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I think this last episode drug on a little bit but I like all the tension they are building up and I am not trying to nitpick it to death and just enjoy
the ride they are taking me on. They haven't given out a ton of clues yet and hasn't reached the fever pitch that it was in Season 1. I don't really
expect it to but so far they have done great. No confusion in the time jumping and the makeup on old ass Hays is really good.

It's subjective on how long you want to be strung along. I've invested 3 hours and I have yet to find out who was convicted? We found out early this case has been a nightmare for Hays. Now he's having trouble remembering details of the nightmare. Call me crazy but that's making the storyline go backwards, not forward.

Episode 3, the story lost ground and Roland has a new haircut.

If we find out who was convicted, wouldn't that make the early storyline completely pointless?

Storyline 2 makes hiding the convicted seem pointless. I'd like a little info 1/3 of the way in. We don't know shit about anything. We're getting Twin Peaked.


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Storyline 2 makes hiding the convicted seem pointless. I'd like a little info 1/3 of the way in. We don't know shit about anything. We're getting Twin Peaked.

I feel like you want this show to be like some shitty CBS drama where you have all the answers spoon-fed to you.

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Storyline 2 makes hiding the convicted seem pointless. I'd like a little info 1/3 of the way in. We don't know shit about anything. We're getting Twin Peaked.

I feel like you want this show to be like some shitty CBS drama where you have all the answers spoon-fed to you.

That's seems silly. The answers will always be spoon fed to you. What's part of mystery dramas is the educated guesses from the viewer. I have a limp dick in my hand after 3 episodes. The proper criticism of me would be that I'm impatient. Guilty


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Just watched all 3 episodes. Love it. Damn, watching it makes me want to dig out my Zippo and go buy a pack of Kools.

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I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. I think it has many of the same problems as the second season while trying to mimic the beats of the first.

-The directing and the editing are unimaginative. Flat shots, predictable cuts. Nothing really draws you in.

-Like the second season, the tone is relentlessly morose. The occasional quip doesn't equate to levity.

-The shifting between timelines isn't handled well. I get it, its supposed to convey the confusion of an elderly man loosing his mind. Well, I'm as frustrated as he is. Each episode has like five shifts between three time periods. I don't have trouble keeping track, but the net effect is that you never feel grounded in any one era. Here's a scene where you get a note from the killer, here's a scene 10 years later where he loses his daughter at Walmart, here's a scene 20 years later where he's talking to a film crew about what went wrong. Then, back to the 80's where you get mounds of exposition about a new lead. It's just needlessly convoluted and kills the momentum of all three story lines. The first season shifted between time periods in an organic way that kept the plot moving, not so here.

-If you're going to spend a lot of time examining how crushing the loss of children can be to a family, you need to get to know the kids better. They're in one scene and all you know is that they're respectful of their father and call him 'sir' before they ride off. Everything else that you learn about them is indirect and clinical. If the girl shows up later as an adult there's no before to compare to the after.

-It's unclear why Hays is so affected by the case. He was in Special Forces in Vietnam, he's seen some shit, yet the unmutilated dead body of a child somehow leaves him wide eyed and permanently changed. Why?

-I'm not picking up on much chemistry between Hays and his wife or him and his partner (though Stephen Dorff is the best part of the show). Normally I'm a fan of Mahershala Ali and I can't tell if the problem lies with his performance or its just how the character is written. Further, most of the secondary characters are bland (his grown son makes me want to nap).

-Much of the narrative is a rehash of what we've already seen in the series: rural locale, buddy cops, strained personal lives, victimized children, lets go accost the pedophile, check in with the pastor, shifting between time periods, the corrupt elite guy, lets team up again, a hallucinating main character, STICK FIGURES, people drinking at bars, etc... The first season was already well worn genre territory, but it felt fresh. This doesn't.

I honestly think Nic Pizzolatto has a bit of a George Lucas thing going on. He breathed new life into some old tropes, thus igniting a creative spark that others ran with. You take away Harrison Ford, John Williams, and Irvin Kershner from George Lucas and you get the Star Wars prequels. You take away Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and Cary Joji Fukunaga from Nic Pizzolatto and you get seasons two and three of True Detective.

Maybe it will eventually come together, and in spite of it's faults its not bad, its just that somewhere during the fourth episode I shrugged and said, "So what?"

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Most people love it.

Sorry you don’t.

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I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. I think it has many of the same problems as the second season while trying to mimic the beats of the first.

-The directing and the editing are unimaginative. Flat shots, predictable cuts. Nothing really draws you in.

-Like the second season, the tone is relentlessly morose. The occasional quip doesn't equate to levity.

