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Mac, you are one of a kind. Love your style. You're the only real thing we have in this City right now.

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Why don't you guys ever try to get crazy with getting top guests on? I mean maybe even Top Guests from time to time who maybe aren't even trying to shamelessly plug anything.

It would be cool to have Mike Tyson on, or have a recurring segment where you like have a top or even an up-and-coming comedian on every Thursday or something. How has local guy Pat McGann or other local comedians never been on a show?

Kind of like how Joe Rogan, etc. does it. Shit, have him on! You don't have to be tied to sports or even touch politics to be super "Interesting Radio".



I was thinking about this the other day as well. They used to regularly have non sports guests with a sports tie in and frequently those people were pretty fun. Some were duds but some became regulars.

I would bet a guy like Obama would have an interest in getting on the phone for 15 minutes and talking Sox. In fact, I'd be really surprised if he didn't listen to the Score at some point in his life.

Ashton Kutcher is a huge Bears fan. He might be fun in a whacked out sort of way.

I always thought it would be fun for The Score to have a screening of that movie from a few years ago Big Fan about the guy who calls in to sports radio. I'd love to see a guy like Maddux Boy sitting in the front row unironically taking notes to critique the show afterwards.

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funny that Dazed and Confused is on topic.

I happened to watch the documentary last night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaHQlsRNr6s

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Don't feel like reading the whole thread, but did RodeoVann send a message to Mac about being in his deadpool? The fuck is going on here.

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Panther pislA wrote:
Mac, you are one of a kind. Love your style. You're the only real thing we have in this City right now.

A few Questions:


Why don't you guys ever try to get crazy with getting top guests on? I mean maybe even Top Guests from time to time who maybe aren't even trying to shamelessly plug anything.

It would be cool to have Mike Tyson on, or have a recurring segment where you like have a top or even an up-and-coming comedian on every Thursday or something. How has local guy Pat McGann or other local comedians never been on a show?

Kind of like how Joe Rogan, etc. does it. Shit, have him on! You don't have to be tied to sports or even touch politics to be super "Interesting Radio".



I was thinking about this the other day as well. They used to regularly have non sports guests with a sports tie in and frequently those people were pretty fun. Some were duds but some became regulars.

I would bet a guy like Obama would have an interest in getting on the phone for 15 minutes and talking Sox. In fact, I'd be really surprised if he didn't listen to the Score at some point in his life.

Ashton Kutcher is a huge Bears fan. He might be fun in a whacked out sort of way.

I always thought it would be fun for The Score to have a screening of that movie from a few years ago Big Fan about the guy who calls in to sports radio. I'd love to see a guy like Maddux Boy sitting in the front row unironically taking notes to critique the show afterwards.

Shit, they used to get Bill Petersen and Dennis Farina, no?

Doesn't have to have a Chicago connection. Producers, just call people - reach out, no matter how "big" a guest is - and learn how to go after something until you get it!

Build your Book. Shit, dial up Jordan and Tiger. Why not?

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They should book R.Kelly.

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They should book R.Kelly.

That would really piss people off.

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They should book R.Kelly.

Do it.

Make a fucking splash.

Why not?

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct ... story.html

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-wscr-dan-mcneil-mental-health-facebook-20190118-story.html

Post the text, dude. I ain't subscribing to read an article.

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Sharing a vulnerability uncommon among sports radio hosts, WSCR-AM 670’s Dan McNeil laid himself bare in a post-midnight Facebook post Friday.

McNeil, 57, apparently was triggered by a text from a listener who informed him he had been selected in the listener’s so-called dead pool in which the deaths of those chosen score points weighted toward the decedent’s relative youth.


Despite initially seeming to laugh off the note as he might on the air — “Give the dude credit for a sound investment strategy; I’m a good ‘value pick’ in a pool like that” — McNeil responded with soulful ruminations on living with vices, mental health issues and suicide.

