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Assuming for the sake of argument that's what has occurred here (I will state that we are likely soon to discover it is not), is it really possible for an anonymous person on a message board to steal valor?

Interesting. So is the hawk getting JORR the proof?

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Watch closely now as the micromob changes focus to JLN rather than Hawk as they set out to accomplish their ultimate goal - unified thinking on every issue ever discussed. Let's see if they are successful in their quest.
As a Wiseman cheers on the call to doxx or ban a poster for lying.

I was wondering if this place would ever turn. The first two years after The Transition had me convinced it wouldn't, but here we are.

It's abundantly clear nothing is changing over this. Stop crying over this, you sound like the same annoying 12 year old you sound like on every topic. Try logging off and gaining a personalty and come back.
You want a poster banned for lying, yes? Isn't that one of the outcomes you stipulated?

Not for lying. For stealing valor. I know you think they are the same, they are not. And of course you don't understand the difference.



Assuming for the sake of argument that's what has occurred here (I will state that we are likely soon to discover it is not), is it really possible for an anonymous person on a message board to steal valor?

I think so, obviously. I wouldn’t have started the thread if I didn’t.

I’m willing to consider I’m wrong on that angle. What I’m not willing to consider is that it’s the same about lying what you had for breakfast this morning.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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I’m willing to consider I’m wrong on that angle. What I’m not willing to consider is that it’s the same about lying what you had for breakfast this morning.
Again you're being disingenuous, the point is that lying about military service is a lie, not a separate and distinct offense. Nothing was said about it being the same degree of a lie as something innocuous.

So, when I say that you want someone banned for lying on a message board, I am correct.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Isn't that why all of the bannings have occurred? It's all some form of lying, jest, or dishonesty.

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Isn't that why all of the bannings have occurred? It's all some form of lying, jest, or dishonesty.

BIGFAN bannings, yes.

Wisemen bannings, no.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Isn't that why all of the bannings have occurred? It's all some form of lying, jest, or dishonesty.

BIGFAN bannings, yes.

Wisemen bannings, no.

They've only banned America, right?


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If you are trolling, you are lying. So...It's always been the case.

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Isn't that why all of the bannings have occurred? It's all some form of lying, jest, or dishonesty.

BIGFAN bannings, yes.

Wisemen bannings, no.

They've only banned America, right?

I think America and New Zealand.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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One is real, the other a fictional classification.


Come on man, this is weak.

It is a pretty well known thing that stolen valor is a real thing.

I get you are wanting to piss off FF, but you can do better than this.
"Stolen valor" is utterly meaningless. Valor is an abstract concept. You cannot steal an abstract concept that belongs to no one.

You can, however, lie about military service, but that is ALL THAT IT IS: lying. It is not a separate and distinct offense.



STOLEN VALOR IS AGAINST THE LAW. CONGRESS PASSED A FUCKING BILL ON IT!

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-con ... -bill/258/

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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I’m willing to consider I’m wrong on that angle. What I’m not willing to consider is that it’s the same about lying what you had for breakfast this morning.
Again you're being disingenuous, the point is that lying about military service is a lie, not a separate and distinct offense. Nothing was said about it being the same degree of a lie as something innocuous.

So, when I say that you want someone banned for lying on a message board, I am correct.

It is a separate and distinct offense. Many of us tried explaining that to you although I was sure a guy like you was never going to understand.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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FavreFan wrote:
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I’m willing to consider I’m wrong on that angle. What I’m not willing to consider is that it’s the same about lying what you had for breakfast this morning.
Again you're being disingenuous, the point is that lying about military service is a lie, not a separate and distinct offense. Nothing was said about it being the same degree of a lie as something innocuous.

So, when I say that you want someone banned for lying on a message board, I am correct.

It is a separate and distinct offense.
No, it is not. It is a lie, one you find incredibly offensive, but it is a lie. You want someone banned for lying.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Obviously, lying about military service or decorations on a message board is not an offense unless you are seeking donations of a financial or material kind.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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I’m willing to consider I’m wrong on that angle. What I’m not willing to consider is that it’s the same about lying what you had for breakfast this morning.
Again you're being disingenuous, the point is that lying about military service is a lie, not a separate and distinct offense. Nothing was said about it being the same degree of a lie as something innocuous.

So, when I say that you want someone banned for lying on a message board, I am correct.

It is a separate and distinct offense.
No, it is not. It is a lie, one you find incredibly offensive, but it is a lie. You want someone banned for lying.

