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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:08 am 
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They can support whomever they want. I'm just saying don't stick you head in the sand over it. I heard on the Score this morning that Todd Ricketts is the or one of the biggest Trump fundraisers in IL.


This is the thing that keeps getting lost in the conversation. I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team. However, we still have dull witted Todd sitting there in board meetings and involved in day to day operations receiving and frequently responding to his father's e-mails.

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They can support whomever they want. I'm just saying don't stick you head in the sand over it. I heard on the Score this morning that Todd Ricketts is the or one of the biggest Trump fundraisers in IL.


This is the thing that keeps getting lost in the conversation. I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team. However, we still have dull witted Todd sitting there in board meetings and involved in day to day operations receiving and frequently responding to his father's e-mails.



Something tells me, the light is on but no one is home with Todd.


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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

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What do you guys think should happen?


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As a Sox fan, I appreciated the 2006 World Series as well :D



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Question, if you took all of Daddy Rickett's emails, and did a CTRL+H and replaced "Muslim" with "Christian", do you think there would be as big of an outrage?
Nope
What would you replace in the emails where Daddy Rickets laughed at Mexicans and people on welfare? Some of these he even forwarded to his children.

The guy is a bigot, supports Trump, and will likely be using the far right Sinclair broadcasting for the Cubs network. If you're ok with the Cubs money and ownership being just a few steps shy or Marge Schott, thats fine. Just don't deny it or minimize it like you did in the above posts.

:lol: :lol:

ok with? You're talking to badrogue. He's never been a bigger Cub fan than he currently is.

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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?

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What do you guys think should happen?


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What do you guys think should happen?

Contraction is the only morally right answer imo.

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What do you guys think should happen?

Contraction is the only morally right answer imo.

Hmm, where would I take my talents as a fan?


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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?



Being private emails that were leaked, nothing. If he were doing this in interviews or whatever, MLB should force him to sell.


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Hmm, where would I take my talents as a fan?
to THE VEGAS/NORTH DAKOTA white sox?!?!?!111



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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?
You're either OK supporting a bigot and a racist running your team, or you're not. There isn't a middle ground.

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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?



Being private emails that were leaked, nothing. If he were doing this in interviews or whatever, MLB should force him to sell.

He's not the owner though.

And if he were, what's to stop him from selling to Tom? You going to ban the entire extended family?


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Are we sure Joe Ricketts isn't secretly a Sox fan?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hmm, where would I take my talents as a fan?
to THE VEGAS/NORTH DAKOTA white sox?!?!?!111



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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?
You're either OK supporting a bigot and a racist running your team, or you're not. There isn't a middle ground.

Theo and Jed run the team.

Joe, at most, runs the part of the organization I dont really care about.

And if you think the White Sox entire staff is free of racists, then I have a bridge in Canaryville to sell you


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You're either OK supporting a bigot and a racist running your team, or you're not. There isn't a middle ground.


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Could be the CFMB version of landing Machado if we can swing rpb over to the Sox. Let’s see how ethical he is

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hmm, where would I take my talents as a fan?
to THE VEGAS/NORTH DAKOTA white sox?!?!?!111



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Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?
You're either OK supporting a bigot and a racist running your team, or you're not. There isn't a middle ground.

I’m thankful his racism and bigotry didn’t give Heyward 250 million for sure .

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Cashman wrote:
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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?



Being private emails that were leaked, nothing. If he were doing this in interviews or whatever, MLB should force him to sell.


We've been over this before, the above is a ridiculous position.

If a guy is a bigot in public, it's a problem, but if a guy is a bigot in private that is OK?

That doesn't make any sense, the problem isn't the why or how of the exposure of Dad Ricketts being a bigot, the problem is that he's a bigot.


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And if he were, what's to stop him from selling to Tom? You going to ban the entire extended family?



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And if you think the White Sox entire staff is free of racists, then I have a bridge in Canaryville to sell you
What do the White Sox have to do with the Cubs moneyman being a racist?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:11 am 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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And if you think the White Sox entire staff is free of racists, then I have a bridge in Canaryville to sell you
What do the White Sox have to do with the Cubs moneyman being a racist?

Well, you appear to be taking the stance that you could never support an organization if the organization had someone working for them with bigoted views. Is that what you are saying?


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"Someone" working for them could be a hotdog vendor.

The man who put up the money up to buy the team having these sorts of views is completely different. Don't be obtuse.

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"Someone" working for them could be a hotdog vendor.

The man who put up the money up to buy the team having these sorts of views is completely different. Don't be obtuse.

Im not being obtuse. What is the cut off for bigoted people not mattering?

Not vendors? Ok.

How about ambassadors? Announcers? Accountants?


Also, what if bigoted emails from JERRY came out today? What would you do?


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If you want to think he's a bigot or whatever else, fine. But why include that he supports Trump? This is the part that gets me. Is someone not allowed to have political affiliations anymore?


Do you think someone is a bigot who says "All black people are my enemy"? Yes or No.

Do you think someone is a bigot who says "All Australians are my enemy"? Yes or No.

Do you think someone is a bigot who says "All Catholics are my enemy"? Yes or No.

Do you think someone is a bigot who says "All Muslims are my enemy"? Yes or No.

People who "want" to think Dad Ricketts is a bigot are probably people that (a) understand the functional definition of the word bigot, and (b) understand what Dad Ricketts has written about people of backgrounds and cultures different that his own background and culture.


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What do you guys think should happen?
I think the Cubs should send a strong message and ban Joe Ricketts from Wrigley Field for a year.

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What do you guys think should happen?
I think the Cubs should send a strong message and ban Joe Ricketts from Wrigley Field for a year.

Im on board with that.

Further more, he should have to call Barack Obama and apologize.


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Also, what if bigoted emails from JERRY came out today? What would you do?

I'd still root for him to die like I have been for about 3 years.

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nothing

I think the Cubs have some amends to make as an organization but nothing should be done by the league

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I'll go along with the dissonance that despite Joe Ricketts spending $900 million of his money to buy his kids a team he has absolutely no involvement with the team.
I think this is bullshit too. Sure he likely isn't involved in roster moves or coaches or whatever, but I do not believe for a second that Joe is not involved in the actual business aspect of the Cubs.

Ok Frank . Joe Ricketts is involved in the day to day business operation of the Cubs. Now what ?



Being private emails that were leaked, nothing. If he were doing this in interviews or whatever, MLB should force him to sell.


We've been over this before, the above is a ridiculous position.

If a guy is a bigot in public, it's a problem, but if a guy is a bigot in private that is OK?

That doesn't make any sense, the problem isn't the why or how of the exposure of Dad Ricketts being a bigot, the problem is that he's a bigot.
well there should certainly be plenty of examples where his horrible bigotry has manifested itself in regards to employment then . Let’s find some and after we do , can we also find places of employment where racists and bigots are allowed to earn a living after their private emails are made public ?

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