn't have a lot of chemistry with those studio musicians in NY. I'm going to
give the entire box a couple spins in the next day or two and then have my wife wrap it up and put it under the tree after Thanksgiving. It
takes a while to absorb so many different versions of the same songs. I truly think this is going to be the last big boxed version of this series
I will buy unless some big thing on Desire comes out. Just getting too expensive and expansive for me.

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The John Wesley Harding deluxe will be a mandatory purchase because nothing from those sessions has ever leaked out, and I read somewhere that they have all the original studio reels in their possession.

The Minnesota reels for Blood On The Tracks have not been found. That’s why you don’t have numerous takes of the re-recordings.

We’ve been spoiled rotten with Dylan releases over the past 6-7 years:

Witmark Demos
1963 Tour (50th Anniversary)
1964 Tour (50th Anniversary)
1965 Tour (50th Anniversary)
1965-1966 Studio Sessions 18CD
1966 Tour 36CD
Basement Tapes 6CD
Another Self Portrait 4CD
More Blood, More Tracks 6CD

I was heavy into Bob Dylan bootlegs for a long time, and I hit a wall right around 2004/2005. All of these releases are glorious. Most of it was already in circulation, but the sound quality upgrades make it seem like I’m hearing much of it for the first time.

And Another Self Portrait has been a revelation. I hadn’t listened to the 1970 material for so long, I dismissed the bulk of it in the past, but there are so many gems. It’s crazy.

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I would be funny if there was a mix up at a Minnesota Public Storage facility that resulted in the Dylan camp releasing the alternate soundboard recordings from Dirty Mind.

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From the More Blood, More Tracks 400 PAGE THREAD over at the Steve Hoffman forum:

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More Blood, More Tracks co-producer Steve Berkowitz refers to the organ mix of Idiot Wind from the test pressing as being "very windy and wild" and that the one they used in the new box instead as being "more tasteful." He calls it "more tasteful" twice in the interview!


So this guy withheld it. There’s quite a bit of outrage in that thread, they’re calling it the “organ crisis”.

Still digesting the 6CD set, but the version of Spanish Is The Loving Tongue from September 74 is the best one I’ve ever heard. This is a shocking development for me, because I’ve always dismissed that track. I need to go back and check the one on The Basement Tapes.

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The Basement Tapes version of Spanish Is The Living Tongue pretty much sucks. There is no YouTube video because Sony is vigilant about removing tracks from the Bootleg Series.

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The Basement Tapes version of Spanish Is The Living Tongue pretty much sucks. There is no YouTube video because Sony is vigilant about removing tracks from the Bootleg Series.


I'd have to go back and look but I thought there was a beautiful and clean version on the Bootleg #10 from Self Portrait.

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The Basement Tapes version of Spanish Is The Living Tongue pretty much sucks. There is no YouTube video because Sony is vigilant about removing tracks from the Bootleg Series.


I'd have to go back and look but I thought there was a beautiful and clean version on the Bootleg #10 from Self Portrait.


There are two different piano-only versions from 1970 that are in circulation - one from Another Self Portrait, and the other from the 1971 Watching The River Flow 7”.

Another Self Portrait
https://youtu.be/f0LWI20nLFQ

Watching The River Flow B-Side
https://youtu.be/jVtn4bTh54c

So he recorded it in 1967 (Basement Tapes), 1969 (Nashville Skyline sessions), 1970 (on 3-4 different dates), and 1974 (NY BOTT sessions). The Planet Waves logs are incomplete, so I wouldn’t be shocked if he pulled it out in 1973 as well.

But the BOTT one is far and away my favorite.

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I'll have to check out the new Bootleg version again. I only heard it one time and I was driving around so to me it sounded messy but I
would be able to pick up on the nuances if I sat still and listened. The Self Portrait version is the one I was thinking of and the one I have
liked the best in the past.

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Oh it’s sloppy, but still very soulful. It’s his vocal performance that makes it my favorite.

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whiskey dick wrote:
Oh it’s sloppy, but still very soulful. It’s his vocal performance that makes it my favorite.


I listened to it last night again before I went to sleep and it wasn't as messy as I thought. You are right about the soulful singing.
Again, these sets are so comprehensive that it is hard to take it all in. That one is nice because it is the only version of that song
on all 6 discs. I was looking around YouTube and found a version of Every Grain of Sand he sang in 2009 at the show I went to at
the Aragon. Kind of fun to find that. Was really hoping to find The Man in Me from that show but nowhere to be found. I am sure it
is out there somewhere.

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