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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:15 pm 
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It's not the lying about his service which is offending; it's the statement of him receiving Purple Heart(s) and other decorations. If he was doing this in public, and seeking benefits or donations, he could arrested for violating the Stolen Valor Act of 2013.

You have to understand someone engaging in Stolen Valor is very offensive to us veterans because they portray themselves as heroes for financial gain or attention when in fact they never had the testicular fortitude to even serve in the military.


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I don't think FF swore an oath to support and defend the association against all enemies both foreign and domestic.


Was a joke, fellas. Taking a shot at FF's basketball thoughts. In this debate, though I see what lyk, jorr, and others are saying, I lean toward FF's POV.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:45 pm 
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Wow, it's almost as if banning posters based on the outrage they caused in other groups of posters, opened the door to ANY group of posters calling for the banning of another, even for something as silly as Lying On The Internet.

What a world.

I mostly agree, JLN. America was different, though, as the Wisemen explained. He had been warned and given almost as many chances as Steve Howe. Plus, he can come back in mult (or pog) form.

I am with FF and FrankDrebin and everyone else who says this if The Hawk is lying, this is a special kind of assholery. Like ninth-circle kind. Seriously, is nothing sacred?

On the other hand, I have seen FF use the "nothing is sacred" defense when he comes out firing on other people's closely-held beliefs. Of course, FF would argue that he doesn't claim to be something he is not like The Hawk supposedly is doing, and, apart from the "I'm not on left/right and so am objective and therefore I must be right" bullshit he spews, that's a good argument.

Still, just because this bothers him and FrankDrebin (and me and Toxic and so on) doesn't mean that The Hawk should be banned for it. No way, man. Deal with it the way you are dealing with it: by making The Hawk look like an idiot. If people find it persuasive, they'll agree. (Yet if people unthinkingly jump on the anti-Hawk bandwagon, then they're dumb idiots who are dumb. There's enough social censorship here as it is.)

Banning people can get shitty fast, and if Nas didn't ban people who rip on him the way they do, we shouldn't ask anyone to be banned, either. And if The Hawkeroo is lying, what a piece of etc. he is. As FrankDrebin said, all of you who served have balls. Thank you for your service, seriously.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Tommy provided the best post to end a thread on as usual

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Tommy provided the best post to end a thread on as usual


Yeah, I'm done. I'll just put him on ignore.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Someone want to explain Tommy's post to the jarheads?

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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If fibbing about military service is allowed, then skeptical posts are fair game.

I don’t know what skeptical posts mean but yes it’s clear lying about military service is allowed here.


Being skeptical of their claims. Calling bullshit.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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If Bernstein, Parkins, or Len Kasper have to be "vetted" by the Wise men, why can't The Hawk?

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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I don't think it's too much to ask for people to not disrespect the sacrifice and service of our veterans. I'm not for banning him if he's a real account. If he's a mult I would talk to the Wisemen about nuking him. I think there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed and this is one. He's free to drop the military stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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We probably need a special investigation led by JLN.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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We probably need a special investigation led by JLN.

Or have him go out for a night of drinking with you. Can’t keep up = not a veteran :D

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Keep the racial slurs to minimum, don't make fun of people's wives or kids, and don't lie about serving in the military. These are the lines, correct?

If somebody has a problem with any of those, they're a waste of life anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Keep the racial slurs to minimum, don't make fun of people's wives of kids, and don't lie about serving in the military. These are the lines, correct?

If somebody has a problem with any of those, they're a waste of life anyway.


Pretty much.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Making fun of Nas for having too MANY kids, however, is required :D

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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We probably need a special investigation led by JLN.

Or have him go out for a night of drinking with you. Can’t keep up = not a veteran :D


Pretty much but can’t explain Jorr.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Keep the racial slurs to minimum, don't make fun of people's wives of kids, and don't lie about serving in the military. These are the lines, correct?

If somebody has a problem with any of those, they're a waste of life anyway.


Pretty much.


Only to a minimum on the slurs can be tightened up.

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Making fun of Nas for having too MANY kids, however, is required :D


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Making fun of Nas for having too MANY mults, however, is required :D


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Keep the racial slurs to minimum, don't make fun of people's wives or kids, and don't lie about serving in the military. These are the lines, correct?