-The shifting between timelines isn't handled well. I get it, its supposed to convey the confusion of an elderly man loosing his mind. Well, I'm as frustrated as he is. Each episode has like five shifts between three time periods. I don't have trouble keeping track, but the net effect is that you never feel grounded in any one era. Here's a scene where you get a note from the killer, here's a scene 10 years later where he loses his daughter at Walmart, here's a scene 20 years later where he's talking to a film crew about what went wrong. Then, back to the 80's where you get mounds of exposition about a new lead. It's just needlessly convoluted and kills the momentum of all three story lines. The first season shifted between time periods in an organic way that kept the plot moving, not so here.

-If you're going to spend a lot of time examining how crushing the loss of children can be to a family, you need to get to know the kids better. They're in one scene and all you know is that they're respectful of their father and call him 'sir' before they ride off. Everything else that you learn about them is indirect and clinical. If the girl shows up later as an adult there's no before to compare to the after.

-It's unclear why Hays is so affected by the case. He was in Special Forces in Vietnam, he's seen some shit, yet the unmutilated dead body of a child somehow leaves him wide eyed and permanently changed. Why?

-I'm not picking up on much chemistry between Hays and his wife or him his partner (though Stephen Dorff is the best part of the show). Normally I'm a fan of Mahershala Ali and I can't tell if the problem lies with his performance or its just how the character is written. Further, most of the secondary characters are bland (his grown son makes me want to nap).

-Much of the narrative is a rehash of what we've already seen in the series: rural locale, buddy cops, strained personal lives, victimized children, lets go accost the pedophile, check in with the pastor, shifting between time periods, the corrupt elite guy, lets team up again, a hallucinating main character, STICK FIGURES, people drinking at bars, etc... The first season was already well worn genre territory, but it felt fresh. This doesn't.

I honestly think Nic Pizzolatto has a bit a George Lucas thing going on. He breathed new life into some old tropes, thus igniting a creative spark that others ran with. You take away Harrison Ford, John Williams, and Irvin Kershner from George Lucas and you get the Star Wars prequels. You take away Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and Cary Joji Fukunaga from Nic Pizzolatto and you get seasons two and three of True Detective.

Maybe it will eventually come together, and in spite of it's faults its not bad, its just that somewhere during the fourth episode I shrugged and said, "So what?"

Like my old coach said, "Do something! Even if it's wrong." The microbits of information is bad enough. The microbits from 3 timelines makes it triply worse. It was an extremely disappointing Ep4, I haven't seen 5 yet, but if they don't get on the stick, I'm gone. I won't make the same mistake that I made with S2.


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There are 4 episodes left.

Do you think they aren’t going to explain everything?

Season 1 was extremely slow up until the last few episodes as well, but you got to see Alexandra Daddarrio naked. That kept you around for the remaining episodes hoping to see more of her glorious breasts.

Sorry you haven’t seen breasts like that this season.

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Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm too dumb to get Pizzo's art. Oh well, I'll watch 5 tonight anyway.


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Not saying dumb.

You’re just admittedly impatient.

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Not saying dumb.

You’re just admittedly impatient.

You're right. I'm even an episode ahead of myself. Watching 4 tonight


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I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. I think it has many of the same problems as the second season while trying to mimic the beats of the first.

-The directing and the editing are unimaginative. Flat shots, predictable cuts. Nothing really draws you in.

-Like the second season, the tone is relentlessly morose. The occasional quip doesn't equate to levity.

-The shifting between timelines isn't handled well. I get it, its supposed to convey the confusion of an elderly man loosing his mind. Well, I'm as frustrated as he is. Each episode has like five shifts between three time periods. I don't have trouble keeping track, but the net effect is that you never feel grounded in any one era. Here's a scene where you get a note from the killer, here's a scene 10 years later where he loses his daughter at Walmart, here's a scene 20 years later where he's talking to a film crew about what went wrong. Then, back to the 80's where you get mounds of exposition about a new lead. It's just needlessly convoluted and kills the momentum of all three story lines. The first season shifted between time periods in an organic way that kept the plot moving, not so here.

-If you're going to spend a lot of time examining how crushing the loss of children can be to a family, you need to get to know the kids better. They're in one scene and all you know is that they're respectful of their father and call him 'sir' before they ride off. Everything else that you learn about them is indirect and clinical. If the girl shows up later as an adult there's no before to compare to the after.

-It's unclear why Hays is so affected by the case. He was in Special Forces in Vietnam, he's seen some shit, yet the unmutilated dead body of a child somehow leaves him wide eyed and permanently changed. Why?

-I'm not picking up on much chemistry between Hays and his wife or him and his partner (though Stephen Dorff is the best part of the show). Normally I'm a fan of Mahershala Ali and I can't tell if the problem lies with his performance or its just how the character is written. Further, most of the secondary characters are bland (his grown son makes me want to nap).

