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 Post subject: Re: Matt Lafleur
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Lot of people like him so we’ll see.

Many of you idiots didn’t like the Nagy hire despite me showing he was clearly gonna be good.

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I don't think anyone really knows how he will be. His resume is not that impressive. But maybe some of McVays magic has rubbed off on him and he will be a good leader. But I would be worried that there is little chance Rodgers listens to him or respects him.

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I don't think anyone really knows how he will be. His resume is not that impressive. But maybe some of McVays magic has rubbed off on him and he will be a good leader. But I would be worried that there is little chance Rodgers listens to him or respects him.

Worried he wouldn't listen because...................


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I don't mind the hire. He should be able to fix the stale play calling and overall scheme issues. My concern is that there are already reports that he is getting Pettine forced on him (I have no problem keeping him around), their god awful shit sandwich cornerbacks coach Whitt forced on him and now he has to "consider" keeping Philbin on staff. Mark Murphy needs to stay in his damn lane and stop meddling in everything. Let the guy hire whomever the hell he wants to hire to fit his vision.

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I don't mind the hire. He should be able to fix the stale play calling and overall scheme issues. My concern is that there are already reports that he is getting Pettine forced on him (I have no problem keeping him around), their god awful shit sandwich cornerbacks coach Whitt forced on him and now he has to "consider" keeping Philbin on staff. Mark Murphy needs to stay in his damn lane and stop meddling in everything. Let the guy hire whomever the hell he wants to hire to fit his vision.

Is Zook gone?

If Philbin is still on staff this all charade means shit. LaFloor is just a puppet then


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I don't mind the hire. He should be able to fix the stale play calling and overall scheme issues. My concern is that there are already reports that he is getting Pettine forced on him (I have no problem keeping him around), their god awful shit sandwich cornerbacks coach Whitt forced on him and now he has to "consider" keeping Philbin on staff. Mark Murphy needs to stay in his damn lane and stop meddling in everything. Let the guy hire whomever the hell he wants to hire to fit his vision.

Is Zook gone?

If Philbin is still on staff this all charade means shit. LaFloor is just a puppet then


None of them are gone. The only assistant to be shown the door has been Moss and that was a month ago after he called out Rodgers. The soft WI media better be prepared to fire away at Murphy and get some answers to the level of his involvement/meddling with the assembly of the staff. He is way to shitty of a public speaker to evade that question. He will stumble around pretty much answer it.

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Zook has to be gone.

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RFDC wrote:
I don't think anyone really knows how he will be. His resume is not that impressive. But maybe some of McVays magic has rubbed off on him and he will be a good leader. But I would be worried that there is little chance Rodgers listens to him or respects him.

He’s a former QB. Rodgers respects former QBs regardless of level of success supposedly.

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I don't think anyone really knows how he will be. His resume is not that impressive. But maybe some of McVays magic has rubbed off on him and he will be a good leader. But I would be worried that there is little chance Rodgers listens to him or respects him.

He’s a former QB. Rodgers respects former QBs regardless of level of success supposedly.

time will tell.

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He is also single so they can spend lots of time together going over the playbook.

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RFDC wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
I don't think anyone really knows how he will be. His resume is not that impressive. But maybe some of McVays magic has rubbed off on him and he will be a good leader. But I would be worried that there is little chance Rodgers listens to him or respects him.

He’s a former QB. Rodgers respects former QBs regardless of level of success supposedly.

time will tell.

Sure. I just don’t think the “diva qb” label is deserved although I admit he did act that way sometimes this season specifically. I think he just got sick of McCarthy, and most anecdotal evidence seems to support that. In his defense, this is years after the general fandom got sick of McCarthy and started loudly complaining. Before the last couple years they had a pretty fine relationship for 10+ years as coach/QB.

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Lafleur
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FavreFan wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
I don't think anyone really knows how he will be. His resume is not that impressive. But maybe some of McVays magic has rubbed off on him and he will be a good leader. But I would be worried that there is little chance Rodgers listens to him or respects him.

He’s a former QB. Rodgers respects former QBs regardless of level of success supposedly.

time will tell.

Sure. I just don’t think the “diva qb” label is deserved although I admit he did act that way sometimes this season specifically. I think he just got sick of McCarthy, and most anecdotal evidence seems to support that. In his defense, this is years after the general fandom got sick of McCarthy and started loudly complaining. Before the last couple years they had a pretty fine relationship for 10+ years as coach/QB.

That is fair.

But don't you think his age has a lot to do with it? For those 10 years he was fine because he probably saw things a lot differently. Now he feels the urgency of the end of his career in sight and he has no time for bullshit. I just don't think Rodgers will respect him to start with.