It’s more than a lie. A guy like you was never gonna understand what MANY of us tried explaining to you.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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FavreFan wrote:
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I’m willing to consider I’m wrong on that angle. What I’m not willing to consider is that it’s the same about lying what you had for breakfast this morning.
Again you're being disingenuous, the point is that lying about military service is a lie, not a separate and distinct offense. Nothing was said about it being the same degree of a lie as something innocuous.

So, when I say that you want someone banned for lying on a message board, I am correct.

It is a separate and distinct offense.
No, it is not. It is a lie, one you find incredibly offensive, but it is a lie. You want someone banned for lying.

It’s more than a lie.
That can be the title of your viral video where you cry at someone reading posts by Hawk, of course after you get him banned for lying.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
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I’m willing to consider I’m wrong on that angle. What I’m not willing to consider is that it’s the same about lying what you had for breakfast this morning.
Again you're being disingenuous, the point is that lying about military service is a lie, not a separate and distinct offense. Nothing was said about it being the same degree of a lie as something innocuous.

So, when I say that you want someone banned for lying on a message board, I am correct.

It is a separate and distinct offense.
No, it is not. It is a lie, one you find incredibly offensive, but it is a lie. You want someone banned for lying.

It’s more than a lie. A guy like you was never gonna understand what MANY of us tried explaining to you.

I think you are right about that. I don't think it means he needs to be banned, but, yeah, you are right about that.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Yeah stolen valor is worse than just a lie. But so many now are generally disrespectful to soldiers and patriotism I expect it.

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Just because you feel like lying about military service is so especially awful that it should be viewed as something else entirely, doesn't change the fact that it is a lie. And wanting someone banned for perhaps lying about military service is to want someone banned for lying.

That's the dispassionate reality of all this.


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Just because you feel like lying about military service is so especially awful that it should be viewed as something else entirely, doesn't change the fact that it is a lie. And wanting someone banned for perhaps lying about military service is to want someone banned for lying.

That's the dispassionate reality of all this.


Is a rape more than just sex?

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Just because you feel like lying about military service is so especially awful that it should be viewed as something else entirely, doesn't change the fact that it is a lie. And wanting someone banned for perhaps lying about military service is to want someone banned for lying.

That's the dispassionate reality of all this.


Is a rape more than just sex?

Depends on how long ago.

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Just because you feel like lying about military service is so especially awful that it should be viewed as something else entirely, doesn't change the fact that it is a lie. And wanting someone banned for perhaps lying about military service is to want someone banned for lying.

That's the dispassionate reality of all this.


Is a rape more than just sex?

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Just because you feel like lying about military service is so especially awful that it should be viewed as something else entirely, doesn't change the fact that it is a lie. And wanting someone banned for perhaps lying about military service is to want someone banned for lying.

That's the dispassionate reality of all this.


Is a rape more than just sex?
Except "sex" is neutral, "lie" and "lying" are not. I'm not trying to reduce lying about military service to neutrality. If I had said "lying about military service is just words arranged in a certain way that you're getting mad about", you'd have me. But I didn't.


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i wish being an asshole was a crime.


There would be no one on the board

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Just because you feel like lying about military service is so especially awful that it should be viewed as something else entirely, doesn't change the fact that it is a lie. And wanting someone banned for perhaps lying about military service is to want someone banned for lying.

That's the dispassionate reality of all this.


Is a rape more than just sex?
Except "sex" is neutral, "lie" and "lying" are not. I'm not trying to reduce lying about military service to neutrality. If I had said "lying about military service is just words arranged in a certain way that you're getting mad about", you'd have me. But I didn't.

You mean, lie back and enjoy it?

Sex isn't neutral; it's fucking expensive.


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it's very expensive.

It's a long, painstaking arduous task and just when you think things are going your way, nothing happens.

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kinda like this thread.

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Really, JLN?
Now you sound kind of stupid.
This whole goddamn thread is ridiculous.


Now before I say something I am just trying to help.

What FF is doing is basically a coin challenge. If you are true military Hawk long up your coin. On the other hand,FFafte he okayed it i think you added more stipulations on? If so you can't keep moving the goal posts man. If Hawks is really who he says ,not just FF but a lot of you guys need not only apologize but donate to a veterans organization.

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Obviously, lying about military service or decorations on a message board is not an offense unless you are seeking donations of a financial or material kind.



That was my take. For it to be stolen valor there has to be an attempt at some gain. If The Hawk were lying- and I don't believe he is- I don't believe it constitutes stolen valor.

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Assuming for the sake of argument that's what has occurred here (I will state that we are likely soon to discover it is not), is it really possible for an anonymous person on a message board to steal valor?

Interesting. So is the hawk getting JORR the proof?


He's provided me some information already. I'll let you know when he provides more and advises me how he wants to proceed. I won't be doxxing him.

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