"You haven't shown me anything about them being worse except for the ultimate arbiter of better or worse"

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I bet there is a way we can see exactly what the discussion was regarding the Packers white flagging by trading Dix

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That's wrong too.

Anyway, you'd have to get into strength of schedule, and how the offense and defense each performed in the wins and losses, if you want to accurately gauge if they miss HHCD's presence or not. Lazily throwing out the records doesn't show me or you anything, and I think you're smart enough to know that.

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There was once a Packer fan who said this post trade:

How many wins do you think the trades cost GB? What did you have their record at the end of the year before the trades and what do you see it as now?

I'll say 9-6-1 before and 9-6-1 after. Same team.[/quote]

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Right, but are you trying to change the subject as a concession you were wrong about the HHCD point? Similar to the bet I made with Frank, that post was indicative of me being wrong about how good GB was. It's not evidence that I was wrong about the value of HHCD.

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Right, but are you trying to change the subject as a concession you were wrong about the HHCD point? Similar to the bet I made with Frank, that post was indicative of me being wrong about how good GB was. It's not evidence that I was wrong about the value of HHCD.[/quote]

The team was fine on October 31...then they weren't.

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So now we are back to pretending FS has the most impact out of any individual position on the field, and that by replacing HHCD with his backup, the team fell out of playoff contention.

Get a grip brother.

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i think i understand good dolphin's point.

When HHCD was on the Packers:
Offense - OK
Defense - Fine

When HHCD off the Packers:
Offense - Bad
Defense Fine

Hence HHCD's departure was a net negative on the Packers.

You and other Packers fans are trying to say that the Redskins are losing because of him and not because they lost Alex Smith and now have a QB who finished a game with a 0 rating.

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So the Packers were better with an injured Rodgers and are now worse with a healthy Rodgers?

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Packers fans be like;

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I never said they were losing because of him. I said their defense has gotten a lot worse since they acquired him, and it's a fact that it has.

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They are undefeated since they got rid of McCarthy. Using good dolphin logic they might just be the best team in the NFL now, since nobody else is undefeated.

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Any defense that never gets off the field sucks.

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They beat one of the worst teams in football.

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The Bears are undefeated since McCarthy got shit canned. FF must think the Bears are better than the Patriots!

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You're confused again Frank. I was making fun of dolphin's logic in evaluating the before and after of the trade. I wasn't subscribing to that belief myself.

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That attempt was as laughable as your belief that the Packers would be better without Dix.

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I’m legit confused as to why Bears fans are so distraught over HHCD and Packers fans couldn’t give less of a shit.

It's also a weird angle to take considering how dumb they sound talking up HHCD, and the fact that Rodgers and the entire GB team has sucked this year anyway and would ostensibly make a much better target.

I'll chalk it up to them not seeing a successful Bear team in a decade and therefore forgetting how to act when you have the upper hand in the rivalry.

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We're enjoying you all scapegoating him for your failure.

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i guess, for maybe a year. next year and until rodgers retires i see it resorting to normalcy. unless bears find a qb. then the rivalry has for sure swung to the bears favor.

I'm legit confused as to how you could have posted something like this when FF clearly gave enough of a shit to start this whole mess again; viewtopic.php?f=90&t=113803&start=450#p3117474

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well, ya, dolphin and you should've apologized to ff for your very wrong posts and thanked him for teaching you two about nfl talent evaluation.

Vikings fans like IMU probably would have had the class to do that. Wasn’t expecting that from Bear fans.

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I suppose it's classy to quote something that is 2 months old at this point, then pretend you are right about it?

Packers fans are having a very rough go of it. Bear Down, fellas. It's only going to get worse for you from here on out!

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Packers living rent-free in 1st place Bears fans heads. Sad.

The HHCD isn’t pretending to be right about anything. We told you all he was bad at the time of the trade, you mocked us for that, and you guys look silly since then. That’s it.

Take a victory lap over all the reasons GB sucks all you want, I would if I were you, just don’t pretend you and gd looked anything other than classic out of town stupid on this trade. Happens to the best of us.

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I'll take a victory lap all over your face. I never said Dix was good or bad. I said the Packers losing thier starting safety does not make them better. I was right. What gd said or didnt say has nothing to do with it. Out of town or in town there is one person who looks stupid here, and it ain't me.

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It is you. Everyone who has watched non-Bears games this years knows this.

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