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Lafleur
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Hiring a coach with no clout is a mistake with Rodgers. This will just enable him further to worry about his own stats more than winning.

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Hiring a coach with no clout is a mistake with Rodgers. This will just enable him further to worry about his own stats more than winning.

always his priority. wouldn't matter who's behind the headset


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I agree with everything you just wrote rfdc except the last sentence and honestly don’t see how your previous words led you to that conclusion.

Rodgers clearly wanted a coaching change and even acted disrespectfully publicly towards McCarthy to help force that. There’s some also WTF video evidence that would lead you to believe he might even be throwing games to get this result (3rd and 2 throw against Seattle comes to mind). Given all that, and his age, I think he’s going to be on board with any new hire, especially a young offensive former QB hire. He knows both of them have a 4 year window now to win a title or come close.

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I agree with everything you just wrote rfdc except the last sentence and honestly don’t see how your previous words led you to that conclusion.

Rodgers clearly wanted a coaching change and even acted disrespectfully publicly towards McCarthy to help force that. There’s some also WTF video evidence that would lead you to believe he might even be throwing games to get this result (3rd and 2 throw against Seattle comes to mind). Given all that, and his age, I think he’s going to be on board with any new hire, especially a young offensive former QB hire. He knows both of them have a 4 year window now to win a title or come close.

ya, really bizarre opinion from rfdc.

let's see, rodgers has 4 - 6 years left (maybe less given concussions) and he's gonna disrespect and ignore his new coach to achieve what goal? :lol:


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I agree with everything you just wrote rfdc except the last sentence and honestly don’t see how your previous words led you to that conclusion.

Rodgers clearly wanted a coaching change and even acted disrespectfully publicly towards McCarthy to help force that. There’s some also WTF video evidence that would lead you to believe he might even be throwing games to get this result (3rd and 2 throw against Seattle comes to mind). Given all that, and his age, I think he’s going to be on board with any new hire, especially a young offensive former QB hire. He knows both of them have a 4 year window now to win a title or come close.

I don't think he will respect him to start with because of the lacking resume. What has this guy done? I think Rodgers will think he knows more than this guy. If they had went with a guy like Arians or even a Lincoln Riley who has been a successful head coach of a top college program who has some clout I think Rodgers would be more bought in to what they are doing. But who the fuck knows...maybe this is the dude Rodgers wanted all along....

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Lafleur
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I agree with everything you just wrote rfdc except the last sentence and honestly don’t see how your previous words led you to that conclusion.

Rodgers clearly wanted a coaching change and even acted disrespectfully publicly towards McCarthy to help force that. There’s some also WTF video evidence that would lead you to believe he might even be throwing games to get this result (3rd and 2 throw against Seattle comes to mind). Given all that, and his age, I think he’s going to be on board with any new hire, especially a young offensive former QB hire. He knows both of them have a 4 year window now to win a title or come close.

I don't think he will respect him to start with because of the lacking resume. What has this guy done? I think Rodgers will think he knows more than this guy. If they had went with a guy like Arians or even a Lincoln Riley who has been a successful head coach of a top college program who has some clout I think Rodgers would be more bought in to what they are doing. But who the fuck knows...maybe this is the dude Rodgers wanted all along....

I think you’re reaching.

McCarthy, as you loved to note a few years back, had a resume that blows every other candidates out of the water so that’s a faulty premise to begin with. Also, Arians wasn’t available and I believe even went as far as withdrawing himself from consideration for the job (use that instead, your current trolling line is weak and this is actually something)

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But for real, this definitely feels like GB coming in a year too late and getting the Fredo of the young offensive mind group. Just don’t think that has anything to do with Rodgers.

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But for real, this definitely feels like GB coming in a year too late and getting the Fredo of the young offensive mind group. Just don’t think that has anything to do with Rodgers.


Don't you think at this point everything has to do with Rodgers?

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Cram it up your cram hole, LaFleur! Prepare to be humiliated on cable television.


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should have let rodgers OC and find a DC/HC.

it took this guy 13 weeks to figure out maybe he should give his best player 20 carries a game


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Good hire.
From the Bears and Vikings POV, its a great hire.

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sucks all these new coaches look like the same dweebs

None of them look like football


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I think it's funny that NFL coaches are now hired because "they are young and I don't know maybe they are really good even though they have weak resumes"

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I see why teams are going this route. The problem with a defensive minded head coach, is that even if he gets a really great offensive coordinator, he's gone in 2-3 years(to a head coaching job) if he does his job well. Then you are shuffling the deck again with your offense. It's easier to find great defensive coordinators as they are always getting fired from their head coaching job.


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Good hire.
From the Bears and Vikings POV, its a great hire.


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