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It's interesting that there's more of a social stigma around use of weed than there is use of alcohol... until you start talking about heavy use. If someone was coming into SNL and drinking all day, every day, it would be considered noble to say something. With weed, it's just kind of laughed at and accepted.

It's as though smoking weed has a stigma, but once its accepted that someone smokes weed, the amount becomes irrelevant.

That's a good point.

Also, there is a belief, and it has some merit, that people can perform tasks jobs while high, not so much when drunk.

Especially with acting/comedy.


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It's interesting that there's more of a social stigma around use of weed than there is use of alcohol... until you start talking about heavy use. If someone was coming into SNL and drinking all day, every day, it would be considered noble to say something. With weed, it's just kind of laughed at and accepted.

It's as though smoking weed has a stigma, but once its accepted that someone smokes weed, the amount becomes irrelevant.

Leash wants to shame those of us who can't make an eighth last for 6 weeks. smh

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It's interesting that there's more of a social stigma around use of weed than there is use of alcohol... until you start talking about heavy use. If someone was coming into SNL and drinking all day, every day, it would be considered noble to say something. With weed, it's just kind of laughed at and accepted.

It's as though smoking weed has a stigma, but once its accepted that someone smokes weed, the amount becomes irrelevant.

Leash wants to shame those of us who can't make an eighth last for 6 weeks. smh


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It's interesting that there's more of a social stigma around use of weed than there is use of alcohol... until you start talking about heavy use. If someone was coming into SNL and drinking all day, every day, it would be considered noble to say something. With weed, it's just kind of laughed at and accepted.

It's as though smoking weed has a stigma, but once its accepted that someone smokes weed, the amount becomes irrelevant.

Leash wants to shame those of us who can't make an eighth last for 6 weeks. smh


I clearly have no room to shame anyone.

Nor does anyone have room to shame you. Keep fighting the good fight my friend.

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It's interesting that there's more of a social stigma around use of weed than there is use of alcohol... until you start talking about heavy use. If someone was coming into SNL and drinking all day, every day, it would be considered noble to say something. With weed, it's just kind of laughed at and accepted.

It's as though smoking weed has a stigma, but once its accepted that someone smokes weed, the amount becomes irrelevant.



i think that stigma is dying a fast death. weed is becoming normalized by the day. which to me is sad as I'm not a drug person. But that's the world we live in.


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Pete Davidson also wished death upon Louie in a standup routine a couple days ago.

The funny thing about the Pete Davidson-Louis CK feud is that it comes from Louis CK telling SNL management that Davidson does too many drugs and it is going to derail his career.

Since then, Pete Davidson has been to rehab for drugs, and is now openly stating that he still smokes and drinks after being done with rehab.

If he ONLY said that part, that would be one thing but apparently....


In his set, Davidson told the audience that in May 2015, when C.K. hosted “SNL” for the fourth time, the “Louie” star “told all the producers in front of me that all this kid does is smoke weed and he’s gonna smoke his career away.”

Not only that, but Davidson accused C.K. of taking his distaste to the big boss, executive producer Lorne Michaels, saying “that Pete smokes so much weed that it makes people uncomfortable.”


I mean, that may be a valid point, but I cant really get on Davidson for not liking a guy who tried to get him fired.
I don't see the problem with that part either. It still is a workplace even if it isn't your standard one. If I was a few days away from going on live television with a guy and he was noticeably high and it was hurting the ability to prepare for it I would probably not be too happy either.

I really like Pete Davidson too. He's one of the recent bright spots on the whole show but that doesn't mean it's ok for him to show up for work on a Wednesday morning and already be noticeably high on marijuana cigarettes.

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Given the choice, I would much rather jettison my career the Pete Davison way than the Louis C.K. way.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Pete Davidson also wished death upon Louie in a standup routine a couple days ago.

The funny thing about the Pete Davidson-Louis CK feud is that it comes from Louis CK telling SNL management that Davidson does too many drugs and it is going to derail his career.

Since then, Pete Davidson has been to rehab for drugs, and is now openly stating that he still smokes and drinks after being done with rehab.

If he ONLY said that part, that would be one thing but apparently....


In his set, Davidson told the audience that in May 2015, when C.K. hosted “SNL” for the fourth time, the “Louie” star “told all the producers in front of me that all this kid does is smoke weed and he’s gonna smoke his career away.”

Not only that, but Davidson accused C.K. of taking his distaste to the big boss, executive producer Lorne Michaels, saying “that Pete smokes so much weed that it makes people uncomfortable.”


I mean, that may be a valid point, but I cant really get on Davidson for not liking a guy who tried to get him fired.
I don't see the problem with that part either. It still is a workplace even if it isn't your standard one. If I was a few days away from going on live television with a guy and he was noticeably high and it was hurting the ability to prepare for it I would probably not be too happy either.