Then he shared the impact he imagined his death would have on his three grown sons.



“I must confess, this guy got to me,” McNeil wrote. “I even cried a few times. Daydreaming about my sons’ sadness over the void in their lives is an optic I’d just as soon avoid.

“What kind of human has so much contempt for a radio show, he wishes for — at the minimum, bets on — a guy’s death? So, hoping that guy is reading this — as I did on the air, hoping he was listening — I want him to quickly meet my sons, now bereaved by the loss of their dad.”

McNeil envisioned Van, 28, dumping his ashes up in Eagle Lake, Ontario.

“I want him to do it in the water where he releases his next” muskie, he wrote, urging his eldest to “sing a fishing parody we did and laugh. Don’t be blue. Be joyous over good times had.”

McNeil said he hoped his youngest son, Jack, 24, would steer clear of sadness the first time he plays drums in front of a crowd of 500.

But most affecting were McNeil’s reflections on autistic son Patrick, 25.

“His sadness is my biggest fear,” McNeil wrote. “Fear isn’t strong enough. It … takes my breath away. He doesn’t have typical friends. He’s verbal, but not conversational. I am his life soulmate and he is mine.

“Patrick already has expressed being terrified over the eventual passing of loved ones. He’s close to very few and my departure would be catastrophic for him. He still asks me to tickle him when he goes to bed. He has the spirit and doting eyes of a 5-year-old looking at daddy.”



But McNeil also took unsparing and clear-eyed stock of himself as he edges toward the end of middle-age.

“I still smoke,” McNeil wrote. “Still 30 pounds too fat. I love coffee. Exercise is finding the remote when it’s lost in the sofa cushions. Publicly, I’ve been forthright about the toxins I’ve ingested. For decades.

“Mental illness runs in my family. I’ve been diagnosed depressive — and some other fancy polysyllabic word better defined by the phrase ‘bi-polar lite.’ I take a pysch med, Lamotrigine, and do talk therapy. I do my best to have gratitude therapy at least once a day.”

McNeil then noted that the children of a parent who commits suicide are more likely to do the same.

“Bet the texter who took me didn’t know I even had that on my dead pool candidate resume,” McNeil wrote. “Sometimes I get defensive, but I don’t think I'm fragile.”

McNeil returned to WSCR-AM last year for the third stint there of his 30-year-plus Chicago sports radio career. He co-hosts with Danny Parkins weekday afternoons on The Score from 1 to 6 p.m.

In an interview later Friday, McNeil said he felt fine. He called the feedback he had received regarding the Facebook post as well as an earlier on-air discussion of the text “amazing.”

“Sometimes I get a therapeutic benefit, as cliched as this sounds, from navigating my way through darkness publicly to find some light,” he said.

McNeil said he hasn’t “been happier at work in many years” and has “stopped doubting if I want to do this for a lot longer because I have got the right guys around me and I'm in a good place.”

It has been almost 20 years since a listener’s taunt got to him, he said. Someone left a voicemail in 2000 that included a vulgar, gratuitous potshot at a member of McNeil’s family.

“That cut me but was a great thing because it helped me develop a Teflon (shield) I might not have had,” McNeil said. “It was good in that I decided I was not going to let people who are unimportant in my life have free rent in my head.

“Until Wednesday, when that guy sent me that text, I hadn’t been cut by somebody in a long time. But it gave me a good chance to do some inventory and hopefully that post or that conversation on the air (about the text) was interesting to a few people and reached a few people where it matters.”

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Mac should have just told the guy to die in a fire.

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Mac should have just told the guy to die in a fire.

Or just move.

Seriously, wow - that was some real heavy stuff in there.

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We all have our triggers, I say this again, if Mac is reading, you bring joy to me as a radio listener. You are both fun and funny.

I love the new midday show. Unlike the past one that was probably the worst show in the history of the score, this one is two imperfect people(who say it themselves) who have quality sports content and a fun time.


