I think that is a reason we haven't really gone back though. They found out the astronauts were exposed to elevated radiation during those missions.

Without the space race, do we have satellites now?

Radiation may have been an issue but most of the Apollo astronauts died pretty old no?

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Yes, they did. However, the prevalence of cardiovascular disease over and above "control" (meaning: non-moon traversing) astronauts indicates that the radiation dosages were much higher than expected/reported. So sure, those astronauts lived with the dosage and it only impacted them later in life, but there remains no safe dosage of radiation, and it can be lethal in all kinds of ways.

I can't tell if this is meant to be a joke or not.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Spaulding moving meters!

To be fair, saying the moon might not exist is a statement that will compel a lot of people to respond.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

No doubt. I am still floored that we have a fairly high resolution image of this



that's Mars...that is beautiful and such an amazing human achievement

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Mankind has really accomplished so much. It is part of the reason I really don't fear many of the problems so many give themselves ulcers about daily. Even just assuming anything less than the exponential leaps made in the last 100 years can you imagine what things will look like in 2050-2070 which should cover about the end for many of us? Or will it?

For better or worse I have a feeling my generation will really feel some medical advances extending quality life.

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Baines was basically Dan’s favorite player growing up, so he felt sorry for him because of all the blowback. Obviously he doesn’t regard Baines as a legit hall of famer, but his bottom line was that Hal doesn’t deserve this type of infamy going forward.

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After years of repeating that his "favorite player" was Ivan Calderon. Of course, it's just like I said. Bernstein is a Cub fan and that Ivan Calderon crap is just a thing to slam the Sox by juxtaposing him against the "great" Cub heroes, like the equally undeserving Hall of Famer Andre Dawson. Dan is the guy who loves to bash players for "making too many outs". Since Baines's OBP was about 40 points higher than Dawson's maybe he should be bashing the Cub. But a Cub fan wouldn't do that, now would he?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Dan can't risk bashing the Cubs anymore.

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Dan was probably a Sox fan because of NWA.

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Andre Dawson was an 8 time all star with 8 gold gloves and an MVP award and MVP votes in 9 seasons.

Harold Baines finished in the top 5 WAR on his own team 5 out of 22 seasons.


Your Calderon as a shot at the Sox theory seems very crazy to me. He was the best player on the Sox at the time and he was good. I could see Dan being a Cub fan but repping the Sox as a hipster thing...I guess.

Right. And now Harold Baines is a Hall of Famer. That's via voting. Subjective. What's objective is that Dawson made a lot more outs than Baines. The "too many outs" thing is a standard Bernstein talking point. Yet it's ignored when an undeserving Cub gets in and amplified when it's Jim Rice or, God forbid, a White Sox player.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Dawson was clearly better. His 90 year old knees dimmed his lights.

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GO BEARS!!!

Baines got damn near 3,000 hits on one good knee.

SOX KNEES MATTER!

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I know defensive metrics are suspect, but they certainly dont support that Baines was a good outfielder at any point.

Yeah, they are suspect. Baines was a top rightfielder at the outset of his career. He had a superior arm and played in a big outfield. It didn't last long as he broke down pretty early.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I think the conventional wisdom is that the first human that will live to 150 years old is on the plant somewhere right now.

Now it's not you or I, and certainly isn't "the Hawk" (both the poster and the HoF outfielder), but it could be one of my kids, which is pretty cool to think about - at least for me.

It's probably me

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Well that is significantly less cool.

Yeah, I've read that too. But would you really want to live to be 150? I doubt you'd be too spry. I guess it wouldn't be awful if you weren't in a lot of pain. But I'm 55 and I can already see a lot of things I like are becoming relics. What about when all the stuff you love is gone? And for most people it gets ugly at the end. I used to be afraid of dying. But now I'm more afraid of living (in a fucked up state of being).

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If you live to 150 you may see another Cubs World Series win.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I'd be down to live to 150+ if it was San Junipero style, which I am just assuming it will be with how tech is going.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Because of my offspring I would want to live to be 150. I'm still afraid of death. There is the arrogant belief that they will always need me and then there is the enjoyment I get from watching them grow in every possible way. I think they help me adjust to the changing of things that I liked. I imagine the older I get I probably won't be as flexible to change.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

2116!

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Tithonus!!!

Don't forget to develop a return to youth along with extra years.

Aw, don’t sell yourself short JORR, you’re pretty fucked up right now...