-Much of the narrative is a rehash of what we've already seen in the series: rural locale, buddy cops, strained personal lives, victimized children, lets go accost the pedophile, check in with the pastor, shifting between time periods, the corrupt elite guy, lets team up again, a hallucinating main character, STICK FIGURES, people drinking at bars, etc... The first season was already well worn genre territory, but it felt fresh. This doesn't.

I honestly think Nic Pizzolatto has a bit of a George Lucas thing going on. He breathed new life into some old tropes, thus igniting a creative spark that others ran with. You take away Harrison Ford, John Williams, and Irvin Kershner from George Lucas and you get the Star Wars prequels. You take away Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and Cary Joji Fukunaga from Nic Pizzolatto and you get seasons two and three of True Detective.

Maybe it will eventually come together, and in spite of it's faults its not bad, its just that somewhere during the fourth episode I shrugged and said, "So what?"

Spot-on.

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True Detective will be fine

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Jbi11s wrote:
True Detective will be fine

Kong showed his huge television review dong with that perfectly accurate post.

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Panther pislA wrote:
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True Detective will be fine

Kong showed his huge television review dong with that perfectly accurate post.

You are probably Major Kong and Nardi, so the level of crazy here would appear to be top shelf.

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True Detective will be fine

Kong showed his huge television review dong with that perfectly accurate post.

You are probably Major Kong and Nardi, so the level of crazy here would appear to be top shelf.

I would be impressed if I were that good.

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MANY agree the show is that good.

I would concede the directing hasn’t been as great the last two episodes since they don’t have the same guy doing the job, but the story is still great.

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I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. I think it has many of the same problems as the second season while trying to mimic the beats of the first.

-The directing and the editing are unimaginative. Flat shots, predictable cuts. Nothing really draws you in.

-Like the second season, the tone is relentlessly morose. The occasional quip doesn't equate to levity.

-The shifting between timelines isn't handled well. I get it, its supposed to convey the confusion of an elderly man loosing his mind. Well, I'm as frustrated as he is. Each episode has like five shifts between three time periods. I don't have trouble keeping track, but the net effect is that you never feel grounded in any one era. Here's a scene where you get a note from the killer, here's a scene 10 years later where he loses his daughter at Walmart, here's a scene 20 years later where he's talking to a film crew about what went wrong. Then, back to the 80's where you get mounds of exposition about a new lead. It's just needlessly convoluted and kills the momentum of all three story lines. The first season shifted between time periods in an organic way that kept the plot moving, not so here.

-If you're going to spend a lot of time examining how crushing the loss of children can be to a family, you need to get to know the kids better. They're in one scene and all you know is that they're respectful of their father and call him 'sir' before they ride off. Everything else that you learn about them is indirect and clinical. If the girl shows up later as an adult there's no before to compare to the after.

-It's unclear why Hays is so affected by the case. He was in Special Forces in Vietnam, he's seen some shit, yet the unmutilated dead body of a child somehow leaves him wide eyed and permanently changed. Why?

-I'm not picking up on much chemistry between Hays and his wife or him and his partner (though Stephen Dorff is the best part of the show). Normally I'm a fan of Mahershala Ali and I can't tell if the problem lies with his performance or its just how the character is written. Further, most of the secondary characters are bland (his grown son makes me want to nap).

-Much of the narrative is a rehash of what we've already seen in the series: rural locale, buddy cops, strained personal lives, victimized children, lets go accost the pedophile, check in with the pastor, shifting between time periods, the corrupt elite guy, lets team up again, a hallucinating main character, STICK FIGURES, people drinking at bars, etc... The first season was already well worn genre territory, but it felt fresh. This doesn't.

I honestly think Nic Pizzolatto has a bit of a George Lucas thing going on. He breathed new life into some old tropes, thus igniting a creative spark that others ran with. You take away Harrison Ford, John Williams, and Irvin Kershner from George Lucas and you get the Star Wars prequels. You take away Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and Cary Joji Fukunaga from Nic Pizzolatto and you get seasons two and three of True Detective.

Maybe it will eventually come together, and in spite of it's faults its not bad, its just that somewhere during the fourth episode I shrugged and said, "So what?"




Very well said, it's nowhere close to season one but better than that abortion in season two. This guy is a one trick pony, write some new material. Woody n MM bailed his ass out season one with outstanding acting.

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Still like it through four episodes. Again, not quite as good as S1, but light-years better than (at least what little I watched of) S2. I still remember that bar scene from either the first or second episode of S2, when I LOL’ed at the ridiculousness of it - it was like a low-grade David Lynch wannabe with the cliched dour song from the dour singer, and the seedy dive atmosphere. It was THAT scene that made me bail on the rest of it.

S3 is good, and I think Ali’s performance has been great, if a bit one-note.

I also have a feeling that Daddy Purcell, while not being involved in his son’s murder and daughter’s disappearance, had something else going on with regards to the daughter - the uncle storyline could very well be a swerve, especially when they revealed his skeletal remains were found later.