I really like Pete Davidson too. He's one of the recent bright spots on the whole show but that doesn't mean it's ok for him to show up for work on a Wednesday morning and already be noticeably high on marijuana cigarettes.

I wasnt saying it's not a problem. I'm saying I can understand why Davidson is pissed.

Also, it's kind of ridiculous to focus in on a guy smoking weed in a place where people have drugged themselves to death before getting fired.

Ill bet Louis just doesn't like Davidson. Old traditional stand up guys absolutely HATE guys like Davidson who didnt come up the way they did.


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Pete Davidson also wished death upon Louie in a standup routine a couple days ago.

The funny thing about the Pete Davidson-Louis CK feud is that it comes from Louis CK telling SNL management that Davidson does too many drugs and it is going to derail his career.

Since then, Pete Davidson has been to rehab for drugs, and is now openly stating that he still smokes and drinks after being done with rehab.

If he ONLY said that part, that would be one thing but apparently....


In his set, Davidson told the audience that in May 2015, when C.K. hosted “SNL” for the fourth time, the “Louie” star “told all the producers in front of me that all this kid does is smoke weed and he’s gonna smoke his career away.”

Not only that, but Davidson accused C.K. of taking his distaste to the big boss, executive producer Lorne Michaels, saying “that Pete smokes so much weed that it makes people uncomfortable.”

I mean, that may be a valid point, but I cant really get on Davidson for not liking a guy who tried to get him fired.

Fuck that disrespectful punk mongoloid fuck.

He deserves to get fired.

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 Post subject: Re: Louis CK
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I have never found Louis CK funny.

It really seemed like the guy had pictures of somebody.

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Pete Davidson is the one who is not funny.

He looks like a fucking heroin addict, and he got lucky to stick his dipshit cock in Arianna Grande or else nobody would even know who he is.

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Pete Davidson is the one who is not funny.

He looks like a fucking heroin addict, and he got lucky to stick his dipshit cock in Arianna Grande or else nobody would even know who he is.

He IS a fucking heroin addict

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Panther pislA wrote:
Pete Davidson is the one who is not funny.

He looks like a fucking heroin addict, and he got lucky to stick his dipshit cock in Arianna Grande or else nobody would even know who he is.

He IS a fucking heroin addict

Giant dong tho.

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Pete Davidson is the one who is not funny.

He looks like a fucking heroin addict, and he got lucky to stick his dipshit cock in Arianna Grande or else nobody would even know who he is.


Yes, he's also not funny. And less funny than Louis CK.

Thanks for the clarification.

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I never got into Louis CK like a lot of people did, but I understand. Pete Davidson is just aggressively untalented.

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Louis CK was ok. He made me laugh at times. This Davidson guy has no talent. He's just another whore the media likes to put into the spotlight. I was listening to Stern/Norm show from a few months ago on youtube. Norm was like if you can't make any controversial jokes in standup, how is it suppose to be funny.


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The only thing funny I have seen Davidson do on SNL is be the oblivious "OK" guy in a few skits, and I don't think the skills necessary to play that role are uniquely his.


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The only thing funny I have seen Davidson do on SNL is be the oblivious "OK" guy in a few skits, and I don't think the skills necessary to play that role are uniquely his.



He's a poor man's wannabe Rob Schneider.


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Tad Queasy's avatar always makes a thread better.

I don’t get why ESPN doesn’t give her greater exposure

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I don’t get why ESPN doesn’t give her greater exposure

Who is that?

And my take on Louis CK is that he's kind of funny, but too "wang showy".

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Straight fucking gets old to celebs. I understand it up to a point. He asked permission before he whipped it out. That doesn't excuse it because of the power dynamic. But it ain't assault. It's extremely poor judgement. He apologi, he did his penance, he claims he lost $35 mildough. Yet still people want him fucking dead. If they don't like his comedy, do some standup. Do a whole Louis CK bit. I'd respect that and I'd watch it hoping for a laugh.


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Yep, he was very "UP FRONT" about everything.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/louis-ck-doubles-down-with-jokes-on-on-911-retarded-kids-and-racial-tropes

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SAN JOSE, California—When Louis C.K. stepped onstage to a standing ovation and a full house at a San Jose comedy club Wednesday night, he got right to the point:

“I like to jerk off, and I don’t like being alone.”


Simple and without a trace of apology; it got a good laugh.

It’s been a little over a year since C.K.’s star came crashing down, after The New York Times published accounts of five women who said he had masturbated in front of them without their consent. C.K. issued a statement, confirming “those stories are true.”

His testing-the-waters attempts at making a comeback, first by appearing at New York’s Comedy Cellar in October 2018, have drawn criticism, protests, and mixed reviews.

Audio from a gig last month that included a joke about survivors of the Parkland school massacre and a one-liner that questioned the masculinity of Asian men sparked outrage.

