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Bowman is pathetic.

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The more I think about it, Stan should have been fired at the end of last year. I think Wirtz was afraid to lose Scotty.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Bowman is pathetic.

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The more I think about it, Bowman should have been fired at the end of last year. I think Wirtz was afraid to lose Scotty.

Scotty is over 85 years old. He literally can drop dead any minute and if he doesn't, there is a 50/50 shot he would have Alzheimer's or Dementia

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The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.

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The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.


He sounds very nervous.

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The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.

I like him, Rockford had no business being in the 3rd round but he got them there.

However, is he really going to be anything other than a figurehead under these clowns?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Bowman is pathetic.

FTFY

The more I think about it, Bowman should have been fired at the end of last year. I think Wirtz was afraid to lose Scotty.

Scotty is over 85 years old. He literally can drop dead any minute and if he doesn't, there is a 50/50 shot he would have Alzheimer's or Dementia

And when he does, Rocky will fire Stan.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.

I like him, Rockford had no business being in the 3rd round but he got them there.

However, is he really going to be anything other than a figurehead under these clowns?


You guys really get tired of me saying it but this really mirrors Pens recent history.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
pittmike wrote:
The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.

I like him, Rockford had no business being in the 3rd round but he got them there.

However, is he really going to be anything other than a figurehead under these clowns?

Eventually, I hope he gets to run the show. Hopefully Barry Snitch is there so the players don't railroad a guy their age.
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Ogie Oglethorpe
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pittmike wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.

I like him, Rockford had no business being in the 3rd round but he got them there.

However, is he really going to be anything other than a figurehead under these clowns?


You guys really get tired of me saying it but this really mirrors Pens recent history.

The Pens had 3 deep forward lines to go with. What do the Hawks have?

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At this point I will take a young coach who might possibly focus on developing some of the young talent.

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You guys really get tired of me saying it but this really mirrors Pens recent history.

Going through the motions of hiring the AHL coach doesn't mean much without other NHL teams trading you top-sixers for nothing like their brains fell out. What kind of magic beans did they give up for Kessel and Hagelin?

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At this point I will take a young coach who might possibly focus on developing some of the young talent.

^that's why he is the right coach for now. This team is entering a rebuild, even if they don't admit it. They need a development 1st coach now.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
pittmike wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.

I like him, Rockford had no business being in the 3rd round but he got them there.

However, is he really going to be anything other than a figurehead under these clowns?


You guys really get tired of me saying it but this really mirrors Pens recent history.

The Pens had 3 deep forward lines to go with. What do the Hawks have?


My point was cap issues then went with a unknown young minor league coach and a bunch of their prospects and said go win with the core. They added Hornquist, Kessel etc separately.

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pittmike wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
pittmike wrote:
The new coach sounds like a hockey coach so there is that.

I like him, Rockford had no business being in the 3rd round but he got them there.

However, is he really going to be anything other than a figurehead under these clowns?


You guys really get tired of me saying it but this really mirrors Pens recent history.

The Pens had 3 deep forward lines to go with. What do the Hawks have?


My point was cap issues then went with a unknown young minor league coach and a bunch of their prospects and said go win with the core. They added Hornquist, Kessel etc separately.

Hawks aren't near adding a player approaching the caliber of either guy though.

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Curious Hair wrote:
pittmike wrote:
You guys really get tired of me saying it but this really mirrors Pens recent history.

Going through the motions of hiring the AHL coach doesn't mean much without other NHL teams trading you top-sixers for nothing like their brains fell out. What kind of magic beans did they give up for Kessel and Hagelin?


Yes I replied to Ogie about that bit. Maybe Stan is more willing to trade for his coach now? IDK really.

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Ummm, in listening to the presser, it struck me that this was NOT Stan’s decision...

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No one wants to use the "R" word but this team is entering a rebuild. It would be better if they just admitted it and started moving guys like Crow (who would actually bring back value)

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Ummm, in listening to the presser, it struck me that this was NOT Stan’d decision...

Bullshit on that, this was all of Hockey Ops covering their ass.

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Score guy just asked a dumb question.

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Leave it to a Score guy to ask a question that is not understood.....

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Score guy just asked a dumb question.


McCub just got McDoink'd.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
No one wants to use the "R" word but this team is entering a rebuild. It would be better if they just admitted it and started moving guys like Crow (who would actually bring back value)


Idk. The owners probably want some playoff money.

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Leave it to a Score guy to ask a question that is not understood.....

my thoughts exactly when I heard it. :lol:

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Minooka Meatball wrote:
Ummm, in listening to the presser, it struck me that this was NOT Stan’d decision...

Bullshit on that, this was all of Hockey Ops covering their ass.


John McD seemed to have his ass quite naked.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
No one wants to use the "R" word but this team is entering a rebuild. It would be better if they just admitted it and started moving guys like Crow (who would actually bring back value)

We will see what happens in the middle of February. If Crawford is healthy and the team is obviously out of it, I would expect to see him get moved. They can give Delia a shot if they think he's ready and that the defense won't get him killed, or else they can make Cam Ward stand back there.

I'm not sure what other decent deadline pieces they have. It's not like anybody's going to take 7, and they'll never trade 2, 19 or 88.

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on the bright side, at least Forsling will be free from the hell Q has put him through the last 2 years.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
No one wants to use the "R" word but this team is entering a rebuild. It would be better if they just admitted it and started moving guys like Crow (who would actually bring back value)

We will see what happens in the middle of February. If Crawford is healthy and the team is obviously out of it, I would expect to see him get moved. They can give Delia a shot if they think he's ready and that the defense won't get him killed, or else they can make Cam Ward stand back there.

I'm not sure what other decent deadline pieces they have. It's not like anybody's going to take 7, and they'll never trade 2, 19 or 88.


The current roster can only work if Schmaltz the Cat and the rest of the young guys takes leaps in their development. Kane remains great, while Toews, Keith, and Seabrook are in managed decline.

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on the bright side, at least Forsling will be free from the hell Q has put him through the last 2 years.


Yes exactly. That is really why Q is gone. He just wouldn't play guys that need consistent ice time to see what we have. If all these young guys suck, then we are losing anyway.

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Somewhere in Europe, Jeremy Morin is popping Champagne corks. Then he remembers he still sucked away from Q and he switches to something heavier to drink.

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This is a really young roster, on balance.

https://www.nhl.com/blackhawks/roster

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