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Episode 4 has been the least exciting episode of season 3. They shouldnt have fucked with the Nam dude.


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Still like it through four episodes. Again, not quite as good as S1, but light-years better than (at least what little I watched of) S2. I still remember that bar scene from either the first or second episode of S2, when I LOL’ed at the ridiculousness of it - it was like a low-grade David Lynch wannabe with the cliched dour song from the dour singer, and the seedy dive atmosphere. It was THAT scene that made me bail on the rest of it.

S3 is good, and I think Ali’s performance has been great, if a bit one-note.

I also have a feeling that Daddy Purcell, while not being involved in his son’s murder and daughter’s disappearance, had something else going on with regards to the daughter - the uncle storyline could very well be a swerve, especially when they revealed his skeletal remains were found later.


The daughter is offing everyone that was using her sexually. The brother. The uncle. The mom.


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Minooka Meatball wrote:
Still like it through four episodes. Again, not quite as good as S1, but light-years better than (at least what little I watched of) S2. I still remember that bar scene from either the first or second episode of S2, when I LOL’ed at the ridiculousness of it - it was like a low-grade David Lynch wannabe with the cliched dour song from the dour singer, and the seedy dive atmosphere. It was THAT scene that made me bail on the rest of it.

S3 is good, and I think Ali’s performance has been great, if a bit one-note.

I also have a feeling that Daddy Purcell, while not being involved in his son’s murder and daughter’s disappearance, had something else going on with regards to the daughter - the uncle storyline could very well be a swerve, especially when they revealed his skeletal remains were found later.


The daughter is offing everyone that was using her sexually. The brother. The uncle. The mom.


No, Sharp Objects was on this summer.

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Minooka Meatball wrote:
Still like it through four episodes. Again, not quite as good as S1, but light-years better than (at least what little I watched of) S2. I still remember that bar scene from either the first or second episode of S2, when I LOL’ed at the ridiculousness of it - it was like a low-grade David Lynch wannabe with the cliched dour song from the dour singer, and the seedy dive atmosphere. It was THAT scene that made me bail on the rest of it.

S3 is good, and I think Ali’s performance has been great, if a bit one-note.

I also have a feeling that Daddy Purcell, while not being involved in his son’s murder and daughter’s disappearance, had something else going on with regards to the daughter - the uncle storyline could very well be a swerve, especially when they revealed his skeletal remains were found later.


The daughter is offing everyone that was using her sexually. The brother. The uncle. The mom.


No, Sharp Objects was on this summer.


Plus, she’s one the run from the leadership of the sex ring which uses the church as a front.


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He was in Special Forces in Vietnam, he's seen some shit,


Are we sure about that? I wanna see his DD214. HOO-AH!

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He was in Special Forces in Vietnam, he's seen some shit,


Are we sure about that? I wanna see his DD214. HOO-AH!


Yes, sir. Right away, sir.

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I'm still enjoying it just fine. Could it move a little quicker? Sure. Maybe I am giving it some leeway because I remember how bad season 2 was and
I WANT this to be good. I noticed the pronounced limp from Hays partner from the 90s so I am guessing something happens soon from the 80s to maybe
give him that limp. Interested to see the fallout from the explosion ending the last episode. I would tend to agree that there is something odd about Hays relationship with his wife and of course I want to know what happens to her as well. I know they are going to tie up all these loose ends in the last few episodes and hopefully make this something great.

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Minooka Meatball wrote:
Still like it through four episodes. Again, not quite as good as S1, but light-years better than (at least what little I watched of) S2. I still remember that bar scene from either the first or second episode of S2, when I LOL’ed at the ridiculousness of it - it was like a low-grade David Lynch wannabe with the cliched dour song from the dour singer, and the seedy dive atmosphere. It was THAT scene that made me bail on the rest of it.

S3 is good, and I think Ali’s performance has been great, if a bit one-note.

I also have a feeling that Daddy Purcell, while not being involved in his son’s murder and daughter’s disappearance, had something else going on with regards to the daughter - the uncle storyline could very well be a swerve, especially when they revealed his skeletal remains were found later.


The daughter is offing everyone that was using her sexually. The brother. The uncle. The mom.


Hmmm...didn't think of that, but with her age and timeline that would be a bit of a stretch - unless she had help. I mean, I believe she was what - 10-12 when she disappeared? Her mom was found dead in Vegas two years later of an OD, so I can't see the daughter having anything to do with that.

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Julie was 10 in 1980

Her mom died in 1988

Idk about BC’s theory, but he’s either spitballing or just ruined the show for us.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:14 am 
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Jbi11s wrote:
Julie was 10 in 1980

Her mom died in 1988

Idk about BC’s theory, but he’s either spitballing or just ruined the show for us.


Have they established that timeline #2 is 1990? I thought it was later in the '80s.

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