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The growth shown in this year got me from a week 1 non-fan to a playoff Tru-fan. He really has progressed. I feel good we have a solid guy going forward... maybe Rivers-esque... maybe better.

Wow, that’s a bad take. He’s not even close to Rivers.

Ya there is no way in hell he is ever going to do that. Rivers read that defense every damn play and called out line changes, route changes and executed it to a very slow perfection. They had 7 or 8 guys up on the line and he had to figure out who the hell was doing what and give assigments while the playclock was winding down. His performance today was awesome. It was like watching a slow moving amoeba eat something to death.


how about in 4 years? I think Mitch can do that.


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Rivers is one of the best QB's in NFL history. Just throwing that out there.

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The growth shown in this year got me from a week 1 non-fan to a playoff Tru-fan. He really has progressed. I feel good we have a solid guy going forward... maybe Rivers-esque... maybe better.

Wow, that’s a bad take. He’s not even close to Rivers.

Ya there is no way in hell he is ever going to do that. Rivers read that defense every damn play and called out line changes, route changes and executed it to a very slow perfection. They had 7 or 8 guys up on the line and he had to figure out who the hell was doing what and give assigments while the playclock was winding down. His performance today was awesome. It was like watching a slow moving amoeba eat something to death.


how about in 4 years? I think Mitch can do that.

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About a 100x better than I did at having x amount more years of Jay when he first started here.

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Mitch is a Porsche you overpaid for; brought it home and find out it tops out at 80 mph instead of 150. Can't return it. You do find out that if you load it with a bunch of enhancements and press the gas a certain way you can get it up to like 110. But you're still salty about paying what you did for it.

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Mitch is a Porsche you overpaid for; brought it home and find out it tops out at 80 mph instead of 150. Can't return it. You do find out that if you load it with a bunch of enhancements and press the gas a certain way you can get it up to like 110. But you're still salty about paying what you did for it.



didnt you just describe super bowl champion qb nick foles?


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Tom Brady was winning Super Bowls at this point in his career. Don’t see Mitch doing that. BUST!

Still can’t tell if umn was trolling or not. I think he was but good job either way.

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The biggest problem I see out of him, is staring down his 1st option on each play.


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Trubinsky is a JAG. Case Keenum but drafted in the top-5.

Pair him with a top tier defense and you’ll make the playoffs. Expect him to be the reason you win and you’ll never get anywhere.


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I don't get all the Phillip Rivers dick sucking to be honest. Dude hasn't won shit in his career.


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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky made huge strides this year. He was inconsistent but at this stage of his career that is to be expected. He will at worst be an average NFL starter and would only require a little bit more consistency to be a very good one. Don't forget that most of you were willing to write him off after his relatively poor rookie year.

It is a flawed metric but how can you not be excited about a guy who took his QB rating from 77.3 to 95.4 in his second year and showed a lot of ability to run too for a quarterback.

Even a relatively minor improvement next year probably gives him 30+ touchdowns especially since Nagy will likely stop holding him back unless he truly is the next Andy Reid who has no idea how to not lock up in clutch situations.

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky made huge strides this year. He was inconsistent but at this stage of his career that is to be expected. He will at worst be an average NFL starter and would only require a little bit more consistency to be a very good one. Don't forget that most of you were willing to write him off after his relatively poor rookie year.

It is a flawed metric but how can you not be excited about a guy who took his QB rating from 77.3 to 95.4 in his second year and showed a lot of ability to run too for a quarterback.

Even a relatively minor improvement next year probably gives him 30+ touchdowns especially since Nagy will likely stop holding him back unless he truly is the next Andy Reid who has no idea how to not lock up in clutch situations.


There's a reason some QBs are held back. We know (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky struggles with accuracy on everything outside of a shovel pass. He also was top ten in interceptions despite missing two games. Maybe Nagy knows what he's doing in holding him back.

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There's a reason some QBs are held back. We know (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky struggles with accuracy on everything outside of a shovel pass. He also was top ten in interceptions despite missing two games. Maybe Nagy knows what he's doing in holding him back.
He was held back because he was a second year player in a new offense. His interception percentage is on the higher side but not really remarkable especially for a second year player. Even future hall of famer Mahomes was at 2.1 whereas (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was at 2.8. That number will come down with experience too.

It seems like you think this will be a career year for him. Do you think he will get any better than this?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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There's a reason some QBs are held back. We know (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky struggles with accuracy on everything outside of a shovel pass. He also was top ten in interceptions despite missing two games. Maybe Nagy knows what he's doing in holding him back.
He was held back because he was a second year player in a new offense. His interception percentage is on the higher side but not really remarkable especially for a second year player. Even future hall of famer Mahomes was at 2.1 whereas (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was at 2.8. That number will come down with experience too.

It seems like you think this will be a career year for him. Do you think he will get any better than this?

He will continue to improve. He didn't have a less than average performance in his first playoff game, but he drove them down with less than a minute and put them in position to win with a make-able field goal. Had a nice touch on some throws but wuss-armed some other throws that could have been touchdowns.


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I feel like he’s the same inconsistent shit we’ve seen for the last 15 years. They’ll be lucky to finish .500 with a first place schedule next season.

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Mitch will be great. Everyone relax.


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I look at it this way: The touch throws down field that Collinsworth was raving about, I think there was one in the first half and two in the second? Yeah, those are overthrown INT's earlier in the year from Mitch, but he showed off the touch of a veteran NFL QB late in his first playoff game.