If somebody has a problem with any of those, they're a waste of life anyway.

But if you provide an overload of reheated Bears takes while being an admitted racist you can survive longer than most.

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Making fun of Nas for having too MANY mults, however, is required :D


FIFY


It's odd that you believe that I have enough time to post as myself and as another regular poster.

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I reeeeaaaaaallllly hope this mult isn’t who I think it is.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Of course, he could be a loon going to great lengths to disguise his multiness

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:05 pm 
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Wow, it's almost as if banning posters based on the outrage they caused in other groups of posters, opened the door to ANY group of posters calling for the banning of another, even for something as silly as Lying On The Internet.

What a world.

How did this idiot not run away with the biggest victim complex poll?


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Wow, it's almost as if banning posters based on the outrage they caused in other groups of posters, opened the door to ANY group of posters calling for the banning of another, even for something as silly as Lying On The Internet.

What a world.

How did this idiot not run away with the biggest victim complex poll?


He's right about that with the exception of minimizing lying about military service.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Making fun of Nas for having too MANY mults, however, is required :D


FIFY


It's odd that you believe that I have enough time to post as myself and as another regular poster.


Just pulling your chain.

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Making fun of Nas for having too MANY mults, however, is required :D


FIFY


It's odd that you believe that I have enough time to post as myself and as another regular poster.


Just pulling your chain.


That's been known to get people pregnant.

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Making fun of Nas for having too MANY mults, however, is required :D


FIFY


It's odd that you believe that I have enough time to post as myself and as another regular poster.


Just pulling your chain.


That's been known to get people pregnant.


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Hawk is obnoxious. Not sure why FF thinks it's wrong for the Hawk to lie about serving but it's okay for FF to lie about his own basketball acumen.


It's not the lying about his service which is offending; it's the statement of him receiving Purple Heart(s) and other decorations. If he was doing this in public, and seeking benefits or donations, he could arrested for violating the Stolen Valor Act of 2013.

You have to understand someone engaging in Stolen Valor is very offensive to us veterans because they portray themselves as heroes for financial gain or attention when in fact they never had the testicular fortitude to even serve in the military.


Look. You say you were in the military and I believe it. Why would you or anyone lie about it? Also, FOR THE RECORD I never claimed anything about TWO PURPLE HEARTS. That is a BIG FAT LIE THAT FF started as the piece of shit that he is. I also never bragged a bit about being a hero. Never. That also is a big fucking lie.


For the RECORD, I was the one accused of Stolen Valor by FF who had no grounds to say that. I am the fucking one being accused not the other way around. And I am PISSED ROYALLY ABOUT IT. You'd be also if it were you and you served honorably and so would anyone else here. I decry STOLEN VALOR but I ALSO decry cock suckers who accuse a veteran of such a thing without a bit of fucking proof. Seriously, if I ever got ahold of a cocksucker who did it, I'd try my level best to kick their fucking ass..

This is the fucking last time I am going to say this because I shouldn't have to prove a fucking thing. I will send a copy of my DD214 and a copy of my Veterans Disability award (80%) and picture of my uniform together with my DISABLED VETERAN ID card that veterans use to obtain medical treatment at the hospitals and clinics to ONE person in management(not NAS) who is also a fucking piece of shit also for his also saying I am a Stolen Valor person. It will be via letter and not electronically as I do not trust anyone to properly protect electronic information this important.

IN return to jumping through fucking hoops for a cock-sucker like FF, he will remit to me $100.00 via this same management person. No management person, no letter and proof sent. What I do with that money I haven't decided yet but it will go to a veteran's charity of some kind. I will not trust anyone else to do it if I delegated it to anyone else. I do not know a single person on this board so why should I trust anyone with MY MONEY?

I want you as a veteran to understand how pissed off that I am about this bullshit. Personally I think that FF is the person who should be kicked off of this board no matter if he pays off or not. His apology, if given even, is really pretty fucking weak considering the fucking insult he has leveled. Fuck him and anyone else who thinks like him.

It is now in managements court. Send me the name and address to send my information to if this is going to go ahead.

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