But waiting in the drizzling rain before the show outside San Jose Improv, fans were quick to forgive C.K., who was one of the world’s most beloved comedians before the news of his misconduct broke. They wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.

“I don’t spend a lot of time trying to follow public figures’ private lives,” said Tiff Ting, who was first in line.

Behind Ting was Juan Duran, who said he’d been a fan of C.K.’s for years. Asked his thoughts on the jacking-off incidents, Duran said, “I don’t know him… It’s he said, she said.”

When it was pointed out that C.K. had admitted everything, Duran shifted gears. “Everyone deserves a road to redemption,” he said.

Ann Horner, 62, was the first protester to show up. “Keep it in your pants,” her sign said. Horner said she has experienced both harassment and sexual assault in her life, and that she was here because of C.K.’s harassment of women. “It’s not OK with me,” she said.

A young man named Shane, who passed by on his way inside, asked Horner what C.K.’s harassment had to do with his standup.

“Do you think it’s funny when people jerk off in front of women?” she asked him.

“No, I think his standup is funny,” he said. “Who do you think is funny?” he asked her.

“Hannah Gadsby” she said. “Do you know who that is?”

“Yes, she’s the one with the least funny special on Netflix,” he said.

Horner, a sociologist, has worked with women who’ve survived domestic violence. “Females being treated as second-class citizens is in the fiber of the culture.” Most men don’t get it, she said, “because it’s like fish in water. They don’t see it.”

After most of the audience had filtered into the theater, a group of about 30 more protesters gathered out front, marching and shouting “Shame!” and “Louie C.K. has got to go!”

The group included veteran campaigner Michele Dauber. She previously led the successful effort to recall a Palo Alto judge who gained notoriety after giving Brock Turner, a former Stanford swimmer, a lenient sentence for the set

People with tickets for the comedy show were required to put their phones in sealed closed cases that could only be unlocked in the lobby, to discourage photographs and recordings.

Onstage, C.K. wasted no time in addressing the complicity of the audience—“You’ve read the worst possible things you could read about a person, about me, and you’re here”—before pivoting to mansplaining comedy.

“The whole point of comedy is to say things that you shouldn’t say. That’s the entire point,” he said.

Comedy is also like porn, he said. Then he made a joke about a porn star’s asshole, and concluded that the world needs porn because it somehow keeps men from molesting their colleagues at work.

The first half of the show garnered a lot of laughter, especially when C.K. was confronting his serious missteps.

“If you ever need people to forget that you jerked off, what you do is you make a joke about kids that got shot,” he said, referring to the controversy over his Parkland joke, which was dropped from Wednesday night’s set.

About halfway through, a joke about 9/11 was the turning point—and the energy started to go downhill.

“I got on a plane once,” he said. “And this couple comes up to me as we’re boarding. There’s an empty seat next to me, and this woman says to me, ‘Would you mind moving so my husband and I can sit together?’ And he’s behind her and he’s like [motions – no]. I didn’t know what to do. I don’t wanna upset him. But I don’t wanna sit with his fucking wife. So I just got off the plane.

“And then the plane took off. And it hit the World Trade Center.”


There was some laughter, but a lot of groans.

I’ve heard C.K. make a 9/11 joke before, on a radio call-in show where the set-up to the joke was all about denigrating himself, and other men like him. At the time he was still married, and he said American husbands were the worst, they weren’t even truly fat, just “half-fat,” doughy, and they were “shitty-looking” and in decline. That’s why al Qaeda targeted us. That was the old joke.

There was none of that old charming self-deprecation on display in this show. There were a lot of tired jokes, including one that sparked loud criticism after his previous show about black men having large dicks, and Asian men having small ones “because they’re all women.”

Instead, C.K. doubled down on jokes about “retarded” kids, rehashing the fact that he was once sent to a summer camp for these children. A woman sitting at the table next to me said afterward that she works with disabled kids. She wasn’t offended, but said it seemed like he didn’t know what he was talking about, like he had no idea what that community actually deals with. Her date said that his baby had actually died, so C.K.’s bit about dead babies also didn’t go over that well with him. They weren’t offended, they just didn’t think it was funny.

“He came out with both fists swinging,” was the assessment of one audience member, Akshay from San Jose.

Valerie Vernale, a comedian from San Francisco who now lives in New York, said she felt conflicted about having attended.

When she had first heard about the allegations, she was furious, she said, but over time she softened.

She ran through a list of reasons why she had wanted to come, from curiosity about how he would handle his material now, to having the chance to see a comedy legend for $35.

But: “Am I betraying women?” she wondered.

“What he did is wrong and I know that,” she said. “It’s not irredeemable. It’s still conflicting for me to figure out, because we’re all still in the midst of it.”


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Meh, he's just not that funny and never has been.

He's a slightly more funny version of Bob Saget.

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This man is a hero. He is the savior we need to defeat the professionally offended. Long live Louis!

He's pretty good, just a tad overrated.


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