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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:42 am 
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I'm working under the assumption Harper is signing with the Sox and will be disappointed if its not true

I'm not sure the reality of Harper is as good as the myth of him


Why would you prefer Harper?


Who said I would?

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I'm working under the assumption Harper is signing with the Sox and will be disappointed if its not true

I'm not sure the reality of Harper is as good as the myth of him

He's a left handed power hitting outfielder who will have a high obp and 30 homers at the very least.


That's pretty valuable even if he's not the MVP 2015 version


looking at his record, I don't think you can just plug in 30 HR each year. He's surprisingly light in that stat

Yea, make that 25

Although at Comiskey it will be 30-35


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Take it for what it’s worth, but Manny Machado is in town looking at places with a realtor referred to him by Kenny Williams.

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Take it for what it’s worth, but Manny Machado is in town looking at places with a realtor referred to him by Kenny Williams.


That realtor must be a hell of an athlete.


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Offer the cubs Moncada, Dunning, Adolfo AND take on Heyward or Yu for Bryant and give him a monster extension. Bryce will be happy his boyfriend is there. Sign Keuchel. Give Avi a small deal back to platoon DH with Palka.


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Word on the mean streets of reddit is that Harper to Dodgers is a done deal.

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Word on the mean streets of reddit is that Harper to Dodgers is a done deal.

sowapatch really putting his reputation on the line

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If true, I don't get it.


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Cashman wrote:
If true, I don't get it.

Why not ?

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Word on the mean streets of reddit is that Harper to Dodgers is a done deal.

sowapatch really putting his reputation on the line


It seems like internet “insiders” are going wild this off season

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Abreu > Bryce Harper

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Isn't Abreu pretty much out the door with Alonso joining the club? He is apparently also Machados brother in law?

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Why would abreu he gone? If nothing else happens he can dh

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What does Harper do that's significantly better than Abreu?

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Win MVP awards.


1 great season

Abreu consistently puts up better numbers for a bargain price. You can pencil him in for a. 295 average, 30 homeruns and 100 RBI

Harper is good for .270/25/80. He isn't a great defender either.

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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.

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Nas wrote:
What does Harper do that's significantly better than Abreu?

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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.


Machado would be a great fit. He's more consistent and he fills a position that's hard to fill.

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Nas wrote:
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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.


Machado would be a great fit. He's more consistent and he fills a position that's hard to fill.



I think statistics wise, MAchado is the better fit, since he can play SS or 3B. Harper is more so the brand. Making the Sox a destination where FAs want to go, along with his attitude.


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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.


Machado would be a great fit. He's more consistent and he fills a position that's hard to fill.



I think statistics wise, MAchado is the better fit, since he can play SS or 3B. Harper is more so the brand. Making the Sox a destination where FAs want to go, along with his attitude.


Not sure that brand will get you much unless Uncle Jerry starts throwing around money like he's George Steinbrenner.

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Nas wrote:
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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.


Machado would be a great fit. He's more consistent and he fills a position that's hard to fill.



I think statistics wise, MAchado is the better fit, since he can play SS or 3B. Harper is more so the brand. Making the Sox a destination where FAs want to go, along with his attitude.


Not sure that brand will get you much unless Uncle Jerry starts throwing around money like he's George Steinbrenner.



A brand that gets national attention and a player on the cover of a baseball game.


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Cashman wrote:
Nas wrote:
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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.


Machado would be a great fit. He's more consistent and he fills a position that's hard to fill.



I think statistics wise, MAchado is the better fit, since he can play SS or 3B. Harper is more so the brand. Making the Sox a destination where FAs want to go, along with his attitude.


Not sure that brand will get you much unless Uncle Jerry starts throwing around money like he's George Steinbrenner.



A brand that gets national attention and a player on the cover of a baseball game.


I think it was The Kapman on STL who was saying that Brooks Boyer and the entire Sox Marketing Team were brainstorming the possible lucrative/popular deals and promotions they could establish with a Harper Brand. As I'm sure every other team as well.

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Cashman wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.


Machado would be a great fit. He's more consistent and he fills a position that's hard to fill.



I think statistics wise, MAchado is the better fit, since he can play SS or 3B. Harper is more so the brand. Making the Sox a destination where FAs want to go, along with his attitude.


Not sure that brand will get you much unless Uncle Jerry starts throwing around money like he's George Steinbrenner.



A brand that gets national attention and a player on the cover of a baseball game.


The Sox won a WS with the most dominant playoff run we've seen and they're still excluded from talk about WS teams. Frank Thomas is arguably the best right handed hitter in history and he has to remind the "experts" that he played baseball. It's insane. I'm not sure a .265 hitter with 27 home runs and 83 RBI will change that. You very well may be right though.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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I can easily see Machado on the Sox but there is just no way Harper is going there. He wants the national spotlight all over him. I can't imagine he started this process with anyone other than the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers being a realistic destination.....maybe the Angels because they get some spotlight and Artie loves throwing stupid money at people.


Machado would be a great fit. He's more consistent and he fills a position that's hard to fill.



I think statistics wise, MAchado is the better fit, since he can play SS or 3B. Harper is more so the brand. Making the Sox a destination where FAs want to go, along with his attitude.


Not sure that brand will get you much unless Uncle Jerry starts throwing around money like he's George Steinbrenner.



A brand that gets national attention and a player on the cover of a baseball game.


The Sox won a WS with the most dominant playoff run we've seen and they're still excluded from talk about WS teams. Frank Thomas is arguably the best right handed hitter in history and he has to remind the "experts" that he played baseball. It's insane. I'm not sure a .265 hitter with 27 home runs and 83 RBI will change that. You very well may be right though.



WTF has Washington done? Yet you know Harper's name if you are a casual fan. That is the point. This would almost be like adding Ichiro with all the extra national income.


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Teams just pitched around Harp, Put Abreu behind him in the 3 or 4 hole and watch his numbers explode.

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WTF has Washington done? Yet you know Harper's name if you are a casual fan. That is the point. This would almost be like adding Ichiro with all the extra national income.


I hear you. Washington is still on the east coast though. Those teams are generally covered different.

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OMG. Stop it with this crazy talk about Machado and Harper coming to the White Sox. Never going to happen. This is Jerry Reinsdorf we are talking about. As I have said before, even adding a Harper still does not make this team an even 80 win team. Their starting pitching stinks, their bull-pen is shaky, they have no catchers worth a shit and their everyday line-up will have maybe four decent hitter in it.

Their only hope is for the Hahn "prospects" to turn out better than expected and fr them to get new leadership, starting with their reptilian owner.

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OMG. Stop it with this crazy talk about Machado and Harper coming to the White Sox. Never going to happen. This is Jerry Reinsdorf we are talking about. As I have said before, even adding a Harper still does not make this team an even 80 win team. Their starting pitching stinks, their bull-pen is shaky, they have no catchers worth a shit and their everyday line-up will have maybe four decent hitter in it.

Their only hope is for the Hahn "prospects" to turn out better than expected and fr them to get new leadership, starting with their reptilian owner.

My Meatball-Fanatic-Heart wants to disagree with you 100%, Hawk.

However, my Sober-Straight-Thinking-Head tells me you are most likely correct. :(

Signing Harper (or anyone) to a 10 year 300+ million dollar contract goes against everything we know about the Sox ownership.

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I don't think the Sox will get him either, but Reinsdorph rep is shit. Look at the Bulls and Sox, both abysmally bad and disfunctional. He should make a big move for that reason alone. Eloy and Harp and Abreu is real nice punch in any lineup.

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