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Douchebag wrote:
Mac should have just told the guy to die in a fire.


yeah cuz that's so original and hurtful. You always have the worst 'insults'


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We all have our triggers, I say this again, if Mac is reading, you bring joy to me as a radio listener. You are both fun and funny.

I love the new midday show. Unlike the past one that was probably the worst show in the history of the score, this one is two imperfect people(who say it themselves) who have quality sports content and a fun time.

I appreciate the sentiment, but would like to update you on the dayparts of radio (times are rough estimates and show start and stops vary from station to station):
Morning Drive - 6AM to 10AM
Middays - 10AM to 3PM
Afternoon Drive - 3PM to 7PM
Evening - 7PM to Midnight
Overnights - Midnight to 6 AM

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MHSPBGLHLG wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Mac should have just told the guy to die in a fire.


yeah cuz that's so original and hurtful. You always have the worst 'insults'

Die in a fire.

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Its cool that when Mac's feelings get hurt, he finds a way to keep his name in the news and likely make some money off of it! (any publicity is good publicity)

Much more efficient than us slobs.

That's USA ALL-American resourcefulness, brother! :study: :money: 8)

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MHSPBGLHLG wrote:
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Mac should have just told the guy to die in a fire.


yeah cuz that's so original and hurtful. You always have the worst 'insults'

Die in a fire.

:lol: :lol:

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Its cool that when Mac's feelings get hurt, he finds a way to keep his name in the news and likely make some money off of it! (any publicity is good publicity)

Much more efficient than us slobs.

That's USA ALL-American resourcefulness, brother! :study: :money: 8)


Exactly

got Phil Rosenthal on speed dial,

the thing is, the article made no mention that Mac had mentioned his selections for dead pools, how many dead pools he had been in,
how he handicaps who will shuffle off this mortal coil- more hypocritical bullshit.

Mac can fuck off on this one, every family member of every selection that Mac ever made for a fucking dead pool was devastated when their loved
one died (whether or not they were famous means nothing, their age means nothing, its ok to belittle the grief of the Vincent Price family, but when it comes
to Mac town, cue the hand wringing, fuck that shit)

that was not included in the newspaper article, so hey Mac, normally I love ya, but what is good for the goose is good for the fucking gander here.
You want to talk about dead pools on the radio, but when that reticle of the old grim reaper sniper's rifle is pointed at you, it becomes a fucking
crisis of monumental proportions, spare me man.

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sabu, your hostility is misguided. I am not in a deadpool. Considered one this year (85 & over) but passed. More importantly, if I DID get in one, I sure as fuck wouldn't notify anybody I chose.


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sabu, your hostility is misguided. I am not in a deadpool. Considered one this year (85 & over) but passed. More importantly, if I DID get in one, I sure as fuck wouldn't notify anybody I chose.



85 and over deadpool? That's worse than no-check hockey!

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sabu, your hostility is misguided. I am not in a deadpool. Considered one this year (85 & over) but passed. More importantly, if I DID get in one, I sure as fuck wouldn't notify anybody I chose.


Mac, when's the last time you ate a pain pill?

Last time you attended a meeting?


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sabu, your hostility is misguided. I am not in a deadpool. Considered one this year (85 & over) but passed. More importantly, if I DID get in one, I sure as fuck wouldn't notify anybody I chose.


Mac, when's the last time you ate a pain pill?

Last time you attended a meeting?


Gloop, is that you?

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You seem a bit obsessed by my recovery, MHSPBGLHLG. Okay, I'll be your Huckleberry.

In September, I asked my golf buddy to grab a "couple helpers" from his wife's script. She had a knee. I had a back (and a shoulder) in addition to a biceps tendon I ruptured in August of '14. He gave me two 5 mg hydrocodone tabs (Vicodin).