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There's a reason some QBs are held back. We know (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky struggles with accuracy on everything outside of a shovel pass. He also was top ten in interceptions despite missing two games. Maybe Nagy knows what he's doing in holding him back.
He was held back because he was a second year player in a new offense. His interception percentage is on the higher side but not really remarkable especially for a second year player. Even future hall of famer Mahomes was at 2.1 whereas (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was at 2.8. That number will come down with experience too.

It seems like you think this will be a career year for him. Do you think he will get any better than this?

He will continue to improve. He didn't have a less than average performance in his first playoff game, but he drove them down with less than a minute and put them in position to win with a make-able field goal. Had a nice touch on some throws but wuss-armed some other throws that could have been touchdowns.


For all the talk about being a second year player etc in a new offense, I'm not even sure (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had a better year than Baker Mayfield. I wouldn't bring up Mahomes though: in about 120+ more attempts he threw as many INTs as (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and 26 more TDs.

I don't think things are going to get exponentially better with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. For me I'm fine saying he'll never justify his draft pick status. He may max out at being a solid third tier QB along the likes of Cousins, Tannehill, Flacco, etc. Not a superstar. Had we drafted him in the second round or late first round then I'd be fine with his performance and short comings. But you should expect superstar at no. 2 plus everything else the Bears paid to grab him.

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He had a good year. I think he'll be even better next year.


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For all the talk about being a second year player etc in a new offense, I'm not even sure (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had a better year than Baker Mayfield. I wouldn't bring up Mahomes though: in about 120+ more attempts he threw as many INTs as (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and 26 more TDs.

I don't think things are going to get exponentially better with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. For me I'm fine saying he'll never justify his draft pick status. He may max out at being a solid third tier QB along the likes of Cousins, Tannehill, Flacco, etc. Not a superstar. Had we drafted him in the second round or late first round then I'd be fine with his performance and short comings. But you should expect superstar at no. 2 plus everything else the Bears paid to grab him.


A lot of what you say is true, but

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I don't get all the Phillip Rivers dick sucking to be honest. Dude hasn't won shit in his career.

Neither did Dan Marino you idiot . You should probably stick to Jooish and Asian slurs and leave the sports posting to people with brains .

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I don't get all the Phillip Rivers dick sucking to be honest. Dude hasn't won shit in his career.

Neither did Dan Marino you idiot . You should probably stick to Jooish and Asian slurs and leave the sports posting to people with brains .

Marino actually made a Superbowl dipshit. Go back to shooting minorities on the job.


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Yeah. Mitch isn’t anything special. This was the season to have a crazy Flacco run and make sure you get paid. I’m so low right now, it might be another 9 years before they make the playoffs again.

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Drew Brees sucked ass for 4 seasons, you never know with QB's. If he can learn to get through his progressions a bit quicker, he will be fine. He's good enough to get to playoffs year in and year out with the Bear's D now. If either he or the D gets a little bit better, than can compete for a SB.


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Drew Brees sucked ass for 4 seasons, you never know with QB's. If he can learn to get through his progressions a bit quicker, he will be fine. He's good enough to get to playoffs year in and year out with the Bear's D now. If either he or the D gets a little bit better, than can compete for a SB.

Not true. Had one mediocre year, one bad one and two good ones in SD.


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Drew Brees sucked ass for 4 seasons, you never know with QB's. If he can learn to get through his progressions a bit quicker, he will be fine. He's good enough to get to playoffs year in and year out with the Bear's D now. If either he or the D gets a little bit better, than can compete for a SB.

Not true. Had one mediocre year, one bad one and two good ones in SD.


Looking at Mitch's stats, this year stacks up pretty nicely with Brees' first 4 seasons in SD. And Mitch is younger.


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Drew Brees sucked ass for 4 seasons, you never know with QB's. If he can learn to get through his progressions a bit quicker, he will be fine. He's good enough to get to playoffs year in and year out with the Bear's D now. If either he or the D gets a little bit better, than can compete for a SB.

Not true. Had one mediocre year, one bad one and two good ones in SD.


And he was in SD for 5 seasons.


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For all the talk about being a second year player etc in a new offense, I'm not even sure (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had a better year than Baker Mayfield. I wouldn't bring up Mahomes though: in about 120+ more attempts he threw as many INTs as (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and 26 more TDs.
Yeah, and Mahomes is going to be either first or second in MVP voting. Mahomes is clearly ahead of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but the point is that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's interception ratio, while higher than you would like, isn't some remarkably terrible number. Mayfield had a good year too.

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I don't think things are going to get exponentially better with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. For me I'm fine saying he'll never justify his draft pick status. He may max out at being a solid third tier QB along the likes of Cousins, Tannehill, Flacco, etc. Not a superstar. Had we drafted him in the second round or late first round then I'd be fine with his performance and short comings. But you should expect superstar at no. 2 plus everything else the Bears paid to grab him.
Why wouldn't things get better for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky? Remember, during the game you were posting about how he was going to prove he was a bust and all he did after that was lead a nice touchdown drive and then with a minute left put them in a position to win the game.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was probably an average starter this year. He doesn't have to improve that much to become a person that at least justifies his draft status.

I'm going to say that barring injury (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky goes for at least 30 touchdowns and a similar or better qb rating next year. Do you think he stays the same or regresses next year?

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Brees was very good in 2004, so I'm not sure I agree with your football analysis work there, Lou.


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