I don't keep a script because I don't trust myself. "As needed" stopped applying to me around December of '07, two months after spinal fusion surgery. After that surgery, I took Norco 10 ("yellow birds" as I said). Had never had them before. Yeah, I had many Vicodin scripts of lower dosage over the years from a bunch of surgeries/injuries and I admit to occasionally added a couple to potentiate the effects of alcohol.

Never, however, had a met a pill that had such a dramatic effect as the Norco 10. The way they smelled. The sound of their shake in the bottle. It was Pavlovian. More than any substance I ever ingested. When I went into residential treatment in late '13, I realized I never, ever could have it again.

Had left knee replacement in Feb. of '16, and a laminectomy (back clean up near fusion) in Feb. of '17. Both times, I told the doc, no Norco.... low dosage Vic only. Both times, I set the vile next to my sink on the vanity and told Sheri to babysit me because I need it. Neither time did I exceed recommended dosage nor did I continue to refill after pain subsided. With the knee, I needed 'em up to about the six weeks mark in PT. With the back last winter, I didn't even finish the 30 5s that came with the initial script.

Some would say I shouldn't have done ANY of the above. I stopped worrying about what SOME say a long time ago.

Meetings? Not for me anymore. Haven't gone since shortly after I started the morning thing at the Drive, so what's that, Feb. or March of '15 I suppose. Got tired of a lot of it. They tell you "look for the similarities, not the differences." That's helpful but I grew tired of the 'YOU DID WHAT!!!!!????" reaction.

Bottoms are difference. I was lucky. My bottom was extreme withdrawal from things and most people. Didn't care to golf with buds anymore ('11, '12, '13). Lost my desire to go to games or travel. I REALLY didn't want to work (it included people and talking). Didn't really care much about intimacy with anybody but my wife and sons. I was content to become a complete recluse. Worth noting that in '11 and '12, I went off my psych meds without discussing with doctor.

Those meetings were valuable early, but some of the things I heard people talk about doing to their spouses, children, parents, friends, co-workers... I couldn't listen to it anymore. It became depressing. And meetings welcome newcomers... they have to because it's the right thing. Nothing more annoying than a 24-year-old addict with two weeks of sobriety who wants to hold forth on important issues because he now is an expert. Keep it.

I also believe in the stark honesty that is expected. I'm not a liar. I can proclaim retirement from LSD (9/84), mushrooms (6/86) cocaine (7/03) and acceptable "as needed" use of pain med since '13, but if I'm going to smoke ganj and have a couple bourbons or beers once in awhile, I'd feel like a hypocrite at meetings.

Still have a lot of contact with some "brothers & sisters" in the program... but I'm out on meetings.


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CLARIFICATION: I was the one having the "you did what?" reaction to others. Nobody said that to me. The war stories regularly led to me believe, most of these dudes are far more fucked up than I could ever be.


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Kudos to you Mac on your honesty and your recovery. I agree on meetings, great for some, but not everyone. Only you know what you can or can not tolerate to stay on your path. Keep fighting the good fight. You have a lot of reasons to do so.

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I really think there is a movie or at least a documentary in there about the beginning and golden age of the Score. That fuck Jeffery Baer has a doc for every insignificant Chicago story, meanwhile this is a great one waiting to be told. Have Bill Peterson voice it. It sounds like everyone but Terry was high as a kite.

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I have always HATED that bit since Parkins joined the station.

I really have no interest in other people's most embarrassing, awkward, worst moments of their private lives. I'm even less interested in the anonymous reactions on the Internet. If the bit was funny, I might feel differently. But I've never even been tempted to laugh when the segment was aired....just to change the station. More often than not -- especially since Parkins teamed up with MacNeil, it's just a weekly excuse for either of them, on the air, to essentially work into the conversation: "Yeah, I like to smoke pot." (Or "used to", in MacNeil's case). Good for them. I'd rather listen to Bernstein and McKnight ruminate on the best ways to eat cupcakes.


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It sounds like everyone but Terry was high as a kite.


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NO


That can be taken two ways

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